Re: [PD] s~ & r~ with block size other than 64?

2016-02-27 Thread Matt Barber
Can you point to an example of this? I don't think it would work for partitioned convolutions, e.g. for reverb, where we need the linear convolution. I was always asking myself why FFT convolution in Pd is usally done without zero-padding and with a sqared hann-window. theoretically, ommiting

Re: [PD] s~ & r~ with block size other than 64?

2016-02-27 Thread Christof Ressi
I was always asking myself why FFT convolution in Pd is usally done without zero-padding and with a sqared hann-window. theoretically, ommiting zero-padding leads to circular convolution, but the squared hann-window seems to prevent audible artifacts. However, having less delay using your

Re: [PD] multi-language help patches

2016-02-27 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Of course if we`re gonna use wikipedia.org as storage for encoded html information of a software we should tell them about it an ask for their permission. Probably they say no. So we will be looking for another server. But... Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. From:

Re: [PD] How to check if a patch is vanilla

2016-02-27 Thread Jack
+1 Yep, with : $ pd -noprefs -verbose... seems the way to go. ++ Jack Le 27/02/2016 16:35, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : > On 02/27/2016 12:05 PM, Alessio Degani via Pd-list wrote: >> Is there a simple way to chek if a pd patch is made only using vanilla >> object? > > as in: install

Re: [PD] multi-language help patches

2016-02-27 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Eventually the user can make his particularly language translated patch: Or it can be obteined with some href and an Id, not sure if its posible: pd_obj...@wikipedia.org #N canvas 20 43 698 447 12; #X floatatom 524 338 0 0 0; #X floatatom 353 338 0 0 0; #X floatatom 298 338 0

Re: [PD] what's the deal with [utime] object?

2016-02-27 Thread Jack
Le 27/02/2016 17:31, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : > On 02/27/2016 04:49 PM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: >>> we should have switched to doubles long ago. >> According to katja, that would trigger a zombie apocalypse in external land. >> > > first of all, we should have switched to

Re: [PD] multi-language help patches

2016-02-27 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Probably an html server can provide both things, the html help AND the translated patch in the same url. Whats important is that in can be completed/translated by users. Wikipedia is the most familiar one to almost everyone. (perhaps I'm wrong here, not sure) Mensaje telepatico asistido por

Re: [PD] s~ & r~ with block size other than 64?

2016-02-27 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
by the way, partconv~ is buggy, we should fix it... I emailed bsaylor a couple of years ago and he said he didnt have time for it 2016-02-27 16:16 GMT-03:00 Matt Barber : > No, I have one in the works. I had to take some months off to write a > piano concerto, but once this

Re: [PD] multi-language help patches

2016-02-27 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
There are chances that we`re welcome at wikipedia. Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. From: lucard...@hotmail.com To: pd-list@lists.iem.at Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:18:01 + Subject: Re: [PD] multi-language help patches Of course if we`re gonna use wikipedia.org as storage for

Re: [PD] what's the deal with [utime] object?

2016-02-27 Thread Jack
Le 27/02/2016 16:49, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list a écrit : >> we should have switched to doubles long ago. > > According to katja, that would trigger a zombie apocalypse in external > land. > And the only way to tell the zombies from the survivors would be to... > *gulp*... > > actually read

Re: [PD] multi-language help patches

2016-02-27 Thread Esteban Viveros
Portuguese translation of help patches are guaranteed! :) Em sáb, 27 de fev de 2016 19:07, Lucas Cordiviola escreveu: > Probably an html server can provide both things, the html help AND the > translated patch in the same url. > > > Whats important is that in can be

[PD] How to check if a patch is vanilla

2016-02-27 Thread Alessio Degani via Pd-list
Hi list, I think that this question was already pointed out in this list, but I can't find it anymore. Is there a simple way to chek if a pd patch is made only using vanilla object? Or: Is there a way to find which external lib are needed for a given patch? A possible solution is to keep a

Re: [PD] s~ & r~ with block size other than 64?

2016-02-27 Thread Christof Ressi
my guess for your last question: no overlap: [tabsend~] is now at blocksize 128 and [tabrecieve~] at blocksize 64. Every other block, [tabsend~] is still busy filling the rest of the table while [tabreceive~] is reading the last 64 samples a second time (since the table couldn't been updated

Re: [PD] what's the deal with [utime] object?

2016-02-27 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 02/27/2016 12:34 AM, s p wrote: > Hi! > > I am trying to use [utime] to get an absolute date in seconds since epoch. > However, the number of seconds seems to be rounded, so I don't understand > how is it of any use!? For example, the following patch prints 0 ... > short answer: single

Re: [PD] what's the deal with [utime] object?

2016-02-27 Thread s p
Yes, I guessed the issue was with precision, but in that case why would anyone want to use it? I was about to use [zexy/time], but [utime] would have been so much simpler in my case ... On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 10:23 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > On 02/27/2016 12:34 AM, s p

Re: [PD] what's the deal with [utime] object?

2016-02-27 Thread William Huston
I really wish Pd had a 32 bit integer data type for counters, and other places where integers are appropriate. This problem with single precision floats is my #1 gripe/ buzz-killer (but overall, I am very, very happy with Pd!) e.g. I spent aa few hours with it, but was unable to master the

Re: [PD] what's the deal with [utime] object?

2016-02-27 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 02/27/2016 09:55 AM, William Huston wrote: > I really wish Pd had a 32 bit integer data type for counters, and other > places where integers are appropriate. actually i strongly disagree: i think it is one of Pd's killer features to have a single numeric type. the only problem is that the

Re: [PD] s~ & r~ with block size other than 64?

2016-02-27 Thread Matt Barber
> > > > > It would allow you to do things like partitioned convolution without any > delay, since the convolution of two 64-sample windows fills a 128-sample > window. > > sounds more like the classic overlap-add-method. can you explain more? > > > ​OK, forget partitioning and imagine that your

Re: [PD] How to check if a patch is vanilla

2016-02-27 Thread Alessio Degani via Pd-list
On 27/02/2016 13:12, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: On 27/02/16 11:05, Alessio Degani via Pd-list wrote: Hi list, I think that this question was already pointed out in this list, but I can't find it anymore. Is there a simple way to chek if a pd patch is made only using vanilla object? Or: Is

Re: [PD] multi-language help patches

2016-02-27 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 02/27/2016 03:21 AM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: > link which points to http://wiki.puredata.info/en/osc~ that don't exist yet. well, given that pdpedia died a couple of years ago, the "yet" is slightly euphemistic. gfmards IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [PD] what's the deal with [utime] object?

2016-02-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> we should have switched to doubles long ago. According to katja, that would trigger a zombie apocalypse in external land.  And the only way to tell the zombies from the survivors would be to... *gulp*... actually read external library code. Personally, I'd rather get eaten by a zombie than do

Re: [PD] what's the deal with [utime] object?

2016-02-27 Thread Matt Barber
It would change some pretty major things in vanilla, too. For instance, [phasor~], [osc~], and [tabosc4~] all depend on a bit-manipulation trick to wrap phase, which won't work with doubles. I'm not sure if the output is any different, but it does save the per-sample bounds check and is

Re: [PD] multi-language help patches

2016-02-27 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Sorry, I didn`t know it lived in the past, never use it. Could we use wikipedia for that and somehow guarantee longevity, ease of use for the community, and multilingual html help files? Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. To: pd-list@lists.iem.at From: zmoel...@iem.at Date: Sat, 27 Feb

Re: [PD] what's the deal with [utime] object?

2016-02-27 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 02/27/2016 04:49 PM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: >> we should have switched to doubles long ago. > According to katja, that would trigger a zombie apocalypse in external land. first of all, we should have switched to doubles *long* ago. > And the only way to tell the zombies from the

Re: [PD] what's the deal with [utime] object?

2016-02-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> hmm, what again was wrong with my proposal to distinguish between single and double precision externals, allowing to have externals that would work on both precisions ("phat")? The problem I'm describing is how to distinguish between the externals with t_float=double that work as they should,

[PD] dekken is GREAT

2016-02-27 Thread Peter Nyboer
Thanks so much for that! I’ve been enjoying its fruits recently. Peter ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] what's the deal with [utime] object?

2016-02-27 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 02/27/2016 09:40 AM, s p wrote: > Yes, I guessed the issue was with precision, but in that case why would > anyone want to use it? [utime]? i have no idea. what's worse: i have no clue why anyone would *write* that object with the given limitations of a single precision Pd. gmasrd IOhannes

Re: [PD] multi-language help patches

2016-02-27 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
Sorry, I didn`t know it lived in the past, never use it. Could we use wikipedia for that and somehow guarantee longevity, ease of use for the community, and multilingual html help files? Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. To: pd-list@lists.iem.at From: zmoel...@iem.at Date: Sat, 27 Feb

Re: [PD] multi-language help patches

2016-02-27 Thread Esteban Viveros
Yes... These way seems to some 99% of the auto learning issues about help translations... Much more I can imagine before this thread.. Em sáb, 27 de fev de 2016 15:13, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list < pd-list@lists.iem.at> escreveu: > > I feel one of the best aspects of PD are the examples via help

Re: [PD] s~ & r~ with block size other than 64?

2016-02-27 Thread Matt Barber
No, I have one in the works. I had to take some months off to write a piano concerto, but once this is done I can get back to it and show you. It won't be quite as quick as [partconv~] (and even [partconv~] used naïvely isn't nearly as quick as [partconv~] used well). On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 2:10

Re: [PD] multi-language help patches

2016-02-27 Thread Esteban Viveros
Em sáb, 27 de fev de 2016 15:46, Lucas Cordiviola escreveu: > As an sketch: > > > pd nameoftheobject @wikipedia.org > > > pd osc~ or with the underscore pd_osc~ > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/pd_osc~ > > > It will be slow to fill objects but... > > > > > I feel one of