Re: [PD] Mailing list archive search: Remove attachment.htm results?

2024-04-23 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmoelnig [2024-04-23 12:06]: > On 4/23/24 08:56, Peter P. wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The search function on https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list// > > is great, but a large number of search results are of the form > > "/pipermail

Re: [PD] copy data between arrays

2024-04-23 Thread Peter P.
out by chance that writing and reading to/from clipboard also > works ! > > [write clipboard( > | > [array define a1] > > > [read clipboard( > | > [array define a2] > > Can you confirm this ? > > Best > > Oliver > > > > >

Re: [PD] copy data between arrays

2024-04-23 Thread Peter P.
audio dropouts. Much appreciated help, thanks! P * Peter P. [2024-04-23 08:54]: > Hi list, > > I am sure this has been asked many times, but I can't find a solution in > the mailing list archive. How can I copy data between arrays, in my case > arrays of 48 samples without

[PD] Mailing list archive search: Remove attachment.htm results?

2024-04-23 Thread Peter P.
Hi, The search function on https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list// is great, but a large number of search results are of the form "/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20160527/3e480100/attachment.html" and are more or less unreadable. I would like to suggest to exclude them from the indexing

[PD] copy data between arrays

2024-04-23 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, I am sure this has been asked many times, but I can't find a solution in the mailing list archive. How can I copy data between arrays, in my case arrays of 48 samples without using externals and without blocking the DSP computation (causing dropouts)? I know that I can write to disk

Re: [PD] [hidraw] repeated identical mouse wheel events not reported?

2024-04-20 Thread Peter P.
* Lucas Cordiviola [2024-04-17 09:26]: > @Peter > > v0.1.1 is up on deken: https://deken.puredata.info/results.html?name=hidraw Thank you for your quick response, fix and deken upload, Lucas! The problem is still there with the current hidraw v0.1.1 and hidapi v0.14.0 on Linux that is, the same

[PD] [hidraw] repeated identical mouse wheel events not reported?

2024-04-16 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, I am using [hidraw] to read events from a mouse. I understand that hidraw in fact reports the entire state of the device rather whenever some event happens. Interestingly, moving the scroll wheel down by one step is reported, but moving it down another step afterwards is not reported

[PD] Add to docs: [loadbang] also fires upon (re)creation

2024-04-16 Thread Peter P.
Hi, just found out that [loadbang] also fires a bang when the object is created, or re-created, not only when the patch containing it is opened. It could be nice to have a word about this in its help patch perhaps. Thanks! P ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at

Re: [PD] vcf~ producing output without input for 0Hz cutoff?

2024-04-13 Thread Peter P.
t; or so), a 1kHz can't go back and forth in less than about 1ms, etc. > > > The output of a 0Hz filter can't move... at all. When you set the > > > cutoff to 0Hz, the output freezes to its current value. It won't > > > magically decay to 0. > > > > &g

Re: [PD] [hidraw] get more info on HID values on Mac OS laptop?

2024-04-11 Thread Peter P.
* Patko nytkophilus [2024-04-11 22:15]: > Hello, > > I've just compiled hid-0.7 from https://github.com/pd-externals/hid for mac > m1, it's highly documented and sources are provided, the Makefile is for > macos only, and it doesn't require the xcode project anymore. > > You should find it

[PD] [hidraw] get more info on HID values on Mac OS laptop?

2024-04-11 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, does anyone know of a good way to get more information about HIDs on Mac OS? Currently a colleague is using [hidraw] on a MacBook Pro 14" 2021 M1 MacOS 14.1.2 and is trying to understand what some of the reported sensor values represent. He has found out that one of the devices reports

Re: [PD] vcf~ producing output without input for 0Hz cutoff?

2024-04-11 Thread Peter P.
* Antoine Rousseau [2024-04-11 13:40]: > That doesn't seem incorrect to me; after all, a lowpass filter at 0Hz > implies that its output is constant (any change would involve frequencies > > 0Hz). Thanks Antoine, Why does a lowpass filter, that has a cutoff frequency of 0Hz imply that it's

Re: [PD] vcf~ producing output without input for 0Hz cutoff?

2024-04-11 Thread Peter P.
* Alexandre Torres Porres [2024-04-10 22:19]: > the problem is your input, with a DC component (0 hz). This doesn't seem to > happen with [osc~] and seems like normal behaviour and not something to be > documented I see, phasor~'s waveform is not symmetric around 0, good point. But why will

[PD] vcf~ producing output without input for 0Hz cutoff?

2024-04-10 Thread Peter P.
Howdy list, just discovered, that [vcf~] produces output after its input has decayed for a cutoff frequency of 0Hz, but not for values higher 0. A minimal working example is attached. Is this behavior known? Could it be mentioned in the help patch maybe? cheersz, P #N canvas 416 334 716 365

[PD] [hidraw] get more info on HID values on Mac OS laptop?

2024-04-04 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, does anyone know of a good way to get more information about HIDs on Mac OS? Currently a colleague is using [hidraw] on a MacBook Pro 14" 2021 M1 MacOS 14.1.2 and is trying to understand what some of the reported sensor values represent. He has found out that one of the devices reports

[PD] pd.iem.at down?

2024-04-03 Thread Peter P.
Hi, i am getting a "Service unavailable" response from my browser trying to access http://pd.iem.at/ while other sites such as http://puredata.info/ are accessible. cheersz, Peter ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

[PD] disable mouse pointer (with xinput?) on os x?

2024-03-25 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, is there a way to disable the mouse pointer for a specific HID on os x? I want to use an external usb mouse with [hidraw] without having it act as a mouse pointer in the user interface. On Debian/GNU Linux I can achieve this with xinput in the following way: List all X input devices

Re: [PD] Add to documentation: makenote accepts lists in its leftmost inlet

2024-03-14 Thread Peter P.
Hi, here is a reply from Miller that might have bypassed the list. Peter - Forwarded message from Miller Puckette - From: Miller Puckette To: "Peter P." Subject: Re: [PD] Add to documentation: makenote accepts lists in its leftmost inlet Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 12:4

Re: [PD] Add to documentation: makenote accepts lists in its leftmost inlet

2024-03-14 Thread Peter P.
* Roman Haefeli [2024-03-14 15:57]: > > On Thu, 2024-03-14 at 15:34 +0100, Peter P. wrote: > > > > the help patch for [makenote] could mention that the object accepts a > > list in its leftmost inlet as well, or is this behavior taken for > > granted along all

[PD] Add to documentation: makenote accepts lists in its leftmost inlet

2024-03-14 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, the help patch for [makenote] could mention that the object accepts a list in its leftmost inlet as well, or is this behavior taken for granted along all message-objects? thanks! P ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] hid objects on linux/mac/win? hidraw on linux? hidraw parsing?

2024-03-13 Thread Peter P.
Dear Albert, Lucas, list, * Albert Rafetseder [2024-03-13 08:21]: > Dear Peter & all, > > > On Linux I can install [hidraw] 0.1.0 via Deken. The external loads > > without errors, but I am not getting any response clicking the > > "listdevices" message. > > As Lucas reported in the other

Re: [PD] hid objects on linux/mac/win? hidraw on linux? hidraw parsing?

2024-03-13 Thread Peter P.
I am forwarding another helpful reply from Lucas below, which seems to have bypassed this list. Thank you Lucas for the information, this is much appreciated! P - Forwarded message from Lucas Cordiviola - Subject: Re: [PD] hid objects on linux/mac/win? hidraw on linux? hidraw parsing?

[PD] hid objects on linux/mac/win? hidraw on linux? hidraw parsing?

2024-03-12 Thread Peter P.
Dear list, I am trying to bring my knowledge of hid-related objects up to date for all three OSes. On Linux I can install [hid] 0.7 via Deken and use it as a normal user as a member of the 'input' users group. On Linux I can install [hidraw] 0.1.0 via Deken. The external loads without errors,

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.13

2024-03-12 Thread Peter P.
* cyrille henry [2024-03-12 17:08]: > I don't know about debian package. Is it Iohannes job, or should I do > something? I am not sure. I filed a bug report earlier this year to initiate a package update at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1060212 The package info page at

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.13

2024-03-12 Thread Peter P.
Génial! Thanks to Benjamin and to you Cyrille! Hope it will be be packaged as updated pd-pmpd for Debian in addition to the Deken release. best, P * cyrille henry [2024-03-11 15:11]: > Hello, > > Thanks to all the help provide by Benjamin Wesch, pmpd (Physical Modelling > for Pure Data)

Re: [PD] RIP Ed Kelly

2024-03-12 Thread Peter P.
Dan, Lucas, thanks for your efforts! Why not host on puredata.info? cheersz, P * Dan Wilcox [2024-03-12 08:42]: > Thanks for spreading the post. > > I was also thinking we should consider preserving the metastudio patches and > externals somewhere, perhaps on the pd-externals GitHub group, as

Re: [PD] RIP Ed Kelly

2024-03-11 Thread Peter P.
So sad. I remeber him as a truly unique character with a lot of energy. * Chris McCormick [2024-03-11 11:09]: > Sad to hear this. So long, Ed. > > I believe this was his most recent work. Love this album. > > https://synchroma.bandcamp.com/album/driftwood > > Maybe we can listen to it again

Re: [PD] Multiple 'extra' paths (was Re: Can't load iemmatrix lib)

2024-01-20 Thread Peter P.
Hi Joseph, hi IOhannes, you two got me curious and on my Debian stable system I have /usr/lib/puredata/extra/, which holds the external distributed with Pd as part of Debian's puredata-extra package, and /usr/lib/pd/extra/ which holds other external installed as Debian packages, such as pd-zexy

Re: [PD] Can't load iemmatrix lib

2024-01-17 Thread Peter P.
Hi (gia sou?) Alexandros, since you are on Debian, try installing the Debian package pd-iemmatrix instead, which pulls in libgsl27 as a dependency. I generally prefer installing pd externals via apt since they will be updated automatically, a feature that deken still seems to be missing. At least

Re: [PD] time/date

2024-01-16 Thread Peter P.
Hrvoje, have you checked the list archives at pd.iem.at? best, P * Hrvoje Radnic via Pd-list [2024-01-16 11:27]: > Dear group, > Is there any solution for getting the system time-date in pure data vanilla? > I would like to use my quick recording abstraction without worrying about > file name

Re: [PD] call for test : pmpd binary for osX

2024-01-07 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmölnig [2024-01-06 20:42]: > On 1/6/24 09:18, Peter P. wrote: > > By the way, the pd-pmpd Debian package from stable-backports lists > > version 0.9-7 while Deken provides 0.12. > > > please file a bugreport against the Debian package so it gets updated. Do

[PD] updates through deken and the [import] object

2024-01-06 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, I am wondering if there are any considerations amongst developers to allow the upgrade of externals/libraries through deken eventually? I have just discovered the [import] library, described on [1] as "Aiming to provide a simplified Python-style import for Pure Data, this import object

Re: [PD] call for test : pmpd binary for osX

2024-01-06 Thread Peter P.
Just in case it is helpful: * Patco [2024-01-06 00:50]: [...] > When 08.balls2D.pd is opened after 07.corde3D it crashes pd Not the case on Debian/GNU Linux with pmpd 0.12 from Deken. [...] > 14.MP.curve3D.pd crashes pd when it's opened after exemple 13 and on closing > patch. Also not the

Re: [PD] water model object

2023-12-19 Thread Peter P.
* Kasper Jordaens [2023-12-19 12:46]: > Hi, > > a couple of years ago, I bumped into an object or an abstraction that was > able to synthesize the sound of water, ranging from a drop to a waterfall > with an intensity slider. Andy Farnell: Designing Sound

Re: [PD] MIDI loop

2023-11-16 Thread Peter P.
* Chris McCormick [2023-11-17 04:29]: > Hi, > > Does anybody know of an object (maybe an abstraction over cyclone/seq) with > the following properties: > > * Takes an external MIDI clock tick (like seq). > * Stores MIDI events as they happen (like seq). > * Can play back recording when ticks

Re: [PD] Relative Db measurement

2023-11-04 Thread Peter P.
* Andy Farnell [2023-11-04 09:49]: [...] > confused about what is the best way to do that, the choices being > [samphold] and [env]. So I'd also be interested in the best (most > accurate) answer. Andy, [samphold] as well as [snapshot~] do give you the amplitude value of one single sample, which

Re: [PD] Relative Db measurement

2023-11-04 Thread Peter P.
* Chris McCormick [2023-11-04 09:14]: > Hi, > > Hopefully this elementary audio question is not too stupid. > > If I have some signal source how I can I measure the relative change in Db > when some change is made to the signal? E.g. if I have an [osc~ 440] going > into a [*~] and I change the

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-1 released

2023-11-04 Thread Peter P.
Dear Linux ROUEN Normandie, * Linux ROUEN Normandie [2023-11-04 00:27]: [...] > Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring (/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the > DEPRECATION section in apt-key(8) for details. Type man apt-key and search for the DEPRECATION section? amicalement, Peter

[PD] round off the corners of a [line] movement?

2023-09-27 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, often when I use [line¨] to make frequency glissandi, the point when the ramp starts, and the point where it ends, appear as very sudden events to my ears. I am wondering if there is an easy way to gradually speed up the ramp when it starts, and slow it down before it reaches its target

Re: [PD] use 2nd keyboard for note and control input to pd even when other apps have focus

2023-09-15 Thread Peter P.
* Billy Stiltner [2023-09-15 23:10]: > got the keyboard detachrd from xinput > showing events with hid > however events are not sent to key and keyup > the keyboard reattached i itself after some inactivity > today afyer rebooting > the keyboard isnt showing up in xinpit > it does show in lsusb

Re: [PD] Gem v0.94-snapshot crashing on MacOS 10.15.7 when creating [gemwin]

2023-06-29 Thread Peter P.
* Peter P. [2023-06-22 18:10]: > Hi list, > > it seems that Gem v0.94-snapshot from Deken within Pd 0.51.4 does crash > silently when a gemwin Object is created on MacOS Catalina 10.15.7. For the record: This issue has been resolved today: https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/issues

[PD] Gem v0.94-snapshot crashing on MacOS 10.15.7 when creating [gemwin]

2023-06-22 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, it seems that Gem v0.94-snapshot from Deken within Pd 0.51.4 does crash silently when a gemwin Object is created on MacOS Catalina 10.15.7. What to try next? Thanks! Peter ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] copy [text] buffer contents to another text buffer?

2023-06-08 Thread Peter P.
] > | > [t a b] > | | > |[1 e+015( > | | > [text set beta] > > > > Le mer. 7 juin 2023, 13:07, Peter P. a écrit : > > > Hi list, > > > > what would be the easiest way to copy the contents of [text define > > alpha] to [text define beta]?

[PD] copy [text] buffer contents to another text buffer?

2023-06-07 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, what would be the easiest way to copy the contents of [text define alpha] to [text define beta]? It seems [text get alpha] will only output individual lines and I am looking for a single command that copies all. I have no experience with data structures and don't know if that would

Re: [PD] update on Gem for Apple Silicon?

2023-06-02 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmölnig [2023-06-02 09:04]: [...] > I do advise Linux people to > just build Gem themselves (or use a distribution that offers packages for > Gem's git snapshots). Thanks IOhannes! Which distro does pack these snapshots? On Debian I see the following:

Re: [PD] example needed: rfft~ into magnitudes AND phases AND back

2023-06-01 Thread Peter P.
* cyrille henry [2023-06-01 11:00]: > hello, > > expr~ is in vanilla! > > so [expr atan2($f1, $f2)] should work. Thanks Cyrille, that's a good hint! I think it should in fact be [expr~ atan2($v2, $v1)] to work with signal vectors blockwise. Now I am wondering if I should/need to unwrap the

[PD] drawing poles and zeros (z-plane) in Gem?

2023-06-01 Thread Peter P.
Hi has anyone already done a visualization of a z-plane with poles and zeros in Gem? cheersz, P ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] example needed: rfft~ into magnitudes AND phases AND back

2023-06-01 Thread Peter P.
Dear list, I am still trying to calculate (unwrapped) phases from cartesian complex numbers output by [rfft~] and got pointed to cyclone's [atan~] and [phasewrap~]. I am wondering Is there a way to achieve the same with vanilla pd objects? Thanks! Peter * Peter P. [2023-05-26 14:10]: > Hi l

[PD] [text sequence] and rescheduling of updated buffers

2023-06-01 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, I am using [text sequence] with wait times to generate timed events. The contents of my list buffer look something like 0 event1; 1000 event2; 1000 event3; When I insert a line into the buffer using [text insert 2] 1400 msecs after starting the sequencer, the text buffer looks like

Re: [PD] vbap for mac binary?

2023-05-29 Thread Peter P.
* Dan Wilcox [2023-05-27 23:51]: > > > On May 26, 2023, at 11:28 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > * Dan Wilcox mailto:danomat...@gmail.com>> > > [2023-05-26 21:03]: > >> It has been updated for pd-lib-builder and is very easy to compile from > >> source: Thanks again! If someone

Re: [PD] vbap for mac binary?

2023-05-26 Thread Peter P.
* Dan Wilcox [2023-05-26 21:03]: > It has been updated for pd-lib-builder and is very easy to compile from > source: > > https://github.com/pd-externals/vbap Thanks Dan, me for my part I don't have a mac computer, but am trying to help someone else (who doesn't know how to compile). What would

[PD] example needed: rfft~ into magnitudes AND phases AND back

2023-05-26 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, trying to work on phase angles of spectra I am looking for an easy example with actual Pd objects how to convert a [rfft~] output from real and imaginary to magnitudes and phases, eventually unwrap phases if required, and then convert magnitudes and phases back to a cartesian for

[PD] vbap for mac binary?

2023-05-26 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, taking a look at vbap http://deken.puredata.info/library/vbap/0.0.extended again after some years. There seem to be no os x binaries available. How could they be added to deken, how can I help achieving this? thanks, Peter ___

Re: [PD] print a warnung when a slider's log value gets overwritten closing the properties

2023-05-15 Thread Peter P.
* Alexandre Torres Porres [2023-05-16 06:43]: > I think it could let us do it and print an error if we attempt to use the > slider with this wrong setting I think this is too late. The warning should be printed upon closing the propoerties dialog.

Re: [PD] [r pd-dsp-started] bangs upon object deletion?

2023-05-15 Thread Peter P.
* Christof Ressi [2023-05-15 13:46]: > > I am wondering why it outputs a bang when I create an (empty) object > Does it really? Not for me. Indeed, my bad. > > and delete it again > > Deleting any object causes the DSP graph to be updated. (As a side note, I > *think* this wouldn't be

Re: [PD] [r pd-dsp-started] bangs upon object deletion?

2023-05-15 Thread Peter P.
Adding to my last email, that it outputs bangs when signal connections are drawn. So the object reports all updates to the dsp graph maybe? * Peter P. [2023-05-15 12:31]: > Hi list, > > I am using [r pd-dsp-started] to recalculate parameters. I am wondering > why it outputs a bang w

[PD] [r pd-dsp-started] bangs upon object deletion?

2023-05-15 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, I am using [r pd-dsp-started] to recalculate parameters. I am wondering why it outputs a bang when I create an (empty) object, and delete it again, either with the "Cut" menu item or the backspace key. Is this intentional and what would be a rationale? Thanks! P

[PD] print a warnung when a slider's log value gets overwritten closing the properties

2023-05-15 Thread Peter P.
Hi, graphical slider objects silently overwrite minimum values of zero with a fraction of the maximum value when their properties dialog is closed. I think this should be communicated as a warning to the user. cheersz, P ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at

Re: [PD] Number atom box limits overstepped

2023-05-11 Thread Peter P.
* João Pais [2023-05-11 09:18]: > Hello list, > > after all this time, I just noticed something which I'm not sure if it was > always like that or it changed without me noticing it: in atom boxes one can > define the lower/upper limits, which work when dragging with the mouse, but > don't work

Re: [PD] Audio latency on linux

2023-05-10 Thread Peter P.
Orm, you might wanna see if running your interface in 96kHz will halve the latency further. best, P ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] [text] memory usage

2023-04-26 Thread Peter P.
do > so, since 'peer' text objects are possible.. > > -seb; > >On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 09:25:05 AM PDT, IOhannes m zmölnig > wrote: > > Am 26. April 2023 18:03:16 MESZ schrieb "Peter P." > : > >Hi list, > > > >upon trying

[PD] [text] memory usage

2023-04-26 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, upon trying to add 1000 lines with [until] and [text insert] Pd/wish use up all RAM (and swap space) on my 8GB Debian box. Is there a way to predict memory usage for lines added? What would be the best strategy to do so without locking up Pd? Thanks, Peter

Re: [PD] midi file into [text sequence]?

2023-04-22 Thread Peter P.
t; > calculate the appropriate time delta between messages. > > > > Christof > > > > On 22.04.2023 07:46, Peter P. wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > starting to use [text sequence] instead of [qlist] more and more, I am > > > wondering h

[PD] midi file into [text sequence]?

2023-04-21 Thread Peter P.
Hi, starting to use [text sequence] instead of [qlist] more and more, I am wondering how difficult it might be to write an external script that converts .mid file into .txt usable by [textfile sequence]? Has anyone attempted something similar already? What would be the easiest language and/or

Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

2023-04-01 Thread Peter P.
http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries==image= returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the deken search engine. * Ingo

Re: [PD] Noise in bp-filter

2023-02-17 Thread Peter P.
Daniel, can you try the [vcf~] object instead of [bp~]? The noise you hear most likely happens when you change the filter frequency non-continuously. * Daniel Martin via Pd-list [2023-02-17 20:15]: > Dear PD-Users, I'm having a problem with a patch that > filters

[PD] [hidio] on Windows 11?

2023-01-25 Thread Peter P.
Hi, trying to help someone to use [hidio] on Windows11 with a USB game controller. The object loads fine, prints the device list but throws an error therein for device 18: [hidio] ERROR: Could not get HID attributes. Trying to open random devices (as I can't figure out the correct number

[PD] verbose object search paths not displaying unless debug4?

2023-01-24 Thread Peter P.
Hi list, I am trying to trace the non-loading of an external, iemguts in my case. I enabled verbose messages either in the "Path" preferences or by the command line flag. Nevertheless the familiar dump of all the places that are being searched is not displayed unless I enable verbose mode 4. Is

Re: [PD] Pd download pages are down

2023-01-23 Thread Peter P.
Mario, both currently are working from within my country on the european continent. * mario buoninfante [2023-01-23 16:22]: > Hi, > > Just wanted to report that at the moment there is no way to download Pd > from: > > * http://puredata.info/downloads/pure-data > *

[PD] Filter help patches typos

2023-01-17 Thread Peter P.
Hi, just want to mention two typos: rzero~-help.pd mentions that this was a "recursive" filter. Maybe this is a copy+paste error from rpole~-help? The difference equation in biquad~-help.pd gives an x[n-3] instead of x[n-2] cheersz, P

Re: [PD] Old patch unable to run

2023-01-16 Thread Peter P.
Dear BadMuthaHubbard, (one of my favourite email addresses on this list since long) a quick check in the SVN repository of old externals yielded miXed/doc/help/toxy/tot-help.pd which makes me assume there is a tot object in either a lib called [miXed] or [toxy], maybe courtesy of

Re: [PD] dwt~

2023-01-16 Thread Peter P.
* Paul Pignon [2023-01-16 10:51]: > Just reinstalled Debian 11 (got really wonky), now missing lots of pd stuff. > Need dwt~, not in creb anymore, though dwt~help.pd is there, oddly enough. > Can anyone tell me where to look? http://deken.puredata.info/ maybe.

Re: [PD] is [sigmund~] a "phase vocoder"?

2022-12-12 Thread Peter P.
* Alexandre Torres Porres [2022-12-12 17:23]: > Hi, just get things straight and confirmed, for quite a while now I have > included [sigmund~] into a "phase vocoder" section of my tutorial. > > I never check and I'm just guessing it uses what is called "phase vocoder > analysis" to find accurate

Re: [PD] [random] and seed value

2022-12-11 Thread Peter P.
Hi Thomas, * Thomas Mayer [2022-12-11 21:20]: [...] > My guess is, that most users probably expect at least different seed values > every time. > > Maybe the help file should explicitely state the behaviour or a different > way for deriving the initial seed should be used, e.g. taking the local

Re: [PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

2022-11-23 Thread Peter P.
* Chris McCormick [2022-11-23 03:45]: > On 23/11/22 4:58 am, Peter P. wrote: > > more views from others. > > > Whoever paints the community bike shed gets to pick the colours. Haha, lovely! Thanks Chris! ___ Pd-list@lists.i

Re: [PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

2022-11-22 Thread Peter P.
t; Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. > > On 22/11/2022 16:15, Peter P. wrote: > > I am putting up a proposal about using colors in vanilla the help > > patches for discussion. I think these patches should > > > > - Emphasize and encourage users to use the color

Re: [PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

2022-11-22 Thread Peter P.
I am putting up a proposal about using colors in vanilla the help patches for discussion. I think these patches should - Emphasize and encourage users to use the color features of GUI elements by showing that in their respective help patches. - Use colors in vanilla help patches to highlight

Re: [PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

2022-11-22 Thread Peter P.
* Lucas Cordiviola [2022-11-22 15:47]: [...] > Can we switch the discussion back to "How colors should be handled in Pd's > documentation" and sort this out? Thank you Lucarda! Can this be discussed here, or would github be a more suitable place? cheersz, P

Re: [PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

2022-11-21 Thread Peter P.
Alexandre, I am having a hard time reading your last mail to this list because the formatting (or lack thereof) makes it hard to decypher, which lines are quotes and which lines are your own contribution. Please let's keep this discussion short and not annoying. I just want to suggest to get rid

Re: [PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

2022-11-21 Thread Peter P.
Hi Scott, * Scott R. Looney [2022-11-21 06:56]: [...] > i guess there might be considered a Tcl/Tk option to not have/draw colored > backgrounds in any patch window, similar to how one can change the default > canvas background/foreground color currently. I don't think this is a good solution.

Re: [PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

2022-11-20 Thread Peter P.
Hi, * Alexandre Torres Porres [2022-11-21 04:10]: > While we're at it, over my years in the Pd land, the feedback I got the > most was how Pd Vanilla's documentation was so "poor" and "inferior" to, > for instance, Pd-Extended's (not to mention MAX's). Currently Extended is > reincarnated as

Re: [PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

2022-11-20 Thread Peter P.
* Alexandre Torres Porres [2022-11-20 20:52]: > Em dom., 20 de nov. de 2022 às 15:07, José de Abreu > escreveu: > > > Hello all, ok, some thoughts about the topic. > > > > I think it would be nice to have colors with meaningful information, we > > currently don't have those, indeed just a grey

Re: [PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

2022-11-20 Thread Peter P.
* Alexandre Torres Porres [2022-11-20 20:51]: [...] > I think there should be a strong case against it. Hence, please be clear > how you feel about this, if it's just something one "shouldn't complain" or > if it's something we have to better consider. I think a change back to no colors should be

Re: [PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

2022-11-20 Thread Peter P.
Dear Alexandre, * Alexandre Torres Porres [2022-11-19 19:09]: [...] > I don't know what you mean by *new graphical "symbol" object* there is no > "new" one. Correct, I meant the graphical "list" object, created with Ctl+4. [...] > I say this because your point now seems to be that people may

Re: [PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

2022-11-18 Thread Peter P.
Some more replies below inline... * Alexandre Torres Porres [2022-11-18 19:36]: [...] > Now, if you are comparing to other help files from externals, there are no > rules and standards. I actually see many external help files with some > colors of their own, not to mention other formatting

Re: [PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

2022-11-18 Thread Peter P.
* Alexandre Torres Porres [2022-11-18 19:41]: > Of course the help files that are purely "blank" and "white" are the ones > that have no iemguis... Thank you Alexandre, I might not be up to date here, but is a toggle object an iemgui? I think my issue with (in)consistency stems from a

Re: [PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

2022-11-17 Thread Peter P.
* Albert Rafetseder [2022-11-17 12:11]: > Hi, > > > Hi, I just noticed that in 0.53.0 help patches (eg. testtone.pd) some > > GUI objects like toggle or bang appear with grey backgrounds instead of > > the default white ones. Is this a bug or a specific feature of the > > overhauled

[PD] some gui objects with grey background in help patches?

2022-11-17 Thread Peter P.
Hi, I just noticed that in 0.53.0 help patches (eg. testtone.pd) some GUI objects like toggle or bang appear with grey backgrounds instead of the default white ones. Is this a bug or a specific feature of the overhauled documentation? thanks! P ___

Re: [PD] Patch won't open

2022-11-16 Thread Peter P.
Thank you IOhannes, amazing explanation, as always! best, P > On 11/10/22 23:09, Peter P. wrote: > > * IOhannes m zmoelnig [2022-11-10 18:20]: > > > On 11/10/22 17:35, Peter P. wrote: > > > > * IOhannes m zmoelnig [2022-11-10 16:21]: > > > >

Re: [PD] Patch won't open

2022-11-10 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmoelnig [2022-11-10 18:20]: > On 11/10/22 17:35, Peter P. wrote: > > * IOhannes m zmoelnig [2022-11-10 16:21]: > > [...] > > > this in turn was triggered by a gruesome regression in Pd-0.53's iemgui > > Do you mean the now vanilla GUI

Re: [PD] Patch won't open

2022-11-10 Thread Peter P.
* IOhannes m zmoelnig [2022-11-10 16:21]: [...] > this in turn was triggered by a gruesome regression in Pd-0.53's iemgui Do you mean the now vanilla GUI objects once introduced by IEM, or the iemgui external library? best, P ___

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] hidraw v0.1.0 released.

2022-11-03 Thread Peter P.
Great info Albert, Danke! http://puredata.info/docs might be the place to put the mentioned documentation perhaps. best, P * Albert Rafetseder [2022-11-03 10:22]: > > Thanks Lucas! What is the use case compared to existing [hid] externals? > > +1 thank you, a really cool project! > > My

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] hidraw v0.1.0 released.

2022-11-03 Thread Peter P.
Thanks Lucas! What is the use case compared to existing [hid] externals? best, P * Lucas Cordiviola [2022-11-03 02:04]: > Hi all, > > The hidraw external reads raw bytes from hids. > > You can find it on Deken for most OSs. > > You have to build yourself for very old rasperry-pi's or new M1

Re: [PD] midi/latency

2022-10-27 Thread Peter P.
Hi, just to chime in with a third reply from within the Alpenrepublik™: There is the often overlooked latency.pd test patch in 7.stuff/tools which allows you to measure audio roundtrip latency. By doing so you might be able to tell how much of latency is the audio versus the midi part of pd.

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [array-abs] library

2022-10-27 Thread Peter P.
* William Brent [2022-10-26 16:13]: > Hi list, > > I'm not sure if something similar already exists out there, Not vanilla, but just for the record, there is http://deken.puredata.info/library/iem_tab best, P ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list

Re: [PD] PD 0.52 bug ? ... [bang~ driven playback]

2022-10-05 Thread Peter P.
Oliver, can't really comment on your error, but am wondering why you might want to trigger each dsp block separately, especially opening the file from hard disk for each dsp block over and over again? best, P * oliver [2022-10-05 20:50]: > Hi, dear list ! > > I just stumbled upon something

Re: [PD] once again a timbreID question

2022-10-02 Thread Peter P.
* Simon Iten [2022-10-02 22:22]: > hi william and list, > > for a museum-art-installation i will do a kind of audio "social-network" > > basically a visitor can record a 5 second snippet via microphone or bluetooth > and PD saves this snippet as a sample. > > out of this ever growing

Re: [PD] looking for a simple eq

2022-09-26 Thread Peter P.
* Jakob Laue [2022-09-26 18:31]: > Dear list, > I am looking for a simple equalizer abstraction, preferably vanilla, but can > be part of an external library, too! Try hml_shelf~ from iemlib. ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list

Re: [PD] Reading/writing a HID device current best practice?

2022-09-06 Thread Peter P.
* Daniel Iglesia [2022-09-06 19:08]: > I know this isn't the desired answer, but my strategy (a few years ago, on > Raspberry Pi, haven't tried HID since then) was to launch a python script > to listen for HID messages, then route them via UDP into a local port on > which Pd would listen and

Re: [PD] Reading/writing a HID device current best practice?

2022-09-04 Thread Peter P.
Hi Phil, A search on Deken http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries=hid== brings up some results which might depend on the OS you are using. * Philip Stone via Pd-list [2022-09-04 00:14]: > Hello all, > > I’m wondering what the current best course of action is for interfacing with > a

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