Re: [PD] a new, better [makefilename] !

2010-08-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: What does sprintf have to do with grids? ah, now it has something to do with grids. introducing [#sprintf], sharing almost all of its code with [gf/sprintf] (and with [gf/error] too) http://gridflow.ca/help/gf/sprintf-help.html

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-13 Thread Koray Tahiroglu
Maemo N900 is another option, as you can run Pd-vanilla and you can compile any external you like ( although we haven't test GEM yet) in the actual device. We are currently fixing the audio and later on we might take a look at some GUI development, but the good thing is, it is the same Pd

Re: [PD] Start patch automatically on bootup with or without monitor (Ubuntu 10.04)

2010-08-13 Thread Ingo Scherzinger
Hi everybody! @ José: Hi, maybe is a lofi solution but works...need a cd... I created an autorun cd on ubuntu...first create an empty file called “autorun” and edit with gedit or wathever That might be a good idea if I had a cd-rom in the box but unfortunately I don't! @ Cyrille depending

Re: [PD] Start patch automatically on bootup with or without monitor (Ubuntu 10.04)

2010-08-13 Thread cyrille henry
Le 13/08/2010 11:46, Ingo Scherzinger a écrit : Hi everybody! @ José: Hi, maybe is a lofi solution but works...need a cd... I created an autorun cd on ubuntu...first create an empty file called “autorun” and edit with gedit or wathever That might be a good idea if I had a cd-rom in the

Re: [PD] Start patch automatically on bootup with or without monitor (Ubuntu 10.04)

2010-08-13 Thread Ingo Scherzinger
is this really important? i mean : if you start ubuntu graphical interface if no screen is pluged, why not starting pd gui? I tried it but the patch didn't start. Ingo Le 13/08/2010 11:46, Ingo Scherzinger a écrit : Hi everybody! @ José: Hi, maybe is a lofi solution but

Re: [PD] Start patch automatically on bootup with or without monitor (Ubuntu 10.04)

2010-08-13 Thread cyrille henry
Le 13/08/2010 12:49, Ingo Scherzinger a écrit : is this really important? i mean : if you start ubuntu graphical interface if no screen is pluged, why not starting pd gui? I tried it but the patch didn't start. maybe you also need to force a screen size. what happen if you plug a screen

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-13 Thread Peter Plessas
Merhaba Koray, that's exciting news! Does Maemo run Pd's GUI too? Do you know if Maemo (that's the OS, right?) will be developed further, I heard it will be merged with MeeGo? Oh, and who is 'we', the people developing it? all the best, Peter On 08/13/2010 09:41 AM, Koray Tahiroglu wrote:

Re: [PD] Start patch automatically on bootup with or without monitor (Ubuntu 10.04)

2010-08-13 Thread Ingo Scherzinger
Hi Cyrille, I guess I did set the screen size but maybe there is some other important information that is missing in the xorg.conf. Here is what my xorg.conf looks like: Section ServerFlags Option BlankTime 0 Option StandbyTime0 Option SuspendTime0

Re: [PD] Start patch automatically on bootup with or without monitor (Ubuntu 10.04)

2010-08-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Ingo Scherzinger wrote: -- Connecting the monitor after booting results in no signal at the monitor output -- That's probably a better question for the Ubuntu forums rather than here... But when you get the answer, post it here ! I've had also such problems of no

Re: [PD] Start patch automatically on bootup with or without monitor (Ubuntu 10.04)

2010-08-13 Thread cyrille henry
hello, here is mine on my laptop (so i have everytime a screen) : but i use same kind of xorg with desktop where instllation can work with / without screen. i declare somes metamode, but this may work only with nvidia driver. c Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen

[PD] exact meaning of netsend outlet

2010-08-13 Thread Peter Plessas
Dear list, wondering what the exact meaning of the outlet of [netreceive] in TCP mode is: Does it indicate whether Pd through the OS was able to open a port or does it indicate if a TCP packet arrived at the destination? And: Am I correct assuming that netsend only outputs a message when it got

Re: [PD] exact meaning of netsend outlet

2010-08-13 Thread martin.peach
wondering what the exact meaning of the outlet of [netreceive] in TCP mode is: Does it indicate whether Pd through the OS was able to open a port The right outlet indicates that the port is open and the other end is listening. or does it indicate if a TCP packet arrived at the

Re: [PD] exact meaning of netsend outlet

2010-08-13 Thread Miller Puckette
HI Peter et al - The netreceive outlet reports the number of netsends currently connected to it. This only gets reported for TCP protocol (UDP doesn't maintain connections). I don't think netsend reports when an outgoing connection gets closed, but this might be possible to add (and I think it

Re: [PD] [FM Discuss] Portuguese translation of the PD manual

2010-08-13 Thread Ildomar Gomes de Carvalho Junior
A tradução não é exclusivamente para pessoas que não compreendem o Inglês, até porquê não tem como fazer um uso pleno do PD sem saber pelo menos ler em inglês. Quando você começa a estudar algo do zero, fica mais fácil se isto está no seu idioma. Isso é algo que até te anima e te adianta algumas

Re: [PD] [FM Discuss] Portuguese translation of the PD manual

2010-08-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Ildomar Gomes de Carvalho Junior wrote: A tradução não é exclusivamente para pessoas que não compreendem o Inglês, It's also a matter of feeling more at home, regardless of actual skill. I want to find a way to translate help patches while keeping track of the changes

Re: [PD] [FM Discuss] Portuguese translation of the PD manual

2010-08-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote: yeah. ok :-) My point was based that we (free software guys) have limited resources. And we (Portuguese speaking free software guys) have a bit less. Is it nice to have lots of translations? Yes. But what is the cost? The cost in Pd is quite

[PD] towards better diff [was: Portuguese translation of the PD manual]

2010-08-13 Thread Pedro Lopes
The day we have meaningful diffs, we can systematise the evolution of pd help file translations, as mistakes are corrected, as details are explained, and as new features are added. Nicely pointed Mathieu, I agreed. Although it is not trivial, its definitely a matter that should be addressed to

Re: [PD] [FM Discuss] Portuguese translation of the PD manual

2010-08-13 Thread Bernardo Barros
Hum, yes. For PD it is a problem indeed. The file format would have separate content from presentation, right? You can have the same program with objects in different places. But to have that you must guarantee that the object location cannot influence the procedures of the program (if a box is on

Re: [PD] pd on ipad with externals

2010-08-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Tcl/Tk should run fine on the N900 since it runs on the N810. Can't say that Pd's GUI is going to be useful on a tiny screen with fat fingers :) .hc On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 14:59 +0200, Peter Plessas wrote: Merhaba Koray, that's exciting news! Does Maemo run Pd's GUI too? Do you know if

Re: [PD] towards better diff [was: Portuguese translation of the PD manual]

2010-08-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
This would be an awesome project for someone to take on. From my point of view, I think the most fruitful place to start is not the .pd text file format, but the visual rendering of that text file. It is how the Pd patch looks that is meaningful, so I think that rendering an image of each

Re: [PD] towards better diff [was: Portuguese translation of the PD manual]

2010-08-13 Thread Pedro Lopes
humm... isn't that the major issue concerning a graphical language like pd? We can try to diff both visual and text elements, but I think what has the most semantical meaning diff-wise should be the text file content. I am trying to think about small example first so I can see the extent of the

Re: [PD] [FM Discuss] Portuguese translation of the PD manual

2010-08-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, João Pais wrote: - but anyway Pd's operating language is (and it will be for much time) english. Since all help files are in english, it's not possible to go beyond a certain level in Pd without coping with this. Do you mean it's not possible to translate help files ?

Re: [PD] towards better diff [was: Portuguese translation of the PD manual]

2010-08-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010, Pedro Lopes wrote: How could pd's file structure could be easily changed to being more diffable? Have you organized any thoughts on that? First I thought about major changes to pd, replacing the object linked list of each canvas, by a std::map structure or anything else

Re: [PD] [FM Discuss] Portuguese translation of the PD manual

2010-08-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote: Hum, yes. For PD it is a problem indeed. The file format would have separate content from presentation, right? Yes and no... there are different things that this idea can mean. the documentation system of GridFlow does separate part of the

Re: [PD] towards better diff [was: Portuguese translation of the PD manual]

2010-08-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It is how the Pd patch looks that is meaningful, so I think that rendering an image of each patch/subpatch then using some kind of visual diff would be a good place to start. There is the Visual Diff feature in desiredata, which blinks a big