Re: [PD] pd t-shirts for symposium

2011-07-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, ronni montoya wrote:


Hi guys, are you going to sell pd tshirt for this symposium?


I still a pile of tshirts to sell from the 2007 (2nd) convention... :)

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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-08-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


I think you'll have to bug the PdCon MTL and pdgraz people to get those 
numbers.  You can count on me to order at least two.  And make sure you 
have enough womens' sizes too (i.e. small, xs, etc.)  At PdCon MTL they 
ran out of the women's sizes first.


.hc

harris_pil...@gmx.de wrote:
all in all about how many tshirts are we talking? my first guess would 
have been 150 tshirts... but i really cant tell. one should consider 
that there might be extra tshirts for the us. are there any figures 
from previous editions?


up to now i saw the orange tshirt with black printing on it. i like 
that. how about including some alternatives for the new shirts?


greetings, especially to the people in brazil, have a nice time,

max

Am 27.07.2009 um 04:34 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:



Hey there from Brasil!   Yeah, t-shirts would be great, there are 
many people who want them.  They didn't make enough for the 
conference, so there are probably people here who would also be 
interested.


.hc

harris_pil...@gmx.de wrote:

hi there,

is anybody still into the tshirt thing? i think i could help with 
the printing. i'm not good at thinking of designs though. bang-until 
was quite common-sense - afaik there hasnt been lot response on that!?
i wanted to bring up the topic again  - basically because i want a 
pd-tshirt too :)

cheers
Am 06.04.2009 um 06:23 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:



I like the DIY way.  It would be great if people organized their 
own fundraisers and bounties.  I think that fits in well with the 
anarchic nature of Pd.


There are things like cafepress.com for t-shirts and the like.  It 
is more expensive than doing it yourself, probably, but its 
easier.  It would be nice to see more than one Pd t-shirt 
available.  I'd like bang-until and that cake, for example.


.hc


On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Ben Baker-Smith wrote:


Thanks Kyle,

That's much more in line with what I'm looking to do.  I also cannot
afford to go to PdCon given that it's all the way in Brazil, and I'm
sure the majority of Pd users are in the same boat.  A documentation
bounty seems like a good way to encourage people to document, and 
give

them a way of justifying their time.  And, I agree, probably more
worthwhile than paying half of one person's ticket to Sao Paulo.

In regards to designs, and printing:

I'm thinking it might be cheapest (allowing more money to be raised)
for me to print the shirts myself.. I just need to come up with a
solid price estimate in the next couple days.  Also, this seems more
in line with the do-it-yourself attitude of Pd than, say, e-mailing a
.Gif file to an internet service and letting it all go through them.

I have  couple designs I've drawn up myself, and a few have been
submitted to me via this list.  So, hopefully by the end of the
weekend, I will upload them to my site and post a link on the list 
for

feedback.

-Ben

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Kyle Klipowicz 
kylek...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I agree that the fund should be for a documentation bounty.
I think that Ben (or whoever makes the shirts) should hold the 
money in
trust. Perhaps set up an interest-bearing account to save the 
cash in. Then
create a well-documented (pun?) bounty description of what key 
features are

to be implemented and the financial payment for each.
You could do micropayments for key help patches or examples, say 
$20 US
each, or a big bounty for larger sections such as re-organizing 
existing
patches into a tidy intro library for new uses, with ready-mades 
to go.
I think this would be a longer lasting value than paying for 
Pd-con. I'd
love to go myself, but probably cannot afford it...but I'd rather 
see some
solid documentation be built...or have the financial incentive to 
do it!

(Not a capitalist, just a hungry belly).
~Kyle

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Ben Baker-Smith 
bbakersm...@gmail.com

wrote:


I'm open to the idea of donating proceeds to PdCon.  But, having 
never

been, I have some clarifying questions/concerns.

I would really prefer that any money from sales went toward
documentation, which in turn will increase useability and make 
PD more

accessible to new users.  Does the convention encourage/promote
documentation?  Is time spent at the convention trying to 
increase the

existing body of literature?

If so, then I'm all for it.  I just don't want to settle on 
PdCon if

it's only useful to attendees.  (of course, I understand that in a
good open-source community knowledge gained by any members 
contributes

in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more
formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list)

Glad to hear the interest.  I'm still looking into the best way 
to go

about printing, selling, and distributing.
If someone wants to partner up on this I'd be happy for the help 
and

added input.

-Ben



On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Castonguay
acastong...@artengine.ca wrote:

Hi Ben, all,

We did the last batch of t's 

Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-07-28 Thread harris_pilton
all in all about how many tshirts are we talking? my first guess would  
have been 150 tshirts... but i really cant tell. one should consider  
that there might be extra tshirts for the us. are there any figures  
from previous editions?


up to now i saw the orange tshirt with black printing on it. i like  
that. how about including some alternatives for the new shirts?


greetings, especially to the people in brazil, have a nice time,

max

Am 27.07.2009 um 04:34 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:



Hey there from Brasil!   Yeah, t-shirts would be great, there are  
many people who want them.  They didn't make enough for the  
conference, so there are probably people here who would also be  
interested.


.hc

harris_pil...@gmx.de wrote:

hi there,

is anybody still into the tshirt thing? i think i could help with  
the printing. i'm not good at thinking of designs though. bang- 
until was quite common-sense - afaik there hasnt been lot response  
on that!?
i wanted to bring up the topic again  - basically because i want a  
pd-tshirt too :)

cheers
Am 06.04.2009 um 06:23 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:



I like the DIY way.  It would be great if people organized their  
own fundraisers and bounties.  I think that fits in well with the  
anarchic nature of Pd.


There are things like cafepress.com for t-shirts and the like.  It  
is more expensive than doing it yourself, probably, but its  
easier.  It would be nice to see more than one Pd t-shirt  
available.  I'd like bang-until and that cake, for example.


.hc


On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Ben Baker-Smith wrote:


Thanks Kyle,

That's much more in line with what I'm looking to do.  I also  
cannot
afford to go to PdCon given that it's all the way in Brazil, and  
I'm
sure the majority of Pd users are in the same boat.  A  
documentation
bounty seems like a good way to encourage people to document, and  
give

them a way of justifying their time.  And, I agree, probably more
worthwhile than paying half of one person's ticket to Sao Paulo.

In regards to designs, and printing:

I'm thinking it might be cheapest (allowing more money to be  
raised)

for me to print the shirts myself.. I just need to come up with a
solid price estimate in the next couple days.  Also, this seems  
more
in line with the do-it-yourself attitude of Pd than, say, e- 
mailing a
.Gif file to an internet service and letting it all go through  
them.


I have  couple designs I've drawn up myself, and a few have been
submitted to me via this list.  So, hopefully by the end of the
weekend, I will upload them to my site and post a link on the  
list for

feedback.

-Ben

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Kyle Klipowicz  
kylek...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, I agree that the fund should be for a documentation bounty.
I think that Ben (or whoever makes the shirts) should hold the  
money in
trust. Perhaps set up an interest-bearing account to save the  
cash in. Then
create a well-documented (pun?) bounty description of what key  
features are

to be implemented and the financial payment for each.
You could do micropayments for key help patches or examples, say  
$20 US
each, or a big bounty for larger sections such as re-organizing  
existing
patches into a tidy intro library for new uses, with ready-mades  
to go.
I think this would be a longer lasting value than paying for Pd- 
con. I'd
love to go myself, but probably cannot afford it...but I'd  
rather see some
solid documentation be built...or have the financial incentive  
to do it!

(Not a capitalist, just a hungry belly).
~Kyle

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.com 


wrote:


I'm open to the idea of donating proceeds to PdCon.  But,  
having never

been, I have some clarifying questions/concerns.

I would really prefer that any money from sales went toward
documentation, which in turn will increase useability and make  
PD more

accessible to new users.  Does the convention encourage/promote
documentation?  Is time spent at the convention trying to  
increase the

existing body of literature?

If so, then I'm all for it.  I just don't want to settle on  
PdCon if
it's only useful to attendees.  (of course, I understand that  
in a
good open-source community knowledge gained by any members  
contributes

in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more
formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list)

Glad to hear the interest.  I'm still looking into the best way  
to go

about printing, selling, and distributing.
If someone wants to partner up on this I'd be happy for the  
help and

added input.

-Ben



On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Castonguay
acastong...@artengine.ca wrote:

Hi Ben, all,

We did the last batch of t's as a fundraiser for the  
Convention in
Montréal.  We managed to pay for another 1/2 plane ticket with  
the

proceeds :-).  Maybe the same could be done for São Paulo?

The super folks from Graz sent the file they used for the  

Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


I like the DIY way.  It would be great if people organized their own  
fundraisers and bounties.  I think that fits in well with the anarchic  
nature of Pd.


There are things like cafepress.com for t-shirts and the like.  It is  
more expensive than doing it yourself, probably, but its easier.  It  
would be nice to see more than one Pd t-shirt available.  I'd like  
bang-until and that cake, for example.


.hc


On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Ben Baker-Smith wrote:


Thanks Kyle,

That's much more in line with what I'm looking to do.  I also cannot
afford to go to PdCon given that it's all the way in Brazil, and I'm
sure the majority of Pd users are in the same boat.  A documentation
bounty seems like a good way to encourage people to document, and give
them a way of justifying their time.  And, I agree, probably more
worthwhile than paying half of one person's ticket to Sao Paulo.

In regards to designs, and printing:

I'm thinking it might be cheapest (allowing more money to be raised)
for me to print the shirts myself.. I just need to come up with a
solid price estimate in the next couple days.  Also, this seems more
in line with the do-it-yourself attitude of Pd than, say, e-mailing a
.Gif file to an internet service and letting it all go through them.

I have  couple designs I've drawn up myself, and a few have been
submitted to me via this list.  So, hopefully by the end of the
weekend, I will upload them to my site and post a link on the list for
feedback.

-Ben

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com  
wrote:

Yes, I agree that the fund should be for a documentation bounty.
I think that Ben (or whoever makes the shirts) should hold the  
money in
trust. Perhaps set up an interest-bearing account to save the cash  
in. Then
create a well-documented (pun?) bounty description of what key  
features are

to be implemented and the financial payment for each.
You could do micropayments for key help patches or examples, say  
$20 US
each, or a big bounty for larger sections such as re-organizing  
existing
patches into a tidy intro library for new uses, with ready-mades to  
go.
I think this would be a longer lasting value than paying for Pd- 
con. I'd
love to go myself, but probably cannot afford it...but I'd rather  
see some
solid documentation be built...or have the financial incentive to  
do it!

(Not a capitalist, just a hungry belly).
~Kyle

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.com 


wrote:


I'm open to the idea of donating proceeds to PdCon.  But, having  
never

been, I have some clarifying questions/concerns.

I would really prefer that any money from sales went toward
documentation, which in turn will increase useability and make PD  
more

accessible to new users.  Does the convention encourage/promote
documentation?  Is time spent at the convention trying to increase  
the

existing body of literature?

If so, then I'm all for it.  I just don't want to settle on PdCon if
it's only useful to attendees.  (of course, I understand that in a
good open-source community knowledge gained by any members  
contributes

in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more
formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list)

Glad to hear the interest.  I'm still looking into the best way to  
go

about printing, selling, and distributing.
If someone wants to partner up on this I'd be happy for the help and
added input.

-Ben



On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Castonguay
acastong...@artengine.ca wrote:

Hi Ben, all,

We did the last batch of t's as a fundraiser for the Convention in
Montréal.  We managed to pay for another 1/2 plane ticket with the
proceeds :-).  Maybe the same could be done for São Paulo?

The super folks from Graz sent the file they used for the  
original t's I

should still have it if you want.

À bientôt,

Alexandre




Hello List,

I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts.  I  
haven't

totally worked out the logistics.  Basically I was inspired by the
[Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer  
available

as far as I can tell.

Anyway, if I did so, I would like to donate all of the proceeds  
toward

further PD development, specifically documentation of poorly
documented objects (or example patches, which is basically the  
same

thing).

How do you all think would be the best way of going about this?

Should I stockpile the money and then offer it to someone as a  
sort of
grant?  That's less than ideal in my opinion.  I really don't  
know how

to go about this.

Any/all input is welcome

-Ben

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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-04 Thread Derek Holzer
Vincent, that rocks! Do you think we could get permission to use it as 
the cover for the Pd FLOSS Manual?


D.

Vincent Rioux wrote:

in a different style, with the hope that using pd will soon become a
piece of cake...

http://vincentrioux.net/images/pdiece_of_cake.jpg

cake-design by Melinda Sipos  2006/11

best regards,
vincent
 
Derek Holzer a écrit :

If you made one like this:

http://www.avhc.es/pato/pics/computermusic.gif

I'd buy it.

Design by Ruben Patino.

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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-04 Thread hard off
yeah! that cake is awesome!!!

how did it taste?
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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-02 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Yes, I agree that the fund should be for a documentation bounty.
I think that Ben (or whoever makes the shirts) should hold the money in
trust. Perhaps set up an interest-bearing account to save the cash in. Then
create a well-documented (pun?) bounty description of what key features are
to be implemented and the financial payment for each.
You could do micropayments for key help patches or examples, say $20 US
each, or a big bounty for larger sections such as re-organizing existing
patches into a tidy intro library for new uses, with ready-mades to go.

I think this would be a longer lasting value than paying for Pd-con. I'd
love to go myself, but probably cannot afford it...but I'd rather see some
solid documentation be built...or have the financial incentive to do it!
(Not a capitalist, just a hungry belly).

~Kyle

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm open to the idea of donating proceeds to PdCon.  But, having never
 been, I have some clarifying questions/concerns.

 I would really prefer that any money from sales went toward
 documentation, which in turn will increase useability and make PD more
 accessible to new users.  Does the convention encourage/promote
 documentation?  Is time spent at the convention trying to increase the
 existing body of literature?

 If so, then I'm all for it.  I just don't want to settle on PdCon if
 it's only useful to attendees.  (of course, I understand that in a
 good open-source community knowledge gained by any members contributes
 in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more
 formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list)

 Glad to hear the interest.  I'm still looking into the best way to go
 about printing, selling, and distributing.
 If someone wants to partner up on this I'd be happy for the help and
 added input.

 -Ben



 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Castonguay
 acastong...@artengine.ca wrote:
  Hi Ben, all,
 
  We did the last batch of t's as a fundraiser for the Convention in
  Montréal.  We managed to pay for another 1/2 plane ticket with the
  proceeds :-).  Maybe the same could be done for São Paulo?
 
  The super folks from Graz sent the file they used for the original t's I
  should still have it if you want.
 
  À bientôt,
 
  Alexandre
 
 
 
  Hello List,
 
  I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts.  I haven't
  totally worked out the logistics.  Basically I was inspired by the
  [Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer available
  as far as I can tell.
 
  Anyway, if I did so, I would like to donate all of the proceeds toward
  further PD development, specifically documentation of poorly
  documented objects (or example patches, which is basically the same
  thing).
 
  How do you all think would be the best way of going about this?
 
  Should I stockpile the money and then offer it to someone as a sort of
  grant?  That's less than ideal in my opinion.  I really don't know how
  to go about this.
 
  Any/all input is welcome
 
  -Ben
 
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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-02 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
Thanks Kyle,

That's much more in line with what I'm looking to do.  I also cannot
afford to go to PdCon given that it's all the way in Brazil, and I'm
sure the majority of Pd users are in the same boat.  A documentation
bounty seems like a good way to encourage people to document, and give
them a way of justifying their time.  And, I agree, probably more
worthwhile than paying half of one person's ticket to Sao Paulo.

In regards to designs, and printing:

I'm thinking it might be cheapest (allowing more money to be raised)
for me to print the shirts myself.. I just need to come up with a
solid price estimate in the next couple days.  Also, this seems more
in line with the do-it-yourself attitude of Pd than, say, e-mailing a
.Gif file to an internet service and letting it all go through them.

I have  couple designs I've drawn up myself, and a few have been
submitted to me via this list.  So, hopefully by the end of the
weekend, I will upload them to my site and post a link on the list for
feedback.

-Ben

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I agree that the fund should be for a documentation bounty.
 I think that Ben (or whoever makes the shirts) should hold the money in
 trust. Perhaps set up an interest-bearing account to save the cash in. Then
 create a well-documented (pun?) bounty description of what key features are
 to be implemented and the financial payment for each.
 You could do micropayments for key help patches or examples, say $20 US
 each, or a big bounty for larger sections such as re-organizing existing
 patches into a tidy intro library for new uses, with ready-mades to go.
 I think this would be a longer lasting value than paying for Pd-con. I'd
 love to go myself, but probably cannot afford it...but I'd rather see some
 solid documentation be built...or have the financial incentive to do it!
 (Not a capitalist, just a hungry belly).
 ~Kyle

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I'm open to the idea of donating proceeds to PdCon.  But, having never
 been, I have some clarifying questions/concerns.

 I would really prefer that any money from sales went toward
 documentation, which in turn will increase useability and make PD more
 accessible to new users.  Does the convention encourage/promote
 documentation?  Is time spent at the convention trying to increase the
 existing body of literature?

 If so, then I'm all for it.  I just don't want to settle on PdCon if
 it's only useful to attendees.  (of course, I understand that in a
 good open-source community knowledge gained by any members contributes
 in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more
 formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list)

 Glad to hear the interest.  I'm still looking into the best way to go
 about printing, selling, and distributing.
 If someone wants to partner up on this I'd be happy for the help and
 added input.

 -Ben



 On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Castonguay
 acastong...@artengine.ca wrote:
  Hi Ben, all,
 
  We did the last batch of t's as a fundraiser for the Convention in
  Montréal.  We managed to pay for another 1/2 plane ticket with the
  proceeds :-).  Maybe the same could be done for São Paulo?
 
  The super folks from Graz sent the file they used for the original t's I
  should still have it if you want.
 
  À bientôt,
 
  Alexandre
 
 
 
  Hello List,
 
  I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts.  I haven't
  totally worked out the logistics.  Basically I was inspired by the
  [Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer available
  as far as I can tell.
 
  Anyway, if I did so, I would like to donate all of the proceeds toward
  further PD development, specifically documentation of poorly
  documented objects (or example patches, which is basically the same
  thing).
 
  How do you all think would be the best way of going about this?
 
  Should I stockpile the money and then offer it to someone as a sort of
  grant?  That's less than ideal in my opinion.  I really don't know how
  to go about this.
 
  Any/all input is welcome
 
  -Ben
 
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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-02 Thread Ichabod
It would be cool if the design were an actual patch, kind of like
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/06/29/maxmsp-and-circuit-bending-t-shirts/(but
a superior Pd version).  What would be really great would be if people
could submit their own patches and have shirts made from them.  I'm sure
this would be way too much of a hassle, but I can dream.

Otherwise, I like hardoff's bang-until idea, or a rendition of 4'33 going
into a [writesf~] (if you entertain fantasies of being sued by the Cage
estate).

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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-02 Thread Mike McGonagle
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Ichabod icha...@gmail.com wrote:
 It would be cool if the design were an actual patch, kind of like
 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/06/29/maxmsp-and-circuit-bending-t-shirts/
 (but a superior Pd version).  What would be really great would be if people
 could submit their own patches and have shirts made from them.  I'm sure
 this would be way too much of a hassle, but I can dream.

 Otherwise, I like hardoff's bang-until idea, or a rendition of 4'33 going
 into a [writesf~] (if you entertain fantasies of being sued by the Cage
 estate).

It is ironic that you have to license the score to a piece of music
that you don't even really have to perform...


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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-01 Thread Derek Holzer

If you made one like this:

http://www.avhc.es/pato/pics/computermusic.gif

I'd buy it.

Design by Ruben Patino.

D.

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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig

Ben Baker-Smith wrote:

Hello List,

I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts.  I haven't
totally worked out the logistics.  Basically I was inspired by the
[Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer available
as far as I can tell.



actually i think some of them (that is: the 2nd generation for oldskool 
foks with [pd 0.40] on the back) are still available.
at least o have 3 of them lying around here in my office (2 t-shirts; 
one is orange, the other dark-green; and a hooded shirt in orange; all 
of them are small). so if anybody want's to drop by they can get them 
(i don't do oversea transportation these days).


more interesting is probably the web-shop at http://kug.mur.at (go to 
auslage/shop, select wear, select KiG! (who appear to be authors 
of the shirt for whatever reason) and buy). still no paypal or other neo 
liberal hyper capitalist fuzz.


fmadf.,
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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-01 Thread hard off
that's kind of cool, because it makes absolutely no sense when you look up
close.



On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote:

 make this into a shirt:



 Am 01.04.2009 um 09:05 schrieb Derek Holzer:

  If you made one like this:

 http://www.avhc.es/pato/pics/computermusic.gif

 I'd buy it.

 Design by Ruben Patino.

 D.

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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-01 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
Aw man, I'd love to pick one of those up.  You're in Germany though,
huh?  That's gonna make stopping by difficult.

Oh well.

That link was dead so I wasn't able to check out the web-shop.

-Ben

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:43 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
 Ben Baker-Smith wrote:

 Hello List,

 I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts.  I haven't
 totally worked out the logistics.  Basically I was inspired by the
 [Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer available
 as far as I can tell.


 actually i think some of them (that is: the 2nd generation for oldskool foks
 with [pd 0.40] on the back) are still available.
 at least o have 3 of them lying around here in my office (2 t-shirts; one is
 orange, the other dark-green; and a hooded shirt in orange; all of them are
 small). so if anybody want's to drop by they can get them (i don't do
 oversea transportation these days).

 more interesting is probably the web-shop at http://kug.mur.at (go to
 auslage/shop, select wear, select KiG! (who appear to be authors of
 the shirt for whatever reason) and buy). still no paypal or other neo
 liberal hyper capitalist fuzz.

 fmadf.,
 IOhannes


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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig

Ben Baker-Smith wrote:

Aw man, I'd love to pick one of those up.  You're in Germany though,
huh?  


ähm, .at stands for austria (which is a small country near germany and 
not to be confused with australia)



That's gonna make stopping by difficult.


i guess austria doesn't make it any easier (nor more difficult)



Oh well.

That link was dead so I wasn't able to check out the web-shop.


ah sorry, it should read http://kig.mur.at


fmgadsr.
IOhannes



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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-01 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
I'm open to the idea of donating proceeds to PdCon.  But, having never
been, I have some clarifying questions/concerns.

I would really prefer that any money from sales went toward
documentation, which in turn will increase useability and make PD more
accessible to new users.  Does the convention encourage/promote
documentation?  Is time spent at the convention trying to increase the
existing body of literature?

If so, then I'm all for it.  I just don't want to settle on PdCon if
it's only useful to attendees.  (of course, I understand that in a
good open-source community knowledge gained by any members contributes
in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more
formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list)

Glad to hear the interest.  I'm still looking into the best way to go
about printing, selling, and distributing.
If someone wants to partner up on this I'd be happy for the help and
added input.

-Ben



On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Castonguay
acastong...@artengine.ca wrote:
 Hi Ben, all,

 We did the last batch of t's as a fundraiser for the Convention in
 Montréal.  We managed to pay for another 1/2 plane ticket with the
 proceeds :-).  Maybe the same could be done for São Paulo?

 The super folks from Graz sent the file they used for the original t's I
 should still have it if you want.

 À bientôt,

 Alexandre



 Hello List,

 I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts.  I haven't
 totally worked out the logistics.  Basically I was inspired by the
 [Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer available
 as far as I can tell.

 Anyway, if I did so, I would like to donate all of the proceeds toward
 further PD development, specifically documentation of poorly
 documented objects (or example patches, which is basically the same
 thing).

 How do you all think would be the best way of going about this?

 Should I stockpile the money and then offer it to someone as a sort of
 grant?  That's less than ideal in my opinion.  I really don't know how
 to go about this.

 Any/all input is welcome

 -Ben

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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-01 Thread Ben Baker-Smith
My mistake.

Thanks for the updated link.

-Ben

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:29 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
 Ben Baker-Smith wrote:

 Aw man, I'd love to pick one of those up.  You're in Germany though,
 huh?

 ähm, .at stands for austria (which is a small country near germany and not
 to be confused with australia)

 That's gonna make stopping by difficult.

 i guess austria doesn't make it any easier (nor more difficult)


 Oh well.

 That link was dead so I wasn't able to check out the web-shop.

 ah sorry, it should read http://kig.mur.at


 fmgadsr.
 IOhannes



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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-04-01 Thread Steffen Juul


On 01/04/2009, at 16.34, Ben Baker-Smith wrote:


I just don't want to settle on PdCon if
it's only useful to attendees.  (of course, I understand that in a
good open-source community knowledge gained by any members contributes
in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more
formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list)


I guess at least the papers and similar will be posted online. Maybe  
there will even be printed a proceeding. So i think your fairly safe.  
Also i don't think you have any other option.


Great idea. Have you got a design ready?


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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-03-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner


Sounds like a great idea!  And some people have been asking me for t- 
shirts.  I have been thinking of a similar thing for Pd-extended.  I  
think the easiest way to handle this would be to set up some kind of  
fund for the PdConvention.  Then who ever is running the Pd Convention  
would get the funds for the convention.  The funds could be used for  
sponsoring travel, hosting people, food at the conference, space  
rental, etc.


I guess the tricky part is where to collect the money.  We've talked  
about this in the past, it shouldn't get too bogged down in the  
possibilities.  For example, I think it would be ok to have a paypal  
account that a couple people had access too.  It could be something  
like don...@puredata.info.


.hc

On Mar 31, 2009, at 10:10 PM, Ben Baker-Smith wrote:


Hello List,

I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts.  I haven't
totally worked out the logistics.  Basically I was inspired by the
[Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer available
as far as I can tell.

Anyway, if I did so, I would like to donate all of the proceeds toward
further PD development, specifically documentation of poorly
documented objects (or example patches, which is basically the same
thing).

How do you all think would be the best way of going about this?

Should I stockpile the money and then offer it to someone as a sort of
grant?  That's less than ideal in my opinion.  I really don't know how
to go about this.

Any/all input is welcome

-Ben

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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-03-31 Thread Alexandre Castonguay
Hi Ben, all,

We did the last batch of t's as a fundraiser for the Convention in
Montréal.  We managed to pay for another 1/2 plane ticket with the
proceeds :-).  Maybe the same could be done for São Paulo?

The super folks from Graz sent the file they used for the original t's I
should still have it if you want.

À bientôt,

Alexandre



 Hello List,

 I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts.  I haven't
 totally worked out the logistics.  Basically I was inspired by the
 [Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer available
 as far as I can tell.

 Anyway, if I did so, I would like to donate all of the proceeds toward
 further PD development, specifically documentation of poorly
 documented objects (or example patches, which is basically the same
 thing).

 How do you all think would be the best way of going about this?

 Should I stockpile the money and then offer it to someone as a sort of
 grant?  That's less than ideal in my opinion.  I really don't know how
 to go about this.

 Any/all input is welcome

 -Ben

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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-03-31 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Ben Baker-Smith wrote:

I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts.  I haven't 
totally worked out the logistics.  Basically I was inspired by the 
[Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer available 
as far as I can tell.


Yes, as far as I know, the 2004 batch made in Graz sold out in 2004, and 
the 2006 batch made in Ottawa sold out in 2006. The latter batch had the 
same front, but the back is not printed, only had t-shirts, and had 
different colours.


I heard that there is still a good number of t-shirts from the 2007 batch 
made in Montréal. Those are different, as they feature an excerpt of H-C 
Steiner's Solitude DS score, used as the logo of the 2007 convention. I 
think that there is some more leftover merchandise as well.


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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts

2009-03-31 Thread hard off
please please please,

make one with:

[bang(
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