Re: [PD] consolidate backward- and MaxMSP compatibility in Cyclone (was: Purpose of Cyclone)

2015-12-23 Thread katja
On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 4:44 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote: > What about versioning? If people *have* to have older compatibility, then > why can’t they just run an older version of cyclone? Newer development can > take place on the current version and you can clearly note api >

Re: [PD] consolidate backward- and MaxMSP compatibility in Cyclone (was: Purpose of Cyclone)

2015-12-23 Thread Dan Wilcox
Oh I know. It just seems a shame to say: "Well, somebody might have a patch somewhere from 10 years ago that relies on a 10 year old version of a library that mimics a 10 year old version of Max running on a 10+ year old computer/os and we can't break that, ever." For vanilla objects yeah, I

Re: [PD] consolidate backward- and MaxMSP compatibility in Cyclone (was: Purpose of Cyclone)

2015-12-23 Thread Dan Wilcox
> On Dec 23, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > I’d make an abstraction wrapper around [count~] that filtered out the set > message Hah. never mind. I forgot PD chooses compiled objects over abstractions so you can’t do what I suggested anyway. Teach me to type

Re: [PD] consolidate backward- and MaxMSP compatibility in Cyclone (was: Purpose of Cyclone)

2015-12-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
> > Hah. never mind. I forgot PD chooses compiled objects over abstractions so > you can’t do what I suggested anyway. Teach me to type before following my > own advice and “test it”. > you can still give warnings, if that's the case; but this seems like a digression. Not sure if I get what katja

[PD] Sending [color $1( or [size $1( type messages to objects

2015-12-23 Thread William Huston
Hi -- 1: Is the technique of setting object attributes via messages documented anywhere? (x2.html has most things, but I don't see this.) 2: Is there a list of all the standard objects, and the names of all attributes (methods) which are settable via messages? (A language specification or

Re: [PD] Sending [color $1( or [size $1( type messages to objects

2015-12-23 Thread Martin Peach
On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 8:08 PM, William Huston wrote: > Hi -- > > 1: Is the technique of setting object attributes via messages documented > anywhere? > > Probably in the source code... > ... > > 5: I would prefer to set an object's color via an RGB value > Can I

Re: [PD] consolidate backward- and MaxMSP compatibility in Cyclone (was: Purpose of Cyclone)

2015-12-23 Thread katja
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Well, newer patches with newer functionalities not working in older versions > is how things go anyway, right? Vanilla 0-46 patches don't run in 0.45 and > so on... there's no way around that I guess. Right, in