Re: [PD] Another interface suggestion

2008-04-02 Thread Ctrl Alt Back
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 01:56:07PM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
 that is actually a problem (or feature) of your window manager.
 at least in kde you can configure it to bring the modal dialog to the 
 foreground (though i keep forgetting where you have to set it)
 it should be possible with whatever window-manager you are using.
Modal windows stay above windows that they are modal for, 
not above other windows to which they are not related, but in this 
case, pd is hiding modal under its own window.  
What is possible - to set Pd above other layers, but then you have pd
console _always_ above all other windows, which is also not ideal.
There is no concept of globally modal windows in openbox, which is 
very much on purpose. 
Fact is, that in other WM it works fine, and while trying to close
unsaved patch i get modal popping up over any other windows, but 
still pd must be requesting something strange for its modal dialog, 
making it a child of a single window which is not the one you're 
working in or something.

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Re: [PD] Another interface suggestion

2008-04-01 Thread Steffen Juul

On 01/04/2008, at 2.24, danomatika wrote:
 Another thing occurred to me as far as ui.  When I'm editing  
 subpatches I sometimes lose the window and have this habit of  
 clicking on the subpatch object in the parent window and when  
 nothing happens, I remember it's already open.  I would be great if  
 pd would bring that open window to the forefront as if it had been  
 selected in the window list.

Thats interesting. It behaves as you'd like on MacOSX. I made a wiki  
pages where we maybe could document those small cross platform  
differences:
http://puredata.info/dev/GUIPlatformDifferences

It kind of glue to the GUI Ideas wiki page: http://puredata.info/dev/ 
GuiIdeas

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Re: [PD] Another interface suggestion

2008-04-01 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Steffen Juul hat gesagt: // Steffen Juul wrote:

 
 On 01/04/2008, at 2.24, danomatika wrote:
  Another thing occurred to me as far as ui.  When I'm editing  
  subpatches I sometimes lose the window and have this habit of  
  clicking on the subpatch object in the parent window and when  
  nothing happens, I remember it's already open.  I would be great if  
  pd would bring that open window to the forefront as if it had been  
  selected in the window list.
 
 Thats interesting. It behaves as you'd like on MacOSX. I made a wiki  
 pages where we maybe could document those small cross platform  
 differences:
 http://puredata.info/dev/GUIPlatformDifferences

Subpatches also come to the front on Linux, when clicking the [pd]
object, at least with Blackbox. Maybe it depends on the window manager
configuration. 

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Re: [PD] Another interface suggestion

2008-04-01 Thread Ctrl Alt Back
Hi,

subpatches are opening on the top in openbox, but file open 
dialog, quit and close confirmation messages are opening on the
top of Pd console. If console is hidden under, is quite 
difficult to find it. It is good habbit to have iconsole on 
eyes anyway, but can imagine how frustrating can be searching 
that little message under lots of openned windows. This brings
people on bad habbit : using all the time Ctrl+Shift+w or 
Ctrl+Shift+q. Dangerous.

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On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 10:49:31AM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
 Hallo,
 Steffen Juul hat gesagt: // Steffen Juul wrote:
 
  
  On 01/04/2008, at 2.24, danomatika wrote:
   Another thing occurred to me as far as ui.  When I'm editing  
   subpatches I sometimes lose the window and have this habit of  
   clicking on the subpatch object in the parent window and when  
   nothing happens, I remember it's already open.  I would be great if  
   pd would bring that open window to the forefront as if it had been  
   selected in the window list.
  
  Thats interesting. It behaves as you'd like on MacOSX. I made a wiki  
  pages where we maybe could document those small cross platform  
  differences:
  http://puredata.info/dev/GUIPlatformDifferences
 
 Subpatches also come to the front on Linux, when clicking the [pd]
 object, at least with Blackbox. Maybe it depends on the window manager
 configuration. 
 
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Re: [PD] Another interface suggestion

2008-04-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Ctrl Alt Back wrote:
 Hi,
 
 subpatches are opening on the top in openbox, but file open 
 dialog, quit and close confirmation messages are opening on the
 top of Pd console. If console is hidden under, is quite 
 difficult to find it. 

that is actually a problem (or feature) of your window manager.
at least in kde you can configure it to bring the modal dialog to the 
foreground (though i keep forgetting where you have to set it)
it should be possible with whatever window-manager you are using.

fgmasdr
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] Another interface suggestion

2008-04-01 Thread Patrice Colet
Ctrl Alt Back a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 subpatches are opening on the top in openbox, but file open 
 dialog, quit and close confirmation messages are opening on the
 top of Pd console. If console is hidden under, is quite 
 difficult to find it. It is good habbit to have iconsole on 
 eyes anyway, but can imagine how frustrating can be searching 
 that little message under lots of openned windows. This brings
 people on bad habbit : using all the time Ctrl+Shift+w or 
 Ctrl+Shift+q. Dangerous.
 
 CtrlAltBack

Hello, there is also Alt+tab,

  but yeah it's quite annoying, a patch browser would resolve this 
problem, we wouldn't have to use the dialog boxes and would be able to 
navigate through parents and children patchers.

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[PD] Another interface suggestion

2008-03-31 Thread danomatika
Another thing occurred to me as far as ui.  When I'm editing subpatches
I sometimes lose the window and have this habit of clicking on the
subpatch object in the parent window and when nothing happens, I
remember it's already open.  I would be great if pd would bring that
open window to the forefront as if it had been selected in the window
list.

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