Re: [PD] FM matrix with feedback

2016-01-08 Thread Matt Barber
[rpole~] can be a good option depending on the kind of flexibility you need. Why the distaste for [block~] size of 1 if it works? Do you have some pseudocode or a block diagram? That would make it easier to give advice. On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:53 AM, David Medine wrote: >

Re: [PD] FM matrix with feedback

2016-01-08 Thread cyrille henry
Le 08/01/2016 11:16, i go bananas a écrit : i just tried upsampling, but it seems to hit the cpu harder than lowering blocksize, even. my thought was : blocksize 1 AND upsampling (to improve audio quality) upsampling a 64 block size is not interesting (in therm of cpu and quality) and

Re: [PD] FM matrix with feedback

2016-01-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
If you want shorter feedbacks than 64 samples within a patch, there is no way around reducing block size. You may be able to optimize by putting only the very necessary (for the feedback loop) objects into the re-blocked subpatch. Then there are some classes that do internal sample-size

[PD] FM matrix with feedback

2016-01-08 Thread i go bananas
Hi all, hope everyone's well. We're trying to implement a 4-op FM matrix with feedback, copying a patch my friend made in reaktor using a block size of 1 (sorry, don't know the full details of that, but he says he can get 1 sample delay for the feedback) Has anyone ever succeeded doing something

Re: [PD] FM matrix with feedback

2016-01-08 Thread cyrille henry
s~ and r~ only work with 64 sample block, so you can't use them in this situation. but you can replace them using delwrite~ and delread~ with no delay, and force order to write before you read. cheers c Le 08/01/2016 10:42, i go bananas a écrit : Hi all, hope everyone's well. We're trying

Re: [PD] FM matrix with feedback

2016-01-08 Thread cyrille henry
oh, I forget to say that you can also upsample the subpatch in order to reduce the feedback latency. Le 08/01/2016 10:54, cyrille henry a écrit : s~ and r~ only work with 64 sample block, so you can't use them in this situation. but you can replace them using delwrite~ and delread~ with no

Re: [PD] FM matrix with feedback

2016-01-08 Thread i go bananas
i just tried upsampling, but it seems to hit the cpu harder than lowering blocksize, even. and yeah, my friend just got a patch going using delwrite~ and vd~, which we can use at blocksize of 1, and it works... but the hit on the cpu is harsh. really looking for some way to do this at normal 64

[PD] FM matrix with feedback

2016-01-08 Thread William Huston
You may want to look at Martin Brinkmann's patch Chaosmonster1. http://www.martin-brinkmann.de/pd-patches.html I studied it about a year ago, and gave up trying to understand how it works. But it makes fantastic noises. Martin says it "generates noise- and 'chaos'-sounds with six oscillators