Re: [PD] a multislider GUI as abstraction

2016-06-28 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
> > Have you ever considered upgrading to 0.47? But I do use 0.47, I also said I tried this abstraction first on vanilla ;) 2016-06-28 4:07 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli : > Whatever it is you experienced with Pd-0.43-extended, I call FUD. Never > experienced it myself (whatever

Re: [PD] a multislider GUI as abstraction

2016-06-28 Thread Raphaël Ilias
Hello Derek, Roman and others still reading :) I am really pleased to read your thoughts as they express many issues I have had in mind : Especially what you said about GUIs being probably much easier to implement in a text language than in graphical/dataflow programming language. I have the same

Re: [PD] a multislider GUI as abstraction

2016-06-28 Thread Derek Kwan
Hello, I suppose this response is to no one in particular but I like talking to Alex so I'll reply to him =). As per the abstraction vs externals for gui stuff debate, I have a few general thoughts/observations: At least in my personal experience, I haven't had much luck with GUI abstractions.

Re: [PD] a multislider GUI as abstraction

2016-06-28 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2016-06-27 at 12:41 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > And thus I tried it in Pd-Extended 0.42-5, the one I use, but I still > can't get it to work. Not sure how better it is in 0.43 (which I'm > not installing as it always screws things up in my system) - but it > seems it needs even

Re: [PD] a multislider GUI as abstraction

2016-06-27 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2016-06-27 12:41 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Torres Porres : > From reading the email, seems there are attempts to solve many of the > issues like right clicking and getting into a properties window, which I > think it's impressive and I'd like to see that as I still cannot quite >

Re: [PD] a multislider GUI as abstraction

2016-06-27 Thread cyrille henry
hello, i'm sorry to jump again on this kind of topic, but it's painful to read a mail like that. Le 26/06/2016 23:31, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit : 2016-06-26 16:35 GMT-03:00 IOhannes m zmölnig >: for me this sounds a bit like "i'd love to

Re: [PD] a multislider GUI as abstraction

2016-06-26 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2016-06-26 16:35 GMT-03:00 IOhannes m zmölnig : > for me this sounds a bit like "i'd love to see them as externals totally sound like that :) *so* they can be included in some library" yeah, also like the idea of having it not as a single separate thing > would you care to

Re: [PD] a multislider GUI as abstraction

2016-06-26 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 06/25/2016 05:30 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > I'd love to see them as externals and included > in some library for me this sounds a bit like "i'd love to see them as externals *so* they can be included in some library", which is factually wrong. if i just imagined the inference,

Re: [PD] a multislider GUI as abstraction

2016-06-26 Thread Raphaël Ilias
2016-06-24 22:16 GMT+02:00 Fred Jan Kraan : > Hi Raphaël, > > >> I love pd, but I miss some GUIs, like a good break-points curve editing >> (i am aware about [envgen] but it's buggy inside graph-on-parent), for >> envelopes or dynamic compressor ... >> > > Just today I

Re: [PD] a multislider GUI as abstraction

2016-06-25 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Nice! FWIW, in vanilla you have an array that can be used as a multislider, although it may be difficult to sometimes grab each point. In pd-l2ork you have an option of jump on click inside arrays, and a new mode of drawing arrays with individual bars whose colors can be customized. With

Re: [PD] a multislider GUI as abstraction

2016-06-25 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
2016-06-24 17:38 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli : > I even like them being abstractions as opposed to compiled externals. Quite the opposite here :) I'd love to see them as externals and included in some library - maybe a max clone for cyclone...

Re: [PD] a multislider GUI as abstraction

2016-06-25 Thread j...@jeanmarie-adrien.net
nice ! > Le 24 juin 2016 à 21:22, Raphaël Ilias a écrit : > > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] a multislider GUI as abstraction

2016-06-24 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hey Raphaël Impressive work. I'm all for more advanced GUIs. I even like them being abstractions as opposed to compiled externals. I'm not so concerned about performance, since the GUI runs in a separate thread. I believe it's rather GUIs like arrays that may cause hiccups when they send much

Re: [PD] a multislider GUI as abstraction

2016-06-24 Thread Fred Jan Kraan
Hi Raphaël, I love pd, but I miss some GUIs, like a good break-points curve editing (i am aware about [envgen] but it's buggy inside graph-on-parent), for envelopes or dynamic compressor ... Just today I completed a first reissue of the tof library containing [breakpoints], a derivate of