[PD] Clocks and [pipe] in Lua

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi (Claude), inspired by Matteo's question I briefly tried to implement a [pipe] clone in pdlua, however I ran into problems which might hint at either some design issues with clock support in pdlua or, more likely, my lack of understanding how clocks work. Anyway here's the problem: [pipe] in

Re: [PD] Guitar Heroes controller

2008-03-13 Thread PSPunch
Hans, Is your hardware labeled to be specifically for PS2? At least this one article mentions that the hardware is equal among all platforms. http://www.hwhell.com/articles/gametrak-hardware-review If you are using a generic PS2 - USB converter, it does seem likely that the converter is

Re: [PD] Couldn't creat [gemlist]. Also, how to destroy objects?

2008-03-13 Thread zmoelnig
Quoting Dudley Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks. OK, another dumb question: Puredata.org still has 0.39.3 as the most recent version. Where is the more recent version available, pre-compiled for OSX Intel 10.4 or later? i am trying to push this site as a better announcment medium (it is

Re: [PD] A Few GSoC Project Ideas

2008-03-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 20:24 -0500, Greg Surges wrote: Hi, As a student who is *very* interested in taking part in the PD project under Google Summer of Code, I thought I'd throw a few ideas out and see what other people thought of them. [...] 3. Finally, a set of band-limited

Re: [PD] [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation

2008-03-13 Thread matteo sisti sette
Frank wrote: Why care? [about how efficient pipe is] There's not much you can do about it, if it's too slow, except writing a better [pipe] in C/Lua/etc. Well that's exactly why I need to know: to decide whether I need to write a better [pipe] in Lua or not!! An approach carmen did in the

Re: [PD] Google Summer of Code application is in!

2008-03-13 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 13:09 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I just submitted it with 10 mentors, we should be able to add more mentors if we get accepted as an organization, so it is not too late to join. http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GSoCOrganizationApp2008 I think

Re: [PD] [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation

2008-03-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 10:49 +0100, matteo sisti sette wrote: I think it's a pity that PD Vanilla doesn't include [symbol2list] or any objects capable of breaking symbols a little bit (with which one could build a symbol2list abstraction and maybe more), since it does give the possibility to

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Strings Of Consciousness' newsletter

2008-03-13 Thread Philippe Petit
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Re: [PD] Clocks and [pipe] in Lua

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Claude Heiland-Allen hat gesagt: // Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: inspired by Matteo's question I briefly tried to implement a [pipe] clone in pdlua, however I ran into problems which might hint at either some design issues with clock support in pdlua or, more

Re: [PD] [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, matteo sisti sette hat gesagt: // matteo sisti sette wrote: You may argue that I am reluctant to use an external while I would use pdlua, but one thing is to install an external that solves a specific problem, another thing is to install one single extension mechanism (pdlua) that

Re: [PD] Clocks and [pipe] in Lua

2008-03-13 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Frank Barknecht wrote: Error checking was deliberately left out. ;) In the end I'd like to have the delay time up front to be able to use qlist-ish messages like: 0 a b c, 1000 x y z, 300 bang. Ok, makes sense. However, what should be output for: 0 a b c - a b c or list a b c ? 0 123

Re: [PD] Clocks and [pipe] in Lua

2008-03-13 Thread matteo sisti sette
Something like this probably works (untested...): function M:in_1(sel, atoms) [...] end Ah, a very elegant solution. It's tested now (attached) and seems to work really well. I'll need some time to understand this (have to read some pdlua documentaion, understand clicks, ntm get

Re: [PD] Clocks and [pipe] in Lua

2008-03-13 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
matteo sisti sette wrote: Does this solve/eliminate the problem mentioned by Frank? that is: Yes. My problem is the hypothetical makeclock. It should be a clock that somehow is tied to the event. But as I see it, clocks in pdlua are supposed to be tied to a pdclass object itself, and their

Re: [PD] Clocks and [pipe] in Lua

2008-03-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: Error checking was deliberately left out. ;) In the end I'd like to have the delay time up front to be able to use qlist-ish messages like: 0 a b c, 1000 x y z, 300 bang. Ok, makes sense. However, what should be output for: 0 123 -

Re: [PD] [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation

2008-03-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 14:19 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: I very much agree that pdlua is a wonderful extension (best thing since [list]) that should become one of the standard externals to learn for every Pd user, because it can be used to implement all this missing (message) functionality

Re: [PD] Clocks and [pipe] in Lua

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, matteo sisti sette hat gesagt: // matteo sisti sette wrote: Something like this probably works (untested...): function M:in_1(sel, atoms) [...] end Ah, a very elegant solution. It's tested now (attached) and seems to work really well. I'll need some time to

Re: [PD] A Few GSoC Project Ideas

2008-03-13 Thread Greg Surges
Andy, Hans-Christoph, and everyone else, I've created wikis for the analysis and blosc ideas. I think a major advantage for the analysis library would come from issues of speed. When I've done PD code that does a simple sort on an array (used for a histogram), it takes an incredibly long time -

[PD] inflating PD-Vanilla (was Re: [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation)

2008-03-13 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
I do totally agree that [pdlua] is a great thing and that it would be desirable to have it become part of PD-Vanilla. Nevertheless, Frank Barknecht wrote: Some people may miss [s2l] in vanilla Pd, others miss a [pipe] for variable length lists or a multi-period [metro], a flexible markov

Re: [PD] [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation

2008-03-13 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Roman Haefeli wrote: Some people may miss [s2l] in vanilla Pd, others miss a [pipe] for variable length lists or a multi-period [metro], those can all be done with built-in objects already, as far as i can see (with more or less effort, though). I can't see how you could implement a

Re: [PD] Clocks and [pipe] in Lua

2008-03-13 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Thanks a lot to Claude for the code and to Frank for the line-by-line explanation!!! :)) ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] inflating PD-Vanilla (was Re: [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation)

2008-03-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 17:26 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: I do totally agree that [pdlua] is a great thing and that it would be desirable to have it become part of PD-Vanilla. Nevertheless, Frank Barknecht wrote: Some people may miss [s2l] in vanilla Pd, others miss a [pipe] for

Re: [PD] [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation

2008-03-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 17:40 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: Some people may miss [s2l] in vanilla Pd, others miss a [pipe] for variable length lists or a multi-period [metro], those can all be done with built-in objects already, as far as i can see (with more

Re: [PD] inflating PD-Vanilla (was Re: [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation)

2008-03-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 13, 2008, at 1:36 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 17:26 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: I do totally agree that [pdlua] is a great thing and that it would be desirable to have it become part of PD-Vanilla. Nevertheless, Frank Barknecht wrote: Some people may miss

Re: [PD] A Few GSoC Project Ideas

2008-03-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yup, both sound like worthwhile projects. .hc On Mar 13, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Greg Surges wrote: Andy, Hans-Christoph, and everyone else, I've created wikis for the analysis and blosc ideas. I think a major advantage for the analysis library would come from issues of speed. When I've done

Re: [PD] Guitar Heroes controller

2008-03-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yeah, my hardware is specifally labeled PS2. It has a USB port, it shows up properly like a USB HID device, just no data comes out :( .hc On Mar 13, 2008, at 3:17 AM, PSPunch wrote: Hans, Is your hardware labeled to be specifically for PS2? At least this one article mentions that the

Re: [PD] [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation

2008-03-13 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
the idea is to give each incoming list an ID and send only the ID to the [pipe], where the list itself is stored in some [meta-list]. after receiving the ID from [pipe], you could use it to look up the list in [meta-list]. of course you also need to delete the list from [meta-list] then. I'm

Re: [PD] A Few GSoC Project Ideas

2008-03-13 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: there are already some externals for band-limited oscillators around. search the svn repository for blosc. there is [sqosc~] from mrpeach, which is a bandlimited pulse generrator and there is also a small set of absrtactions in pdmtl:

Re: [PD] [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation

2008-03-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 20:31 +0100, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: the idea is to give each incoming list an ID and send only the ID to the [pipe], where the list itself is stored in some [meta-list]. after receiving the ID from [pipe], you could use it to look up the list in [meta-list]. of

Re: [PD] [almost OT] need suggestions for an implementation

2008-03-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 00:32 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: me too (though it probably takes me while to learn it. i decided to read the 'Programming in Lua' book first before i go to bed and i am only at chapter 5 ;-) haha.. yeah, sure, i read the whole book before going to bed i meant

Re: [PD] UV map - was : Google Summer of Code application is in!

2008-03-13 Thread beau
spherical mapping. I also don't know whether multiple materials are supported or if you can draw groups individually, and how the material is attached to different groups. with obj file format you only get one uv map and 1 texture per object_mesh Not supporting uv maps is a big set back for

[PD] editmode for datastructures

2008-03-13 Thread marius schebella
hi, I guess that is not possible... I am using plot to draw an array, then select the array in editmode and drag it around. is there any possibility to get the new absolute position? I really doubt this is possible... too bad. Btw. I also would like to be able to change the length of a plot,