Re: [PD] GEM for OSX

[Dan Wilcox]

GEM is not “dying away.”

There is always maintenance issues, but the main problem right now is related 
to not having working video playback and recording on macOS versions > 10.11, 
while the OpenGL functionality works fine.

It’s based on OpenGL and works on all desktop platforms until OpenGL does not 
(whenever they figure out to adopt Vulkan/Metal or whatever). 

> On Apr 11, 2017, at 1:53 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm no GEM user, but I know people love it and use it, it'd be really sad to 
> see it dying away - I agree it needs love and attention.


Dan Wilcox
@danomatika 
danomatika.com 
robotcowboy.com 



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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[Lucas Cordiviola]

>Which software do you use in the screenshot?

Hi Jonghyun,

We don't have the screenshot but most likely he was using:

http://www.dependencywalker.com/



Salutti,
Lucarda.




Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.



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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 6:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

Thanks Rolf for the clue. Which software do you use in the screenshot? is it 
like DLL checker?

Jonghyun

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:09 AM, > wrote:
Roman wrote:

Just in case nobody more knowledgeable chimes in. Pd found the
approrpiate file: Gem.dll, but it still didn't load it. This probably
means that Gem.dll is dynamically linked to other libraries that can't
be found. You might get a hint when opening Gem.dll in a tool like
DependencyWalker or similar. It hopefully shows you which other dll is
missing or not found.

thanks Roman.
running DependencyWalker gives a lot of yellow warnings and a red one in the 
dep.tree.

and in the log window:

Error: At least one required implicit or forwarded dependency was not found.
Error: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing export 
function in an implicitly dependent module.
Warning: At least one delay-load dependency module was not found.
Warning: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing export 
function in a delay-load dependent module.

attached are 2 png's which show 2 items i think could be causing the problem:
-msvcrt.dll which appears to generate one or both of the above mentioned errors.
-msvcr71.dll; in pd/bin exists msvcr90.dll.

any hints how to proceed?

rolf


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Re: [PD] GEM for OSX

[Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list]

> your best hope is to expect Gem in Purr Data sometime soon
Gem works under Windows and Gnu/Linux, but not under OSX.

> I'm copying jonathan here to see if he can tell us something about it, 
> apparently matt was working on a way to compile it (copied too)
Sorry, aside from a stop-gap to get an old version of Gem building under 
Windows I have 
no experience developing Gem.

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Re: [PD] Deken : Install externals with a list (Py Fave)

[Jonghyun Kim]

Thanks Rolf for the clue. Which software do you use in the screenshot? is
it like DLL checker?

Jonghyun

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:09 AM,  wrote:

> Roman wrote:
>
> Just in case nobody more knowledgeable chimes in. Pd found the
>> approrpiate file: Gem.dll, but it still didn't load it. This probably
>> means that Gem.dll is dynamically linked to other libraries that can't
>> be found. You might get a hint when opening Gem.dll in a tool like
>> DependencyWalker or similar. It hopefully shows you which other dll is
>> missing or not found.
>>
>
> thanks Roman.
> running DependencyWalker gives a lot of yellow warnings and a red one in
> the dep.tree.
>
> and in the log window:
>
> Error: At least one required implicit or forwarded dependency was not
> found.
> Error: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing
> export function in an implicitly dependent module.
> Warning: At least one delay-load dependency module was not found.
> Warning: At least one module has an unresolved import due to a missing
> export function in a delay-load dependent module.
>
> attached are 2 png's which show 2 items i think could be causing the
> problem:
> -msvcrt.dll which appears to generate one or both of the above mentioned
> errors.
> -msvcr71.dll; in pd/bin exists msvcr90.dll.
>
> any hints how to proceed?
>
> rolf
>
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Re: [PD] GEM for OSX

[me.grimm]

for osx contributions are needed (devs, testers, etc).

so if interested in helping first try this:
https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/wiki/How-to-build-Gem-on-MacOSX-Mavericks

if this doesn't work update instructions ... dont delete :)

then open issues when compiling:
https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/issues

better yet help to fix issues if can

maybe if more of us are working on it more will be motivated. right now it
seems a lot is left in johannes court... maybe too much?

also maybe there are facebook group peeps interested in contributions that
dont read mailing list? seems like a lot is going on there

but maybe methods of organization for project updates need adjusting.

>> is it just a lack of time / motivation that prevent releasing?

maybe just time




On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres 
wrote:

> "So, is there something that need to be done before creating a new
> release? is it just a lack of time / motivation that prevent releasing? or
> just that Gem is now only for linux? What could be done to facilitate a new
> release? Or should I just send mails to Iohannes until he get bored and do
> all the job?"
>
> were these ever answered?
>
> I'm no GEM user, but I know people love it and use it, it'd be really sad
> to see it dying away - I agree it needs love and attention.
>
> cheers
>
> 2017-04-11 13:44 GMT-03:00 me.grimm :
>
>> also Dan has been working on AVFoundation framework support. see:
>>
>> https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/pull/135#issuecomment-293210634
>>
>> i am sure he could use help debugging, etc.
>>
>> it would be great to get a new release
>>
>> maybe we can organize how t do this given cyrille's call back in november
>> here:
>> https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/gem-dev/2016-11/007264.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres <
>> por...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> your best hope is to expect Gem in Purr Data sometime soon
>>>
>>> I'm copying jonathan here to see if he can tell us something about it,
>>> apparently matt was working on a way to compile it (copied too)
>>>
>>> 2017-04-11 11:54 GMT-03:00 Pagano, Patrick :
>>>
 How does one successfully load GEM post pd-extended on Mac?

 I would love to continue to use GEM

 i mean for all my work i have on 42-5/43.4 with GEM/Extended all works
 but i would love to know what the proper way forward is


 maybe this is more appropriate for a GEM list but i thought i would
 maybe get an update regarding Gem and pd?


 thank you!


 Patrick


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Re: [PD] missing MSVCR71.DLL on Win10, Gem can't load library

[Jonghyun Kim]

Ok, I see. It works without re-install or re-start. Just copy the file
(msvcr71.dll) to that location (C:\Windows\System OR SysWOW64 OR installed
Gem Folder)

Thanks,
Jonghyun

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 4:13 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig 
wrote:

> On 2017-04-10 23:38, Jonghyun Kim wrote:
> > 3) Reinstall Gem and restart Pd
>
> i seriously doubt that you need to re-install anything after putting
> msvcr71.dll into the PATH.
> you *might* not even need to restart Pd (but then, this is a simple
> enough).
>
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Re: [PD] GEM for OSX

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

"So, is there something that need to be done before creating a new release?
is it just a lack of time / motivation that prevent releasing? or just that
Gem is now only for linux? What could be done to facilitate a new release?
Or should I just send mails to Iohannes until he get bored and do all the
job?"

were these ever answered?

I'm no GEM user, but I know people love it and use it, it'd be really sad
to see it dying away - I agree it needs love and attention.

cheers

2017-04-11 13:44 GMT-03:00 me.grimm :

> also Dan has been working on AVFoundation framework support. see:
>
> https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/pull/135#issuecomment-293210634
>
> i am sure he could use help debugging, etc.
>
> it would be great to get a new release
>
> maybe we can organize how t do this given cyrille's call back in november
> here:
> https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/gem-dev/2016-11/007264.html
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres <
> por...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> your best hope is to expect Gem in Purr Data sometime soon
>>
>> I'm copying jonathan here to see if he can tell us something about it,
>> apparently matt was working on a way to compile it (copied too)
>>
>> 2017-04-11 11:54 GMT-03:00 Pagano, Patrick :
>>
>>> How does one successfully load GEM post pd-extended on Mac?
>>>
>>> I would love to continue to use GEM
>>>
>>> i mean for all my work i have on 42-5/43.4 with GEM/Extended all works
>>> but i would love to know what the proper way forward is
>>>
>>>
>>> maybe this is more appropriate for a GEM list but i thought i would
>>> maybe get an update regarding Gem and pd?
>>>
>>>
>>> thank you!
>>>
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>> Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [PD] GEM for OSX

[me.grimm]

also Dan has been working on AVFoundation framework support. see:

https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/pull/135#issuecomment-293210634

i am sure he could use help debugging, etc.

it would be great to get a new release

maybe we can organize how t do this given cyrille's call back in november
here:
https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/gem-dev/2016-11/007264.html



On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres 
wrote:

> your best hope is to expect Gem in Purr Data sometime soon
>
> I'm copying jonathan here to see if he can tell us something about it,
> apparently matt was working on a way to compile it (copied too)
>
> 2017-04-11 11:54 GMT-03:00 Pagano, Patrick :
>
>> How does one successfully load GEM post pd-extended on Mac?
>>
>> I would love to continue to use GEM
>>
>> i mean for all my work i have on 42-5/43.4 with GEM/Extended all works
>> but i would love to know what the proper way forward is
>>
>>
>> maybe this is more appropriate for a GEM list but i thought i would maybe
>> get an update regarding Gem and pd?
>>
>>
>> thank you!
>>
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
>>
>> *Assistant Professor in Residence*
>>
>>
>> *Digital Media & Design *
>>
>> *Web & Interactive Technologies*
>>
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Re: [PD] GEM for OSX

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

your best hope is to expect Gem in Purr Data sometime soon

I'm copying jonathan here to see if he can tell us something about it,
apparently matt was working on a way to compile it (copied too)

2017-04-11 11:54 GMT-03:00 Pagano, Patrick :

> How does one successfully load GEM post pd-extended on Mac?
>
> I would love to continue to use GEM
>
> i mean for all my work i have on 42-5/43.4 with GEM/Extended all works but
> i would love to know what the proper way forward is
>
>
> maybe this is more appropriate for a GEM list but i thought i would maybe
> get an update regarding Gem and pd?
>
>
> thank you!
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
> Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
>
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>
>
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Re: [PD] of Toggles and key presses

[Pagano, Patrick]

awesome thank you


Patrick


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From: hi 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:32:54 AM
To: Pagano, Patrick
Cc: pd list
Subject: Re: [PD] of Toggles and key presses

Hi Patrick

here is a version with "Caps_Lock" mechanism and with "Caps_Lock" + "Shift_L" 
mechanism. Of course you cam replace any of those with a global receiver which 
then can be activated with a toggle or a key.

best,

Jonas


Am 11.04.2017 um 16:44 schrieb "Pagano, Patrick" :

> Hello List
>
> i have a question i was hoping for some input on.
>
> On the synth patch i am working on i have 24 keys which are used for the 
> playing of the instrument.
>
> i am wondering if there's a way to create an edit mode so the playable keys 
> change when something is selected [a key combination?] the patch is in 
> settings mode so i can change from VCO/Noise for example and when that 
> combination is repressed keys return to  keyboard/note
>
> Keyboard/Notes
> keyboard/settings mode
>
> i am hopeful someone might have seen or tried this before and might have a 
> clue regarding how to implement!
>
>
> thank you
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] of Toggles and key presses

[hi via Pd-list]

Hi Patrick

here is a version with "Caps_Lock" mechanism and with "Caps_Lock" + "Shift_L" 
mechanism. Of course you cam replace any of those with a global receiver which 
then can be activated with a toggle or a key.

best, 

Jonas



cap_key-help.pd
Description: Binary data


cap_key.pd
Description: Binary data

Am 11.04.2017 um 16:44 schrieb "Pagano, Patrick" :

> Hello List
> 
> i have a question i was hoping for some input on. 
> 
> On the synth patch i am working on i have 24 keys which are used for the 
> playing of the instrument. 
> 
> i am wondering if there's a way to create an edit mode so the playable keys 
> change when something is selected [a key combination?] the patch is in 
> settings mode so i can change from VCO/Noise for example and when that 
> combination is repressed keys return to  keyboard/note  
> 
> Keyboard/Notes
> keyboard/settings mode 
> 
> i am hopeful someone might have seen or tried this before and might have a 
> clue regarding how to implement!
> 
> 
> thank you 
> 
> 
> 
> Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
> Assistant Professor in Residence
> Digital Media & Design
> Web & Interactive Technologies
> University of Connecticut, Stamford
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Re: [PD] of Toggles and key presses

[Johnny Mauser via Pd-list]

Hi patrick

That should be fairly easy, with alternating [spigot]s or the [gate]
object. I have made an abstraction which only lets keys through when
"capslock" is pressed. I will send it once im infront of my computer.

Best,

Jonas

Am 11.04.2017 16:45 schrieb "Pagano, Patrick" :

> Hello List
>
>
> i have a question i was hoping for some input on.
>
>
> On the synth patch i am working on i have 24 keys which are used for the
> playing of the instrument.
>
>
> i am wondering if there's a way to create an edit mode so the playable
> keys change when something is selected [a key combination?] the patch is in
> settings mode so i can change from VCO/Noise for example and when that
> combination is repressed keys return to  keyboard/note
>
>
> Keyboard/Notes
>
> keyboard/settings mode
>
>
> i am hopeful someone might have seen or tried this before and might have a
> clue regarding how to implement!
>
>
>
> thank you
>
>
>
>
> Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A
>
> *Assistant Professor in Residence*
>
>
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>
> *Web & Interactive Technologies*
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[PD] GEM for OSX

[Pagano, Patrick]

How does one successfully load GEM post pd-extended on Mac?

I would love to continue to use GEM

i mean for all my work i have on 42-5/43.4 with GEM/Extended all works but i 
would love to know what the proper way forward is


maybe this is more appropriate for a GEM list but i thought i would maybe get 
an update regarding Gem and pd?


thank you!


Patrick


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Re: [PD] Weird [cnv] object error-bug

[Liam Goodacre]

Or you can use ASCII code 160, the non-breaking space, which looks like a space 
but acts like a symbol. Copy it from between the speech marks and paste it into 
a label: " ". Works fine on all platforms.



From: Pd-list  on behalf of IOhannes m zmoelnig 

Sent: 11 April 2017 09:05
To: PD list
Subject: Re: [PD] Weird [cnv] object error-bug

On 2017-04-11 09:31, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote:
> Hello Liam,
>
> no. it wasn't created in l2ork, it is all vanilla,
>
> Hello Ico,
>
> yes it has blank spaces, that is interesting, I will try without, although
> it is a partial bug then, because it does work kinda until I wanna
> modify the properties in the main patch

it's a known issue.
the simplest workaround is to set the label to something without spaces
programmatically (e.g. use [label foo() before entering the properties.

the simplest fix for the problem would be to just forbid labels with spaces.

gfmasdr
IOhannes


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[PD] [PD-announce] MUME 2017 - BREAKING NEWS - CALL FOR LATE PAPERS

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===

MUME 2017 - BREAKING NEWS - CALL FOR LATE PAPERS

===

5th International Workshop on Musical Metacreation

http://musicalmetacreation.org

June 19-20, 2017, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, USA.

=== The 2017 MuMe workshop is opening up a new call for late papers ===

Re-opened to admit late breaking developments and works in progress, this
late papers deadline is your opportunity to get feedback on your work and
join the debate.

=== The 2017 MuMe concert call for works is still open.===

We are pleased to announce our partnership with the Chamber Cartel who will
be available for performing successful works.

=== Important dates ===
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Notification of acceptance: May 7th.

Camera-ready version: May 19th, 2017
Concert rehearsals: June 18th.
MuMe academic workshop and concert: June 19th.
ICCC conference: June 21th-23rd.

=== Submission ===
For all information regarding submission, head to
http://musicalmetacreation.org/.

Follow us on Twitter @MetaMusical.

Workshop Organizers

===

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Simon Fraser University, Canada

http://metacreation.net/

https://www.kadenze.com/programs/generative-art-and-computational-creativity

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School for the Contemporary Arts

Simon Fraser University, Canada

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The University of Sydney, Australia

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Re: [PD] Weird [cnv] object error-bug

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2017-04-11 09:31, José Rafael Subía Valdez wrote:
> Hello Liam,
> 
> no. it wasn't created in l2ork, it is all vanilla,
> 
> Hello Ico,
> 
> yes it has blank spaces, that is interesting, I will try without, although
> it is a partial bug then, because it does work kinda until I wanna
> modify the properties in the main patch

it's a known issue.
the simplest workaround is to set the label to something without spaces
programmatically (e.g. use [label foo() before entering the properties.

the simplest fix for the problem would be to just forbid labels with spaces.

gfmasdr
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