Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-09 Thread cyrille henry
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : On Apr 8, 2009, at 5:59 AM, cyrille henry wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Inside of the objects themselves, I use always the [mapping/reverse] form. Only in the help patches do I use the [reverse] form. That convention seemed to make sense at

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-09 Thread cyrille henry
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : ... If there is good code out there, I want to use it, not reinvent it. having a complex abstraction to replace this : loadbang $1 moses 0 is overkill. it add complexity to a simple patch. If you use mapping in Pd-extended, you never need to know

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
cyrille henry wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : ... If there is good code out there, I want to use it, not reinvent it. having a complex abstraction to replace this : loadbang $1 moses 0 shouldn't that be [select 0] rather than [moses 0] ? mfgasd.r IOhannes smime.p7s

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-09 Thread cyrille henry
moses 0 filter also negative arguments, they usually are unwanted. but of course sel 0 is used the rest of the time. c IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : cyrille henry wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : ... If there is good code out there, I want to use it, not reinvent it. having a

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 9, 2009, at 2:33 AM, cyrille henry wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : On Apr 8, 2009, at 5:59 AM, cyrille henry wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Inside of the objects themselves, I use always the [mapping/ reverse] form. Only in the help patches do I use the

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-08 Thread cyrille henry
Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes, there is some absurdity to this conversation. I guess Frank and I have been doing this for so long, its just part of a game we play ;-) Anyway, I could give the instructions in one

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 8, 2009, at 5:35 AM, cyrille henry wrote: Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes, there is some absurdity to this conversation. I guess Frank and I have been doing this for so long, its just part of a game we play

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 8, 2009, at 5:59 AM, cyrille henry wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Inside of the objects themselves, I use always the [mapping/ reverse] form. Only in the help patches do I use the [reverse] form. That convention seemed to make sense at the time, but I am not married

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:54 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You cheat a bit here: svn co whereverlibdiris; make libdir, and I don't know, if help-files in mapping work then - with just your sets they won't. And you still

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Luckily the solution is simple: svn update. Sounds like you are working with an old copy. The folder externals/mapping/help should be gone, all the help patches in externals/mapping, and there should be a

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 8, 2009, at 5:35 AM, cyrille henry wrote: i think for this specific lib, any dependency of object outside it's directory can be seen as a bug. I don't understand this at all. Why did every modern operating

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 8, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 8, 2009, at 5:35 AM, cyrille henry wrote: i think for this specific lib, any dependency of object outside it's directory can be seen as a bug. I don't

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-07 Thread Luigi
Hey List. not wanting to offend anybody. But this has some good amount of absurdity in it, i think. And for any Newbie following that its actually quite frightening. Frank calls his way of doing hell and it only includes 3 steps. And Hans Christoph calls his way easy and it includes 10 steps

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-07 Thread cyrille henry
Luigi a écrit : Hey List. not wanting to offend anybody. But this has some good amount of absurdity in it, i think. And for any Newbie following that its actually quite frightening. Frank calls his way of doing hell and it only includes 3 steps. it's not the steps the problem, the

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yes, there is some absurdity to this conversation. I guess Frank and I have been doing this for so long, its just part of a game we play ;-) Anyway, I could give the instructions in one step: 1. use Pd-extended ;-) I don't think many newbies really want to get into the nitty-gritty of

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 6, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: 1) SVN/externals - otherwise [center_point]

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes, there is some absurdity to this conversation. I guess Frank and I have been doing this for so long, its just part of a game we play ;-) Anyway, I could give the instructions in one step: 1. use Pd-extended ;-)

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Apr 8, 2009, at 1:18 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes, there is some absurdity to this conversation. I guess Frank and I have been doing this for so long, its just part of a game we play ;-) Anyway, I could give

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You cheat a bit here: svn co whereverlibdiris; make libdir, and I don't know, if help-files in mapping work then - with just your sets they won't. And you still have the requirement of putting the directories mapping

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-06 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: 1) SVN/externals - otherwise [center_point] isn't found 2) SVN/externals/mapping - to find [mapping/reverse] and [mapping/disjoin] These two were meant to have reversed reasons. Ciao -- Frank

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-06 Thread cyrille henry
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: 1) SVN/externals - otherwise [center_point] isn't found 2) SVN/externals/mapping - to find [mapping/reverse] and [mapping/disjoin] These two

Re: [PD] mapping: path setting hell

2009-04-06 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: 1) SVN/externals - otherwise [center_point] isn't found 2) SVN/externals/mapping - to find