[PD] Gem automatically loads a path? (was Re: How to declare custom libraries in abstractions)

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

2018-04-14 17:39 GMT-03:00 IOhannes m zmölnig :

>
> Gem is special, as it adds its own path to Pd's search path and the user
> shouldn't manually do that.
>

Hi, how can I test this and check it? I was doing this on my own but it
seems I just got confused.

Can I test it in Pd Vanilla with one of the libraries available in deken?
Can I test it with Pd Extended? And how exactly?

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Re: [PD] avoid "properities"/"open" options in abstractions

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

well, I'm now confused, cause it was mentioned how Gem automatically adds a
path to Pd to load abstractions, so I was testing that even though I never
used Gem, and I was checking its abstractions, like gemmouse, to see if it
was instantiated without the path added. It got created, but I couldn't
open it as a normal abstraction in the patch. But it seems actually that
there is also a [gemmouse] object inside Gem... which would explain all
this...

2018-04-19 18:09 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres :

> Hi, I just learned that the Gem library similarly achieves what I wanted
> somehow...
>
> If you don't have the Gem library in the startup, you can load an
> abstraction like gemmouse and click it to open or right click it and get
> all the options (properties, open, help). But when the library is loaded,
> this gets locked somehow and doesn't affect all canvases and abstractions.
>
> The code of Gem is quite big and I can't seem to find where and how it
> does that. It doesn't seem to use "canvas_rightclick" or "
> ::pdtk_canvas::pdtk_canvas_popup". Any help please?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
> 2018-04-13 20:29 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres :
>
>> Yeah, I was like "does this object really exist?" :)
>>
>> But then, this is not what I was looking for. I can see it doesn't allow
>> you to open the subpatch, but it still shows the "open" option in the menu
>> when you right click it. I know there can be different strategies to
>> achieve practically equivalent results, but I'm not looking into
>> alternatives, I'm just trying to find a way to code an external that allows
>> me to avoid the "properities"/"open" options when you right click
>> abstractions.
>>
>> > IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > why would you want to do that on the tcl side?
>>>
>>
>> As of yet, I can't see any other way to achieve this.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>
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Re: [PD] compiling a recent Gem for windows ? ...

[Lucas Cordiviola]

@ Oliver:

Here's a compiled Gem a few weeks ago: > 
http://lucarda.com.ar/x/Gem-for-oliver-test.zip

I didn't did a "make install" so it contains manually copying of certain files 
(the hole Gem-master folder is 500MB post compilation). I'm not a Gem user so I 
just opened a couple of helps and they worked.

Hope it helps,
Lucarda.

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 4/19/2018 7:14 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
wow, I just realized Gem has over 2 thousand commits since 0.93.3

I wonder why 0.93.4 never came out

2018-04-19 9:30 GMT-03:00 oliver >:
hi, thanks a lot for your replies

@chris: yes, if you could post or link to a recent binary, that would be great !

@lucas: sorry, no luck here !

autogen.sh and configure.sh seem to work (i'm getting a similar config status 
like you posted). but the make process terminates after half an hour with an 
error i have yet to identify.

would you mind sending me your Gem binary so at least i can check if the "too 
many open files" bug is gone so i know it would be worth the effort to 
self-compile ?

thanks for all your inputs !

best

oliver



On 2018-04-18 22:04, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
I did a Msys2 compile a few weeks ago:

--

_./autogen.sh_

_./configure --with-pd=path/to/your-pd-sources
--prefix=path/for/installation --without-ftgl_

_make_

---

Then I copied "libwinpthread-1.dll" & "libstdc++-6.dll" from the
compiler to a manually built Gem folder.

@Oliver: remember you discover a change on Pd post 0-48-1 thats
stopping Gem to load. I just did it to try get Gem loaded and I could.

see this thread --->
https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2018-03/021538.html [7]

This is just a starting point. May be you get what you need with this
basic compile. I'm not a Gem user so I'm not sure.

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 4/18/2018 3:57 PM, Chris Clepper wrote:

A friend did some work on GEM for Windows 10 about a year ago.  I
have asked him for any info (I think he used MS toolchain) and
possibly a binary.  I'll post anything I get.

Chris

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:08 PM, oliver 
> wrote:

hi, dear list !

does anyone in this wonderful PD-land by any chance got a
self-compiled version of a recent Gem source for the windows
platform that he/she would share ?

the reason i'm asking is:

the last official windows binary of Gem dates from 2011
(version: 0.93.3) and has the following bug (windows only):

https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/issues/156 [1]

the issue was declared closed on 14.11.17

so, i assume that compiling Gem from source for windows would be a
way to overcome this bug, am i right here ?

now, sooner than i thought came the project, when i really need to
be able to play back a big series of still images from recorded
video input streams, so the Gem 0.93.3 windows bug strikes me
right there.

and this is where i'm stuck:

the latest "self-compiling" guide i found for Gem is this one from
2014:



https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/wiki/How-to-build-Gem-on-Microsoft-Windows-%28MINGW%29
[2]

but meanwhile a lot of things seem to have changed.
i am using the latest MSYS. i recently successfully self-compiled
a 64-bit version of PD, using this guide from Lucas Cordiviola:

https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2018-03/122089.html
[3]

is there a similar howto like this existing for
(the latest sources of) Gem for Windows ?
what would be the 2018 equivalent of the libraries mentioned in
the 2014 guide (which MSYS doesn't seem to find)

any help in this regard is highly appreciated !

best

oliver

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Re: [PD] compiling a recent Gem for windows ? ...

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

wow, I just realized Gem has over 2 thousand commits since 0.93.3

I wonder why 0.93.4 never came out

2018-04-19 9:30 GMT-03:00 oliver :

> hi, thanks a lot for your replies
>
> @chris: yes, if you could post or link to a recent binary, that would be
> great !
>
> @lucas: sorry, no luck here !
>
> autogen.sh and configure.sh seem to work (i'm getting a similar config
> status like you posted). but the make process terminates after half an hour
> with an error i have yet to identify.
>
> would you mind sending me your Gem binary so at least i can check if the
> "too many open files" bug is gone so i know it would be worth the effort to
> self-compile ?
>
> thanks for all your inputs !
>
> best
>
> oliver
>
>
>
> On 2018-04-18 22:04, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
>
>> I did a Msys2 compile a few weeks ago:
>>
>> --
>>
>> _./autogen.sh_
>>
>> _./configure --with-pd=path/to/your-pd-sources
>> --prefix=path/for/installation --without-ftgl_
>>
>> _make_
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Then I copied "libwinpthread-1.dll" & "libstdc++-6.dll" from the
>> compiler to a manually built Gem folder.
>>
>> @Oliver: remember you discover a change on Pd post 0-48-1 thats
>> stopping Gem to load. I just did it to try get Gem loaded and I could.
>>
>> see this thread --->
>> https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2018-03/021538.html [7]
>>
>> This is just a starting point. May be you get what you need with this
>> basic compile. I'm not a Gem user so I'm not sure.
>>
>> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>>
>> On 4/18/2018 3:57 PM, Chris Clepper wrote:
>>
>> A friend did some work on GEM for Windows 10 about a year ago.  I
>>> have asked him for any info (I think he used MS toolchain) and
>>> possibly a binary.  I'll post anything I get.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:08 PM, oliver  wrote:
>>>
>>> hi, dear list !

 does anyone in this wonderful PD-land by any chance got a
 self-compiled version of a recent Gem source for the windows
 platform that he/she would share ?

 the reason i'm asking is:

 the last official windows binary of Gem dates from 2011
 (version: 0.93.3) and has the following bug (windows only):

 https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/issues/156 [1]

 the issue was declared closed on 14.11.17

 so, i assume that compiling Gem from source for windows would be a
 way to overcome this bug, am i right here ?

 now, sooner than i thought came the project, when i really need to
 be able to play back a big series of still images from recorded
 video input streams, so the Gem 0.93.3 windows bug strikes me
 right there.

 and this is where i'm stuck:

 the latest "self-compiling" guide i found for Gem is this one from
 2014:



>>> https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/wiki/How-to-build-Gem-on-Mic
>> rosoft-Windows-%28MINGW%29
>>
>>> [2]

 but meanwhile a lot of things seem to have changed.
 i am using the latest MSYS. i recently successfully self-compiled
 a 64-bit version of PD, using this guide from Lucas Cordiviola:

 https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2018-03/122089.html
 [3]

 is there a similar howto like this existing for
 (the latest sources of) Gem for Windows ?
 what would be the 2018 equivalent of the libraries mentioned in
 the 2014 guide (which MSYS doesn't seem to find)

 any help in this regard is highly appreciated !

 best

 oliver

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>> [2]
>> https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/wiki/How-to-build-Gem-on-Mic
>> rosoft-Windows-%28MINGW%29
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Re: [PD] polynomial pairs in lpc filter

[Ed Kelly via Pd-list]

verbose...

tried...(all pd search paths)...and failed
tried...(current directory)...and failed

I will probably work it out sooner or later. The only external functions I'm 
using are fabs() from  and fft_mayer/ifft_mayer from m_pd.h

Ed


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http://sharktracks.co.uk  

On Thursday, 19 April 2018, 14:14:52 GMT+1, IOhannes m zmölnig 
 wrote:  
 
 On 04/19/2018 11:48 AM, Ed Kelly via Pd-list wrote:
> I remember trying to get some help with why my ported lpc object wasn't 
> initalizing properly earlier this week- also silence.
that's probably because it was totally unclear (at least to me) what you
were asking.

if your object cannot load
- replace "print" with "post"
- run Pd with "-verbose".
- check the console. check the terminal.
- check the file type.
- check whether all the runtime dependencies can be found.
etc.

gamdsr
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Re: [PD] avoid "properities"/"open" options in abstractions

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Hi, I just learned that the Gem library similarly achieves what I wanted
somehow...

If you don't have the Gem library in the startup, you can load an
abstraction like gemmouse and click it to open or right click it and get
all the options (properties, open, help). But when the library is loaded,
this gets locked somehow and doesn't affect all canvases and abstractions.

The code of Gem is quite big and I can't seem to find where and how it does
that. It doesn't seem to use "canvas_rightclick" or "
::pdtk_canvas::pdtk_canvas_popup". Any help please?

thanks




2018-04-13 20:29 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres :

> Yeah, I was like "does this object really exist?" :)
>
> But then, this is not what I was looking for. I can see it doesn't allow
> you to open the subpatch, but it still shows the "open" option in the menu
> when you right click it. I know there can be different strategies to
> achieve practically equivalent results, but I'm not looking into
> alternatives, I'm just trying to find a way to code an external that allows
> me to avoid the "properities"/"open" options when you right click
> abstractions.
>
> > IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
>> > >
>> > > why would you want to do that on the tcl side?
>>
>
> As of yet, I can't see any other way to achieve this.
>
> cheers
>
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Re: [PD] parametric equalizer

[Dan Wilcox]

Check out [e_3bandeq] in rc-patches: https://github.com/danomatika/rc-patches 


> On Apr 19, 2018, at 11:55 AM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> From: Raphaël Ilias >
> To: pd-list >
> Subject: [PD] parametric equalizer
> Message-ID:
>    >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hello dear pd lovers,
> 
> I wonder if someone as implemented a parametric equalizer similar to the
> ones you find on mixer : like three band LOW MID HIGH, with -/+ X dB so
> that when everything is +0 dB, the output is flat and similar to input.
> And eventually with Q/curve/spectral transistion parameters ?
> 
> I know this is a very large question and that there might be a lot of
> different implementations, but I wondered if there are "standard" solutions.
> Vanilla preferred or stable libraries...
> 
> Thanks !
> 
> -- 
> Raphaël Ilias


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Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries in abstractions)

[Raphaël Ilias]

Good to know that my testing was useful.

However, I don't know if this is important for your testings, but I DO have
iemguts and zexy (and cyclone, flatgui, hcs and list-abs... for the ones
you use) already installed via Deken (so on Mac OS X now they're put in
/Users/myuseraccount/Library/Pd/).

I'll look deeper into Context when I have time, but it looks a huge amount
of work.

all the best,

Raphaël


2018-04-19 16:55 GMT+02:00 Liam Goodacre :

> Thanks Raphaël. It's especially good to know that Context works on Mac,
> since I haven't tested it there myself.
>
> It looks like you don't have the zexy, iemguts or else installed. You can
> get them from Help-->Find Externals if you want, but the important thing is
> that Context works with the built in externals.
>
> If you want to understand about resizing and shifting toggle floats, you
> can look at helpfiles/GUI_manioulation.pd
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions!
>
> Liam
> --
> *From:* Raphaël Ilias 
> *Sent:* 19 April 2018 12:56
> *Cc:* Liam Goodacre; PD list
> *Subject:* Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom
> libraries in abstractions)
>
> Hi,
>
> I might be late for the answer... I didn't know Context, but I just had a
> quick look about it and seems interesting concept.
> I am trying "externs-test.pd". I am using Macbook Pro 2012 with OS X
> 10.10.5 Yosemite and pd-vanilla 0.48-1
>
> 1. I don't have any "couldn't create" on load
>
> 2. I don't really know yet how to "resizing and shifting toggle floats"
>
> 3. The 4 objects seems to create but none of their help-files open with
> "right-click > Help"
>
> 4. I quit pd, renamed the 8 libraries folder as "_OUT_libraryname/" and
> re-opened "externs-test.pd" :
>
> 1B. Now I have a lot of "couldn't create" on load :
> - demux
> - l2s
> - sort
> - mux
> - urn
> - else/break &
> - msgfile
> - iemguts/initbang
> - else/fromany
> - else/toany
> - else/routeall
> - s2l
> - time
> - iemmatrix/matrix
> - iemmatrix/mtx_check
> ...
> and a few chords that couldn't be created, and missing arrays (0-IDshare)
>
> 2B : still don't know how to "resize and shift toggle floats"
>
> 3B : [s2l] and [else/toany] don't create. The other two do open their
> help-patches with "right-click > Help"
>
> NB : i don't have else library installed originally
>
>
> Hope this helps !
>
> cheers,
>
> Raphaël
>
>
> 2018-04-15 6:26 GMT+02:00 Lucas Cordiviola :
>
> Hi Liam,
>
> Amazing patching!
>
> -
>
> 1: When you open this patch, are there any "couldn't create" messages in
> the console? If so, tell me!
>
>
>
> There are not "couldn't create" on "externs-test.pd" but I found:
>
> * cyclone/tanh~*
> *... couldn't create*
>
> going through examples that use [docfiles/glock~].
>
> On "12_overlay_examples.pd" & 
> "13_embedding_(takes_several_minutes_to_load!).pd"
> i get:
>
>
> * <~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * &&~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * <~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * &&~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * <~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * &&~*
> *... couldn't create*
>
>
> 2: Does Context seem to be working correctly? Try resizing it and shifting
> toggle floats to see.;
>
>
>
> Resizing seems to work. I don't know what you mean with "shifting toggle
> floats to see".
>
> Notes: when using "externs-test.pd" if I click on the *lower left toggle*
> i get:
>
> *0-crxyoff: no such object*
> *0-roff: no such object*
> *0-notsafe: no such object*
> *0-roff2: no such object*
> *0-crxyoff: no such object*
>
> But is not the case if I create a new patch and a new [context].
>
> 3: If the following objects have created correctly, can you call the
> helpfiles?
>
>
>
> I can not open the help files.
>
> Note: I have temporarily switched off my normal externals folder.
>
> ---
>
> I can not open "00_first_time_tutorial.pd" it crashes Pd.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
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>
> On 4/14/2018 9:10 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:
>
> I figured out what the difference was between mine and Alex's screenshots.
> In my case, the "custom search location" was also the folder that the patch
> was saved into. So it was loading an external relative to this, not the
> custom search folder.
>
> I've uploaded a draft of Context with externals which I hope will work
> "out of the box". The idea is that if a user wants to use their own
> externals, they simply delete the relevant folders from the main Context
> folder, and then the patch goes back to searching for the externals in the
> regular places. This is based on the assumption that PD searches for
> externals in the PD folder BEFORE searching in Documents/PD/externals or
> anywhere else. This appears to be the case on my Linux and Windows
> machines, but can I count on it always working?
>
> Lucas, thanks for pointing me towards the old Extended binaries for Zexy.
> I didn't realized that they existed, and it helps to keep 

Re: [PD] parametric equalizer

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Not a ready made multi band equalizer, but the 'else' library also has a
biquad coefficient generator, which offers more options than the ggee
library (see else/bicoeff). Else also has ready made filters that don't
require biquad~ and take audio signals to control all the parameters (ie.
[else/eq~], [else/lowshelf~], [else/highshelf~], etc).

I thought about making a ready made parametric in else, but you can easily
build it  your own. For the lowest and highest band you need to use
lowshelf and highshelf respectively. Then use "eq~" for the mid bands.

cheers

2018-04-19 7:01 GMT-03:00 Christof Ressi :

> have a look at the "ggee" library!
> there are a couple of objects which mimik the usual EQ filters and output
> coefficients for [biquad~].
> besides [lowpass], [lowshelf], [highpass], [highshelf], [bandpass] and
> [notch] there's also a [equalizer] object which is a typical peeking filter
> with settable center frequency, bandwith and gain.
>
>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. April 2018 um 11:45 Uhr
> Von: "Raphaël Ilias" 
> An: pd-list 
> Betreff: [PD] parametric equalizer
>
> Hello dear pd lovers,
>  I wonder if someone as implemented a parametric equalizer similar to the
> ones you find on mixer : like three band LOW MID HIGH, with -/+ X dB so
> that when everything is +0 dB, the output is flat and similar to input.And
> eventually with Q/curve/spectral transistion parameters ?
>  I know this is a very large question and that there might be a lot of
> different implementations, but I wondered if there are "standard"
> solutions.Vanilla preferred or stable libraries...
>
>
> Thanks !
> --
>
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Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries in abstractions)

[Liam Goodacre]

Thanks Raphaël. It's especially good to know that Context works on Mac, since I 
haven't tested it there myself.

It looks like you don't have the zexy, iemguts or else installed. You can get 
them from Help-->Find Externals if you want, but the important thing is that 
Context works with the built in externals.

If you want to understand about resizing and shifting toggle floats, you can 
look at helpfiles/GUI_manioulation.pd

Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions!

Liam

From: Raphaël Ilias 
Sent: 19 April 2018 12:56
Cc: Liam Goodacre; PD list
Subject: Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries 
in abstractions)

Hi,

I might be late for the answer... I didn't know Context, but I just had a quick 
look about it and seems interesting concept.
I am trying "externs-test.pd". I am using Macbook Pro 2012 with OS X 10.10.5 
Yosemite and pd-vanilla 0.48-1

1. I don't have any "couldn't create" on load

2. I don't really know yet how to "resizing and shifting toggle floats"

3. The 4 objects seems to create but none of their help-files open with 
"right-click > Help"

4. I quit pd, renamed the 8 libraries folder as "_OUT_libraryname/" and 
re-opened "externs-test.pd" :

1B. Now I have a lot of "couldn't create" on load :
- demux
- l2s
- sort
- mux
- urn
- else/break &
- msgfile
- iemguts/initbang
- else/fromany
- else/toany
- else/routeall
- s2l
- time
- iemmatrix/matrix
- iemmatrix/mtx_check
...
and a few chords that couldn't be created, and missing arrays (0-IDshare)

2B : still don't know how to "resize and shift toggle floats"

3B : [s2l] and [else/toany] don't create. The other two do open their 
help-patches with "right-click > Help"

NB : i don't have else library installed originally


Hope this helps !

cheers,

Raphaël


2018-04-15 6:26 GMT+02:00 Lucas Cordiviola 
>:

Hi Liam,

Amazing patching!

-


1: When you open this patch, are there any "couldn't create" messages in the 
console? If so, tell me!


There are not "couldn't create" on "externs-test.pd" but I found:

 cyclone/tanh~
... couldn't create

going through examples that use [docfiles/glock~].

On "12_overlay_examples.pd" & 
"13_embedding_(takes_several_minutes_to_load!).pd" i get:


 <~
... couldn't create
 &&~
... couldn't create
 <~
... couldn't create
 &&~
... couldn't create
 <~
... couldn't create
 &&~
... couldn't create



2: Does Context seem to be working correctly? Try resizing it and shifting 
toggle floats to see.;


Resizing seems to work. I don't know what you mean with "shifting toggle floats 
to see".

Notes: when using "externs-test.pd" if I click on the *lower left toggle* i get:

0-crxyoff: no such object
0-roff: no such object
0-notsafe: no such object
0-roff2: no such object
0-crxyoff: no such object

But is not the case if I create a new patch and a new [context].

3: If the following objects have created correctly, can you call the helpfiles?


I can not open the help files.

Note: I have temporarily switched off my normal externals folder.

---

I can not open "00_first_time_tutorial.pd" it crashes Pd.






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On 4/14/2018 9:10 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:
I figured out what the difference was between mine and Alex's screenshots. In 
my case, the "custom search location" was also the folder that the patch was 
saved into. So it was loading an external relative to this, not the custom 
search folder.

I've uploaded a draft of Context with externals which I hope will work "out of 
the box". The idea is that if a user wants to use their own externals, they 
simply delete the relevant folders from the main Context folder, and then the 
patch goes back to searching for the externals in the regular places. This is 
based on the assumption that PD searches for externals in the PD folder BEFORE 
searching in Documents/PD/externals or anywhere else. This appears to be the 
case on my Linux and Windows machines, but can I count on it always working?

Lucas, thanks for pointing me towards the old Extended binaries for Zexy. I 
didn't realized that they existed, and it helps to keep the file size small. 
The Context folder currently has 6mb of binary externals (Linux, Windows & OS), 
which seems to me like an acceptable cost.

If anyone wants to test it, I'd really appreciate it, in case I've made a 
mistake. You can download the test branch here, then follow the instruction in 
the file "externs-test.pd".

https://github.com/LGoodacre/context-sequencer/tree/externs
[https://avatars2.githubusercontent.com/u/22167643?s=400=4]

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Re: [PD] polynomial pairs in lpc filter

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 04/19/2018 11:48 AM, Ed Kelly via Pd-list wrote:
> I remember trying to get some help with why my ported lpc object wasn't 
> initalizing properly earlier this week- also silence.
that's probably because it was totally unclear (at least to me) what you
were asking.

if your object cannot load
- replace "print" with "post"
- run Pd with "-verbose".
- check the console. check the terminal.
- check the file type.
- check whether all the runtime dependencies can be found.
etc.

gamdsr
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Re: [PD] [shell] - shell scripts on osx

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On 04/19/2018 02:39 PM, oliver wrote:
> hi, again something where i am stuck ...
> 
> i am trying to get a simple bash script to run on OS X using ggee's
> shell object.
> 
> 
> unfortunately, when sending it the corresponding message, [shell]
> doesn't seem to do anything. while simple commands like "ls" etc. work
> and output a result (out the left outlet), i can't seem to be able to
> run a (executable) .sh file that runs nicely when called from a terminal.
> 
> what's more:
> 
> even a simple output redirecting command like
> 
> ls -la > ./output.txt
> 
> 
> doesn't do anything apart from sending "1" out the right outlet.

hmm, redirection is actually *not* the simplest test case.
and getting a 1 indicates a problem.

you probably should check the terminal for errors (the help-patch
erroneously speaks of the "Pd console"; back in the days when [shell]
was written, the Pd console was indeed the terminal window.)

also, you and [shell] might have different opinions about what the
current directory ("./") means.
try using full paths.

[/Users/oliver/Documents/Scripts/runme.sh(

[ls -la > /tmp/output.txt(

> can anybody help or is there another way to run shell scripts from
> within PD on OSX ?

i don't know anything about OSX, but my advice should be generic enough...

gfmdsar
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[PD] [shell] - shell scripts on osx

[oliver]

hi, again something where i am stuck ...

i am trying to get a simple bash script to run on OS X using ggee's 
shell object.



unfortunately, when sending it the corresponding message, [shell] 
doesn't seem to do anything. while simple commands like "ls" etc. work 
and output a result (out the left outlet), i can't seem to be able to 
run a (executable) .sh file that runs nicely when called from a 
terminal.


what's more:

even a simple output redirecting command like

ls -la > ./output.txt


doesn't do anything apart from sending "1" out the right outlet.


can anybody help or is there another way to run shell scripts from 
within PD on OSX ?


best

oliver

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Re: [PD] compiling a recent Gem for windows ? ...

[oliver]

hi, thanks a lot for your replies

@chris: yes, if you could post or link to a recent binary, that would be 
great !


@lucas: sorry, no luck here !

autogen.sh and configure.sh seem to work (i'm getting a similar config 
status like you posted). but the make process terminates after half an 
hour with an error i have yet to identify.


would you mind sending me your Gem binary so at least i can check if the 
"too many open files" bug is gone so i know it would be worth the effort 
to self-compile ?


thanks for all your inputs !

best

oliver



On 2018-04-18 22:04, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:

I did a Msys2 compile a few weeks ago:

--

_./autogen.sh_

_./configure --with-pd=path/to/your-pd-sources
--prefix=path/for/installation --without-ftgl_

_make_

---

Then I copied "libwinpthread-1.dll" & "libstdc++-6.dll" from the
compiler to a manually built Gem folder.

@Oliver: remember you discover a change on Pd post 0-48-1 thats
stopping Gem to load. I just did it to try get Gem loaded and I could.

see this thread --->
https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2018-03/021538.html [7]

This is just a starting point. May be you get what you need with this
basic compile. I'm not a Gem user so I'm not sure.

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 4/18/2018 3:57 PM, Chris Clepper wrote:


A friend did some work on GEM for Windows 10 about a year ago.  I
have asked him for any info (I think he used MS toolchain) and
possibly a binary.  I'll post anything I get.

Chris

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:08 PM, oliver  wrote:


hi, dear list !

does anyone in this wonderful PD-land by any chance got a
self-compiled version of a recent Gem source for the windows
platform that he/she would share ?

the reason i'm asking is:

the last official windows binary of Gem dates from 2011
(version: 0.93.3) and has the following bug (windows only):

https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/issues/156 [1]

the issue was declared closed on 14.11.17

so, i assume that compiling Gem from source for windows would be a
way to overcome this bug, am i right here ?

now, sooner than i thought came the project, when i really need to
be able to play back a big series of still images from recorded
video input streams, so the Gem 0.93.3 windows bug strikes me
right there.

and this is where i'm stuck:

the latest "self-compiling" guide i found for Gem is this one from
2014:





https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/wiki/How-to-build-Gem-on-Microsoft-Windows-%28MINGW%29

[2]

but meanwhile a lot of things seem to have changed.
i am using the latest MSYS. i recently successfully self-compiled
a 64-bit version of PD, using this guide from Lucas Cordiviola:

https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2018-03/122089.html
[3]

is there a similar howto like this existing for
(the latest sources of) Gem for Windows ?
what would be the 2018 equivalent of the libraries mentioned in
the 2014 guide (which MSYS doesn't seem to find)

any help in this regard is highly appreciated !

best

oliver

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Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries in abstractions)

[Raphaël Ilias]

Hi,

I might be late for the answer... I didn't know Context, but I just had a
quick look about it and seems interesting concept.
I am trying "externs-test.pd". I am using Macbook Pro 2012 with OS X
10.10.5 Yosemite and pd-vanilla 0.48-1

1. I don't have any "couldn't create" on load

2. I don't really know yet how to "resizing and shifting toggle floats"

3. The 4 objects seems to create but none of their help-files open with
"right-click > Help"

4. I quit pd, renamed the 8 libraries folder as "_OUT_libraryname/" and
re-opened "externs-test.pd" :

1B. Now I have a lot of "couldn't create" on load :
- demux
- l2s
- sort
- mux
- urn
- else/break &
- msgfile
- iemguts/initbang
- else/fromany
- else/toany
- else/routeall
- s2l
- time
- iemmatrix/matrix
- iemmatrix/mtx_check
...
and a few chords that couldn't be created, and missing arrays (0-IDshare)

2B : still don't know how to "resize and shift toggle floats"

3B : [s2l] and [else/toany] don't create. The other two do open their
help-patches with "right-click > Help"

NB : i don't have else library installed originally


Hope this helps !

cheers,

Raphaël


2018-04-15 6:26 GMT+02:00 Lucas Cordiviola :

> Hi Liam,
>
> Amazing patching!
>
> -
>
> 1: When you open this patch, are there any "couldn't create" messages in
> the console? If so, tell me!
>
>
>
> There are not "couldn't create" on "externs-test.pd" but I found:
>
> * cyclone/tanh~*
> *... couldn't create*
>
> going through examples that use [docfiles/glock~].
>
> On "12_overlay_examples.pd" & 
> "13_embedding_(takes_several_minutes_to_load!).pd"
> i get:
>
>
> * <~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * &&~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * <~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * &&~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * <~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * &&~*
> *... couldn't create*
>
>
> 2: Does Context seem to be working correctly? Try resizing it and shifting
> toggle floats to see.;
>
>
>
> Resizing seems to work. I don't know what you mean with "shifting toggle
> floats to see".
>
> Notes: when using "externs-test.pd" if I click on the *lower left toggle*
> i get:
>
> *0-crxyoff: no such object*
> *0-roff: no such object*
> *0-notsafe: no such object*
> *0-roff2: no such object*
> *0-crxyoff: no such object*
>
> But is not the case if I create a new patch and a new [context].
>
> 3: If the following objects have created correctly, can you call the
> helpfiles?
>
>
>
> I can not open the help files.
>
> Note: I have temporarily switched off my normal externals folder.
>
> ---
>
> I can not open "00_first_time_tutorial.pd" it crashes Pd.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>
> On 4/14/2018 9:10 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:
>
> I figured out what the difference was between mine and Alex's screenshots.
> In my case, the "custom search location" was also the folder that the patch
> was saved into. So it was loading an external relative to this, not the
> custom search folder.
>
> I've uploaded a draft of Context with externals which I hope will work
> "out of the box". The idea is that if a user wants to use their own
> externals, they simply delete the relevant folders from the main Context
> folder, and then the patch goes back to searching for the externals in the
> regular places. This is based on the assumption that PD searches for
> externals in the PD folder BEFORE searching in Documents/PD/externals or
> anywhere else. This appears to be the case on my Linux and Windows
> machines, but can I count on it always working?
>
> Lucas, thanks for pointing me towards the old Extended binaries for Zexy.
> I didn't realized that they existed, and it helps to keep the file size
> small. The Context folder currently has 6mb of binary externals (Linux,
> Windows & OS), which seems to me like an acceptable cost.
>
> If anyone wants to test it, I'd really appreciate it, in case I've made a
> mistake. You can download the test branch here, then follow the instruction
> in the file "externs-test.pd".
>
> https://github.com/LGoodacre/context-sequencer/tree/externs
> 
> LGoodacre/context-sequencer
> 
> context-sequencer - Context, a modular sequencer for PD
> github.com
>
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Re: [PD] parametric equalizer

[Christof Ressi]

have a look at the "ggee" library! 
there are a couple of objects which mimik the usual EQ filters and output 
coefficients for [biquad~].
besides [lowpass], [lowshelf], [highpass], [highshelf], [bandpass] and [notch] 
there's also a [equalizer] object which is a typical peeking filter with 
settable center frequency, bandwith and gain.
 

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. April 2018 um 11:45 Uhr
Von: "Raphaël Ilias" 
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Betreff: [PD] parametric equalizer

Hello dear pd lovers,
 I wonder if someone as implemented a parametric equalizer similar to the ones 
you find on mixer : like three band LOW MID HIGH, with -/+ X dB so that when 
everything is +0 dB, the output is flat and similar to input.And eventually 
with Q/curve/spectral transistion parameters ?
 I know this is a very large question and that there might be a lot of 
different implementations, but I wondered if there are "standard" 
solutions.Vanilla preferred or stable libraries...

 
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Re: [PD] parametric equalizer

[cyrille henry]

hello,

It's not parametric, but I made a vanilla 30 band graphic stereo equalizer. It 
is in nusmuk audio.
I don't know about the deken avaibility, but it's on pd svn and on my website.

cheers
Cyrille


Le 19/04/2018 à 11:45, Raphaël Ilias a écrit :

Hello dear pd lovers,

I wonder if someone as implemented a parametric equalizer similar to the ones 
you find on mixer : like three band LOW MID HIGH, with -/+ X dB so that when 
everything is +0 dB, the output is flat and similar to input.
And eventually with Q/curve/spectral transistion parameters ?

I know this is a very large question and that there might be a lot of different 
implementations, but I wondered if there are "standard" solutions.
Vanilla preferred or stable libraries...

Thanks !

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Re: [PD] polynomial pairs in lpc filter

[Ed Kelly via Pd-list]

Hi Simon,

I remember trying to extract such information from pd-list members about 13 
years ago...the silence was deafening!

I remember trying to get some help with why my ported lpc object wasn't 
initalizing properly earlier this week- also silence.

However, I soldier on regardless. If you have any ideas about why my mbc_lpc~ 
object doesn't load then please hack it and return(github details at the 
bottom) but also take a look at the original code for mbc.allpass~ - it 
contains various methods that are commented out for calculating filter 
coefficients, and there may be some clues in there for you to pick at.

I've never quite got to the bottom of calculating Line Spectrum Frequencies and 
manipulating these as formants, but it sounds like the project I was trying to 
pursue so many years ago (before my idiot managers pulled the funding and tried 
tobotch their own project together).

Anyway - here's how far I've got with the port - do you think you could share 
ideas and code with me? it may speed things up at my end...

Ed

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On Wednesday, 18 April 2018, 14:31:43 GMT+1, Simon Iten 
 wrote:  
 
 calculate the zeroes (roots) of the polynomial i guess.

still hints are very welcome :)

> On 18 Apr 2018, at 11:51, Simon Iten  wrote:
> 
> hi list,
> 
> this is more of a general DSP question...
> 
> i am working on an LPC playback and mangling system for axoloti. i have most 
> of it working and i am now trying to shift formants in the filter to change 
> voice character. i found functions to convert reflection coefficients into 
> polynomial pairs and presumably i should be able to shift filter frequencies 
> in this representation of the data. unfortunately i have no clue how to do 
> that. any hints, papers, code snippets etc. are very welcome.
> 
> or if someone wants to take the time to explain, you are of course more then 
> welcome
> 
> thanks for any suggestions
> 
> 


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[PD] parametric equalizer

[Raphaël Ilias]

Hello dear pd lovers,

I wonder if someone as implemented a parametric equalizer similar to the
ones you find on mixer : like three band LOW MID HIGH, with -/+ X dB so
that when everything is +0 dB, the output is flat and similar to input.
And eventually with Q/curve/spectral transistion parameters ?

I know this is a very large question and that there might be a lot of
different implementations, but I wondered if there are "standard" solutions.
Vanilla preferred or stable libraries...

Thanks !

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