Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> so one from the new millenium: locking a network ressource (e.g. an gigabit IP-camera that saturates the the network once it's told to start delivering frames). What happens currently if you click in the terminal on a Pd instance that's using that network resource? Is LB_PANIC a public interfac

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-19 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 01/19/2016 10:00 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2016-01-19 00:42, Miller Puckette wrote: >> > OK... the support should be in git > thank you very much. ok. so the new and shiny iemguts-0.2 [1] features both [initbang] and [closebang]. these will magically start working as soon as use Pd>

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-01-19 20:59, Miller Puckette wrote: > Sort of. I think it's a bad idea to go through and close all the windows > (sometimes closing a window takes time) - but just send objects a message > in case they need to get off some resource. i'm not really interesting about "closing windows". wha

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-19 Thread Miller Puckette
Sort of. I think it's a bad idea to go through and close all the windows (sometimes closing a window takes time) - but just send objects a message in case they need to get off some resource. I don't have any examples to hand, except a rather lame one: sending an all-notes-off message to some MIDI

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-19 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 01/19/2016 08:35 PM, Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: >> Next: for people who are trying to close OS resources when Pd quits, I'm > thinking there should be a fourth phase, "LB_PANIC", which objects should > not respond to by passing messages but only closing resources. > What's a situation wh

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> Next: for people who are trying to close OS resources when Pd quits, I'm thinking there should be a fourth phase, "LB_PANIC", which objects should not respond to by passing messages but only closing resources. What's a situation where Pd currently won't close its resources upon quitting? -Jonath

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-19 Thread Andy Farnell
+ 1 Some behaviour congruent with POSIX signals has always been on my wishlist. Those (admittedly rare) occasions when some unrecoverable IO blockage happens it would be nice to rescue the patch. cheers, Andy On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 08:22:13AM -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: > Good, thanks. >

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-19 Thread Miller Puckette
Good, thanks. Next: for people who are trying to close OS resources when Pd quits, I'm thinking there should be a fourth phase, "LB_PANIC", which objects should not respond to by passing messages but only closing resources. cheers Miller On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 02:07:32PM +0100, IOhannes m zmöln

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-19 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 01/19/2016 10:00 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > a first test with iemlib's [init] exhibits triggers on initbang and > loadbang, but not on closebang...i might miss something though found the culprit: canvas_closebang() never gets called when deleting an abstraction. attached patch fixes this

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2016-01-19 00:42, Miller Puckette wrote: > OK... the support should be in git thank you very much. while i find the API very elegant, i have one question: will existing externals with loadbang functionality now start banging three times during their life-cycle? a first test with iemlib's [ini

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-18 Thread Miller Puckette
ang running in vanilla. Should we expect to see this by the next > release? > > From: brbrof...@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 17:00:48 -0500 > Subject: Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla > To: m...@ucsd.edu > CC: jancs...@yahoo.com; liamg...@hotmail.com; pd-list

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-17 Thread Liam Goodacre
Thanks for the positive response here--it will make me extremely happy to have initbang running in vanilla. Should we expect to see this by the next release? From: brbrof...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 17:00:48 -0500 Subject: Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla To: m...@ucsd.edu CC

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-13 Thread Matt Barber
pping the loadbang than starting it. If you > > >> have a patch that dynamically creates itself (or worse deletes > itself) when > > >> loaded, it is very useful to be able to inspect the patch without the > the > > >> process starting. Initbang provides

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-13 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 01/13/2016 10:32 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: > Here's an idea... I could just patch Pd to make it possible for externs to > do that. That wouldn't bother me (I'm horrified by hte design of 'initbang' > but don't mind if someone else is maintaining it :) cool, count me in. please provide possibi

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-13 Thread Miller Puckette
dbang than starting it. If you > >> have a patch that dynamically creates itself (or worse deletes itself) when > >> loaded, it is very useful to be able to inspect the patch without the the > >> process starting. Initbang provides this because it bangs only when the > >

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-12 Thread Matt Barber
be able to inspect the patch without the the >> process starting. Initbang provides this because it bangs only when the >> patch is loaded as an abstraction, not when the patch is opened. >> >> >> > Message: 3 >> > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:41:41 +0100 &

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-11 Thread Matt Barber
it bangs only when the patch is loaded as an abstraction, not > > > when it is opened. This is really useful for dynamic patching. > > > > > > > > > > > >> Message: 3 > > >> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 13:31:36 + (UTC) > > >> From: J

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
> > > >> Message: 3 > >> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 13:31:36 + (UTC) > >> From: Jonathan Wilkes > >> To: Roman Haefeli , "pd-list@lists.iem.at" > >> > >> Subject: Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla > >>

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-11 Thread Liam Goodacre
n the patch is loaded as an abstraction, not when the patch is opened. > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 09:41:41 +0100 > From: Jack > To: pd-list@lists.iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla > Message-ID: <56936ac5.6030...@rybn.org> > Content

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-11 Thread Jack
lly useful for dynamic patching. > > > >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 13:31:36 + (UTC) >> From: Jonathan Wilkes >> To: Roman Haefeli , "pd-list@lists.iem.at" >> >> Subject: Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla >> Messag

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-10 Thread Liam Goodacre
3 > Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 13:31:36 + (UTC) > From: Jonathan Wilkes > To: Roman Haefeli , "pd-list@lists.iem.at" > > Subject: Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla > Message-ID: > <355667468.2920260.1452432696797.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list
They are also in Pd-l2ork. On Sunday, January 10, 2016 6:36 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sun, 2016-01-10 at 09:52 +, Liam Goodacre wrote: > Which libraries are [closebang] and [initbang] in? They don't seem to > load in Vanilla and I can't find the relevant information in the > help

Re: [PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-10 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2016-01-10 at 09:52 +, Liam Goodacre wrote: > Which libraries are [closebang] and [initbang] in? They don't seem to > load in Vanilla and I can't find the relevant information in the > helpfiles so that I can use [declare]. I'm not totally sure, but I believe those are part of the Pd-e

[PD] closebang and initbang in Vanilla

2016-01-10 Thread Liam Goodacre
Which libraries are [closebang] and [initbang] in? They don't seem to load in Vanilla and I can't find the relevant information in the helpfiles so that I can use [declare]. ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list