Re: [PD] Design / Philosophy principles behind Pd development

2022-01-04 Thread Jérôme Abel
Thanks! The documents highlight by Albert Rafetseder help me to find some answers. From Miller's writing "The Deadly Embrace Between Music Software and Its Users" (http://msp.ucsd.edu/Publications/pdf_EMS14_puckette.pdf), I would synthetise as follow. The three most important criteria in

Re: [PD] Design / Philosophy principles behind Pd development

2022-01-04 Thread João Pais
About the history of Pd, we associate often the design of Pd with Music III - V Max Mathew's program. Could someone validate this, I can't find any screenshots or design principles about Music III - V ? I would say the association is very tenuous, comparing with Csound-type concepts, which

Re: [PD] Design / Philosophy principles behind Pd development

2022-01-04 Thread Andy Farnell
Maybe it was never official credo but Pd seems to have the least backwards-harm while still managing to keep developing. Hi list, > > I wish a f.. good year for the pd community ! > > I will teach some workshops about Pd and I would like to speak about the > design principles behind Pd

Re: [PD] Design / Philosophy principles behind Pd development

2022-01-04 Thread Albert Rafetseder
Hi Jérôme, Likewise! > A pd patch must be run in old computers. Is it related to the choice > of C Language and Tcl TK ? Could be also related to some ecological > vision about new technologies obsolescence and anti-productivism ? What I understand from one of Miller's papers relates (somehow)

Re: [PD] Design / Philosophy principles behind Pd development

2022-01-04 Thread Christof Ressi
Maybe he meant per function :-D On 04.01.2022 14:57, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 13:53 +0100, Jérôme Abel wrote: The number of lines of code must be less than 10 000 ? Where did you get that from? $ cat pd/src/*.c | wc -l 84235 Roman

Re: [PD] Design / Philosophy principles behind Pd development

2022-01-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2022-01-04 at 13:53 +0100, Jérôme Abel wrote: > The number of lines of code must be less than 10 000 ? Where did you get that from? $ cat pd/src/*.c | wc -l 84235 Roman signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___

[PD] Design / Philosophy principles behind Pd development

2022-01-04 Thread Jérôme Abel
Hi list, I wish a f.. good year for the pd community ! I will teach some workshops about Pd and I would like to speak about the design principles behind Pd Development. I remember some but I don't find these anymore. May someone (Miller ?) validate or explain them ? Two principles I