Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Excellent.. I think it's time for test4 :) M On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 09:22:51AM -0500, William Brent wrote: > For me, IOhannes' latest build ( >

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2021-12-14 at 16:04 +0100, Christof Ressi wrote: > Forgot to say: the callback scheduler will not be removed. If it > works > for you, by all means keep using it! Sorry for the alarmist tone, then. 'legacy' sounded to me like 'to be removed in the future'. Roman signature.asc

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2021-12-14 at 15:53 +0100, Christof Ressi wrote: > > That said, I never really understood what 'callbacks' means. > It means that the Pd scheduler runs directly in the audio callback Thanks for your detailed explanation. It all makes sense now, especially why it is not advised to perform

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread Christof Ressi
rate (from JACK) ringbuffer whose size is given by 'delay(ms)', while 'callbacks' means no additional ringbuffer. @IOhannes:  re your request of Pd-JACK-macOS experiences: Probably more interesting are the results with the proposed Pd builds that are candidates for distribution than w

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread Christof Ressi
at said, I never really understood what 'callbacks' means. To me it looks like "polling scheduler" means that Pd maintains its own separate (from JACK) ringbuffer whose size is given by 'delay(ms)', while 'callbacks' means no additional ringbuffer. @IOhannes: re your request of Pd-JACK-

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/14/21 14:45, Christof Ressi wrote: 2. turn on "callbacks" in Pd's audio settings (it seems that this is required on macOS) Are you sure? i'm not sure at all. however, i'm testing mostly with the "dummy" backend (rather than a "real" soundcard-based backend like "coreaudio"), and in

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread William Brent
For me, IOhannes' latest build ( https://git.iem.at/pd/pure-data/-/jobs/33818/artifacts/file/Pd-0.52-0test3-2-g6ca9539f.dmg) and Dan's recent build ( http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/0.52/Pd-0.52-0test3-x86_64-jack.zip) work on Big Sur 11.6.1 *without* callbacks enabled. I've done a lot of work

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
eans that Pd maintains its own separate (from JACK) ringbuffer whose size is given by 'delay(ms)', while 'callbacks' means no additional ringbuffer. @IOhannes: re your request of Pd-JACK-macOS experiences: Probably more interesting are the results with the proposed Pd builds that are candidates fo

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread Christof Ressi
this must be a bug then... I don't see why Jack should only work with "callbacks" enabled. On 14.12.2021 14:51, Csaba Láng wrote: I confirm Jack works on Big Sur with using callback in the audio settings. Thanks for the hint. On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 2:16 PM William Brent wrote: Good

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread Csaba Láng
I confirm Jack works on Big Sur with using callback in the audio settings. Thanks for the hint. On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 2:16 PM William Brent wrote: > Good news - this new build is indeed working for me with JACK 1.9.19 on > Big Sur 11.6.1 (Intel 64bit hardware). I'll update my comment on the

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread Christof Ressi
2. turn on "callbacks" in Pd's audio settings (it seems that this is required on macOS) Are you sure? In my understanding, the "callback scheduler" is generally legacy and usually you would always use the "polling scheduler". (Both the Jack backend and the portaudio backend support both

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread William Brent
Good news - this new build is indeed working for me with JACK 1.9.19 on Big Sur 11.6.1 (Intel 64bit hardware). I'll update my comment on the ticket to document it. Thanks IOhannes! On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 4:37 AM IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > On 12/13/21 22:06, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > > >

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/14/21 13:49, Csaba Láng wrote: Iohannes, I tested jack on Big Sur (11.6.1) but looks like no audio is coming out. [image: Screenshot 2021-12-14 at 13.46.31.png] Output device must be the same as input, I cannot change it in Pd. Portaudio works fine but Jack is without sound. 1. make

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/13/21 22:06, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > > > once it finished building, the dmg will be available on > > could you please be so kind and test with that version as well? my first tests show that

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS (was Re: [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released)

2021-12-13 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 12/13/21 21:20, William Brent wrote: No problem - just posted a comment with all of my info there. Unfortunately, no luck with the iem-ci build on my system either... thanks. this info in the issue was incredibly helpful: > JACK protocol mismatch 8 afaict it tries to tell us that Pd and

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS (was Re: [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released)

2021-12-13 Thread William Brent
No problem - just posted a comment with all of my info there. Unfortunately, no luck with the iem-ci build on my system either... On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:03 AM IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > On 12/13/21 14:56, William Brent wrote: > > > > If I then start Dan's most recent build of test3 > >

[PD] JACK on macOS (was Re: [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released)

2021-12-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/13/21 14:56, William Brent wrote: If I then start Dan's most recent build of test3 (Pd-0.52-0test3-x86_64-jack.app) from this email thread, choosing "jack" from the Media menu results in no error and "pure_data" shows up in the JACK connection graph. thanks for the info. i'm having a