Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries in abstractions)

2018-04-20 Thread Liam Goodacre 
What do you usually do to use objects from these libraries? All externals 
objects are declared as [library/object] inside Context, so it it works outside 
the patch, I don't understand why it wouldn't work inside. Can you for instance 
create [iemguts/canvasargs] in a regular patch?



From: Raphaël Ilias <phae.il...@gmail.com>
Sent: 19 April 2018 16:26
To: Liam Goodacre
Cc: PD list
Subject: Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries 
in abstractions)

Good to know that my testing was useful.

However, I don't know if this is important for your testings, but I DO have 
iemguts and zexy (and cyclone, flatgui, hcs and list-abs... for the ones you 
use) already installed via Deken (so on Mac OS X now they're put in 
/Users/myuseraccount/Library/Pd/).

I'll look deeper into Context when I have time, but it looks a huge amount of 
work.

all the best,

Raphaël


2018-04-19 16:55 GMT+02:00 Liam Goodacre 
<liamg...@hotmail.com<mailto:liamg...@hotmail.com>>:
Thanks Raphaël. It's especially good to know that Context works on Mac, since I 
haven't tested it there myself.

It looks like you don't have the zexy, iemguts or else installed. You can get 
them from Help-->Find Externals if you want, but the important thing is that 
Context works with the built in externals.

If you want to understand about resizing and shifting toggle floats, you can 
look at helpfiles/GUI_manioulation.pd

Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions!

Liam

From: Raphaël Ilias <phae.il...@gmail.com<mailto:phae.il...@gmail.com>>
Sent: 19 April 2018 12:56
Cc: Liam Goodacre; PD list
Subject: Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries 
in abstractions)

Hi,

I might be late for the answer... I didn't know Context, but I just had a quick 
look about it and seems interesting concept.
I am trying "externs-test.pd". I am using Macbook Pro 2012 with OS X 10.10.5 
Yosemite and pd-vanilla 0.48-1

1. I don't have any "couldn't create" on load

2. I don't really know yet how to "resizing and shifting toggle floats"

3. The 4 objects seems to create but none of their help-files open with 
"right-click > Help"

4. I quit pd, renamed the 8 libraries folder as "_OUT_libraryname/" and 
re-opened "externs-test.pd" :

1B. Now I have a lot of "couldn't create" on load :
- demux
- l2s
- sort
- mux
- urn
- else/break &
- msgfile
- iemguts/initbang
- else/fromany
- else/toany
- else/routeall
- s2l
- time
- iemmatrix/matrix
- iemmatrix/mtx_check
...
and a few chords that couldn't be created, and missing arrays (0-IDshare)

2B : still don't know how to "resize and shift toggle floats"

3B : [s2l] and [else/toany] don't create. The other two do open their 
help-patches with "right-click > Help"

NB : i don't have else library installed originally


Hope this helps !

cheers,

Raphaël


2018-04-15 6:26 GMT+02:00 Lucas Cordiviola 
<lucard...@hotmail.com<mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com>>:

Hi Liam,

Amazing patching!

-


1: When you open this patch, are there any "couldn't create" messages in the 
console? If so, tell me!


There are not "couldn't create" on "externs-test.pd" but I found:

 cyclone/tanh~
... couldn't create

going through examples that use [docfiles/glock~].

On "12_overlay_examples.pd" & 
"13_embedding_(takes_several_minutes_to_load!).pd" i get:


 <~
... couldn't create
 &&~
... couldn't create
 <~
... couldn't create
 &&~
... couldn't create
 <~
... couldn't create
 &&~
... couldn't create



2: Does Context seem to be working correctly? Try resizing it and shifting 
toggle floats to see.;


Resizing seems to work. I don't know what you mean with "shifting toggle floats 
to see".

Notes: when using "externs-test.pd" if I click on the *lower left toggle* i get:

0-crxyoff: no such object
0-roff: no such object
0-notsafe: no such object
0-roff2: no such object
0-crxyoff: no such object

But is not the case if I create a new patch and a new [context].

3: If the following objects have created correctly, can you call the helpfiles?


I can not open the help files.

Note: I have temporarily switched off my normal externals folder.

---

I can not open "00_first_time_tutorial.pd" it crashes Pd.






--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 4/14/2018 9:10 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:
I figured out what the difference was between mine and Alex's screenshots. In 
my case, the "custom search location" was also the folder that the patch was 
saved into. So it was loading an external relative to this, not the custom 
search folder.

I've uploaded a draft of Context with externals which I hope will work "out of 
the box"

Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries in abstractions)

2018-04-19 Thread Raphaël Ilias 
Good to know that my testing was useful.

However, I don't know if this is important for your testings, but I DO have
iemguts and zexy (and cyclone, flatgui, hcs and list-abs... for the ones
you use) already installed via Deken (so on Mac OS X now they're put in
/Users/myuseraccount/Library/Pd/).

I'll look deeper into Context when I have time, but it looks a huge amount
of work.

all the best,

Raphaël


2018-04-19 16:55 GMT+02:00 Liam Goodacre <liamg...@hotmail.com>:

> Thanks Raphaël. It's especially good to know that Context works on Mac,
> since I haven't tested it there myself.
>
> It looks like you don't have the zexy, iemguts or else installed. You can
> get them from Help-->Find Externals if you want, but the important thing is
> that Context works with the built in externals.
>
> If you want to understand about resizing and shifting toggle floats, you
> can look at helpfiles/GUI_manioulation.pd
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions!
>
> Liam
> --
> *From:* Raphaël Ilias <phae.il...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* 19 April 2018 12:56
> *Cc:* Liam Goodacre; PD list
> *Subject:* Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom
> libraries in abstractions)
>
> Hi,
>
> I might be late for the answer... I didn't know Context, but I just had a
> quick look about it and seems interesting concept.
> I am trying "externs-test.pd". I am using Macbook Pro 2012 with OS X
> 10.10.5 Yosemite and pd-vanilla 0.48-1
>
> 1. I don't have any "couldn't create" on load
>
> 2. I don't really know yet how to "resizing and shifting toggle floats"
>
> 3. The 4 objects seems to create but none of their help-files open with
> "right-click > Help"
>
> 4. I quit pd, renamed the 8 libraries folder as "_OUT_libraryname/" and
> re-opened "externs-test.pd" :
>
> 1B. Now I have a lot of "couldn't create" on load :
> - demux
> - l2s
> - sort
> - mux
> - urn
> - else/break &
> - msgfile
> - iemguts/initbang
> - else/fromany
> - else/toany
> - else/routeall
> - s2l
> - time
> - iemmatrix/matrix
> - iemmatrix/mtx_check
> ...
> and a few chords that couldn't be created, and missing arrays (0-IDshare)
>
> 2B : still don't know how to "resize and shift toggle floats"
>
> 3B : [s2l] and [else/toany] don't create. The other two do open their
> help-patches with "right-click > Help"
>
> NB : i don't have else library installed originally
>
>
> Hope this helps !
>
> cheers,
>
> Raphaël
>
>
> 2018-04-15 6:26 GMT+02:00 Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com>:
>
> Hi Liam,
>
> Amazing patching!
>
> -
>
> 1: When you open this patch, are there any "couldn't create" messages in
> the console? If so, tell me!
>
>
>
> There are not "couldn't create" on "externs-test.pd" but I found:
>
> * cyclone/tanh~*
> *... couldn't create*
>
> going through examples that use [docfiles/glock~].
>
> On "12_overlay_examples.pd" & 
> "13_embedding_(takes_several_minutes_to_load!).pd"
> i get:
>
>
> * <~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * &&~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * <~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * &&~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * <~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * &&~*
> *... couldn't create*
>
>
> 2: Does Context seem to be working correctly? Try resizing it and shifting
> toggle floats to see.;
>
>
>
> Resizing seems to work. I don't know what you mean with "shifting toggle
> floats to see".
>
> Notes: when using "externs-test.pd" if I click on the *lower left toggle*
> i get:
>
> *0-crxyoff: no such object*
> *0-roff: no such object*
> *0-notsafe: no such object*
> *0-roff2: no such object*
> *0-crxyoff: no such object*
>
> But is not the case if I create a new patch and a new [context].
>
> 3: If the following objects have created correctly, can you call the
> helpfiles?
>
>
>
> I can not open the help files.
>
> Note: I have temporarily switched off my normal externals folder.
>
> ---
>
> I can not open "00_first_time_tutorial.pd" it crashes Pd.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>
> On 4/14/2018 9:10 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:
>
> I figured out what the difference was between mine and Alex's screenshots.
> In my case, the "custom search location" was also the folder that the patch
> was saved into. So it was loading an external relative to this, not the
> cu

Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries in abstractions)

2018-04-19 Thread Liam Goodacre 
Thanks Raphaël. It's especially good to know that Context works on Mac, since I 
haven't tested it there myself.

It looks like you don't have the zexy, iemguts or else installed. You can get 
them from Help-->Find Externals if you want, but the important thing is that 
Context works with the built in externals.

If you want to understand about resizing and shifting toggle floats, you can 
look at helpfiles/GUI_manioulation.pd

Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions!

Liam

From: Raphaël Ilias <phae.il...@gmail.com>
Sent: 19 April 2018 12:56
Cc: Liam Goodacre; PD list
Subject: Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries 
in abstractions)

Hi,

I might be late for the answer... I didn't know Context, but I just had a quick 
look about it and seems interesting concept.
I am trying "externs-test.pd". I am using Macbook Pro 2012 with OS X 10.10.5 
Yosemite and pd-vanilla 0.48-1

1. I don't have any "couldn't create" on load

2. I don't really know yet how to "resizing and shifting toggle floats"

3. The 4 objects seems to create but none of their help-files open with 
"right-click > Help"

4. I quit pd, renamed the 8 libraries folder as "_OUT_libraryname/" and 
re-opened "externs-test.pd" :

1B. Now I have a lot of "couldn't create" on load :
- demux
- l2s
- sort
- mux
- urn
- else/break &
- msgfile
- iemguts/initbang
- else/fromany
- else/toany
- else/routeall
- s2l
- time
- iemmatrix/matrix
- iemmatrix/mtx_check
...
and a few chords that couldn't be created, and missing arrays (0-IDshare)

2B : still don't know how to "resize and shift toggle floats"

3B : [s2l] and [else/toany] don't create. The other two do open their 
help-patches with "right-click > Help"

NB : i don't have else library installed originally


Hope this helps !

cheers,

Raphaël


2018-04-15 6:26 GMT+02:00 Lucas Cordiviola 
<lucard...@hotmail.com<mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com>>:

Hi Liam,

Amazing patching!

-


1: When you open this patch, are there any "couldn't create" messages in the 
console? If so, tell me!


There are not "couldn't create" on "externs-test.pd" but I found:

 cyclone/tanh~
... couldn't create

going through examples that use [docfiles/glock~].

On "12_overlay_examples.pd" & 
"13_embedding_(takes_several_minutes_to_load!).pd" i get:


 <~
... couldn't create
 &&~
... couldn't create
 <~
... couldn't create
 &&~
... couldn't create
 <~
... couldn't create
 &&~
... couldn't create



2: Does Context seem to be working correctly? Try resizing it and shifting 
toggle floats to see.;


Resizing seems to work. I don't know what you mean with "shifting toggle floats 
to see".

Notes: when using "externs-test.pd" if I click on the *lower left toggle* i get:

0-crxyoff: no such object
0-roff: no such object
0-notsafe: no such object
0-roff2: no such object
0-crxyoff: no such object

But is not the case if I create a new patch and a new [context].

3: If the following objects have created correctly, can you call the helpfiles?


I can not open the help files.

Note: I have temporarily switched off my normal externals folder.

---

I can not open "00_first_time_tutorial.pd" it crashes Pd.






--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 4/14/2018 9:10 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:
I figured out what the difference was between mine and Alex's screenshots. In 
my case, the "custom search location" was also the folder that the patch was 
saved into. So it was loading an external relative to this, not the custom 
search folder.

I've uploaded a draft of Context with externals which I hope will work "out of 
the box". The idea is that if a user wants to use their own externals, they 
simply delete the relevant folders from the main Context folder, and then the 
patch goes back to searching for the externals in the regular places. This is 
based on the assumption that PD searches for externals in the PD folder BEFORE 
searching in Documents/PD/externals or anywhere else. This appears to be the 
case on my Linux and Windows machines, but can I count on it always working?

Lucas, thanks for pointing me towards the old Extended binaries for Zexy. I 
didn't realized that they existed, and it helps to keep the file size small. 
The Context folder currently has 6mb of binary externals (Linux, Windows & OS), 
which seems to me like an acceptable cost.

If anyone wants to test it, I'd really appreciate it, in case I've made a 
mistake. You can download the test branch here, then follow the instruction in 
the file "externs-test.pd".

https://github.com/LGoodacre/context-sequencer/tree/externs
[https://avatars2.githu

Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries in abstractions)

2018-04-19 Thread Raphaël Ilias 
Hi,

I might be late for the answer... I didn't know Context, but I just had a
quick look about it and seems interesting concept.
I am trying "externs-test.pd". I am using Macbook Pro 2012 with OS X
10.10.5 Yosemite and pd-vanilla 0.48-1

1. I don't have any "couldn't create" on load

2. I don't really know yet how to "resizing and shifting toggle floats"

3. The 4 objects seems to create but none of their help-files open with
"right-click > Help"

4. I quit pd, renamed the 8 libraries folder as "_OUT_libraryname/" and
re-opened "externs-test.pd" :

1B. Now I have a lot of "couldn't create" on load :
- demux
- l2s
- sort
- mux
- urn
- else/break &
- msgfile
- iemguts/initbang
- else/fromany
- else/toany
- else/routeall
- s2l
- time
- iemmatrix/matrix
- iemmatrix/mtx_check
...
and a few chords that couldn't be created, and missing arrays (0-IDshare)

2B : still don't know how to "resize and shift toggle floats"

3B : [s2l] and [else/toany] don't create. The other two do open their
help-patches with "right-click > Help"

NB : i don't have else library installed originally


Hope this helps !

cheers,

Raphaël


2018-04-15 6:26 GMT+02:00 Lucas Cordiviola :

> Hi Liam,
>
> Amazing patching!
>
> -
>
> 1: When you open this patch, are there any "couldn't create" messages in
> the console? If so, tell me!
>
>
>
> There are not "couldn't create" on "externs-test.pd" but I found:
>
> * cyclone/tanh~*
> *... couldn't create*
>
> going through examples that use [docfiles/glock~].
>
> On "12_overlay_examples.pd" & 
> "13_embedding_(takes_several_minutes_to_load!).pd"
> i get:
>
>
> * <~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * &&~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * <~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * &&~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * <~*
> *... couldn't create*
> * &&~*
> *... couldn't create*
>
>
> 2: Does Context seem to be working correctly? Try resizing it and shifting
> toggle floats to see.;
>
>
>
> Resizing seems to work. I don't know what you mean with "shifting toggle
> floats to see".
>
> Notes: when using "externs-test.pd" if I click on the *lower left toggle*
> i get:
>
> *0-crxyoff: no such object*
> *0-roff: no such object*
> *0-notsafe: no such object*
> *0-roff2: no such object*
> *0-crxyoff: no such object*
>
> But is not the case if I create a new patch and a new [context].
>
> 3: If the following objects have created correctly, can you call the
> helpfiles?
>
>
>
> I can not open the help files.
>
> Note: I have temporarily switched off my normal externals folder.
>
> ---
>
> I can not open "00_first_time_tutorial.pd" it crashes Pd.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>
> On 4/14/2018 9:10 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:
>
> I figured out what the difference was between mine and Alex's screenshots.
> In my case, the "custom search location" was also the folder that the patch
> was saved into. So it was loading an external relative to this, not the
> custom search folder.
>
> I've uploaded a draft of Context with externals which I hope will work
> "out of the box". The idea is that if a user wants to use their own
> externals, they simply delete the relevant folders from the main Context
> folder, and then the patch goes back to searching for the externals in the
> regular places. This is based on the assumption that PD searches for
> externals in the PD folder BEFORE searching in Documents/PD/externals or
> anywhere else. This appears to be the case on my Linux and Windows
> machines, but can I count on it always working?
>
> Lucas, thanks for pointing me towards the old Extended binaries for Zexy.
> I didn't realized that they existed, and it helps to keep the file size
> small. The Context folder currently has 6mb of binary externals (Linux,
> Windows & OS), which seems to me like an acceptable cost.
>
> If anyone wants to test it, I'd really appreciate it, in case I've made a
> mistake. You can download the test branch here, then follow the instruction
> in the file "externs-test.pd".
>
> https://github.com/LGoodacre/context-sequencer/tree/externs
> 
> LGoodacre/context-sequencer
> 
> context-sequencer - Context, a modular sequencer for PD
> github.com
>
> --
>
>
>
> ___
> Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/
> listinfo/pd-list
>
>


-- 
Raphaël Ilias
  ___
* phae.fr *
 17 places des Halles - Ingrandes
 49123 Ingrandes Le Fresne s/ Loire
 phae.il...@gmail.com / +33 (0) 6 04 45 79 78
  ___
___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests.

2018-04-16 Thread Liam Goodacre 
Yeah, it was something to do with [msgfile] crashing when it was asked to read 
from the disk. Not worth pursuing anyway, since this is a completely depricated 
version of Zexy (how frustrating!) I just replaced it with [text] and the 
problem is solved. I also found that the same problem was occurring in another, 
much more important part of the patch, so I'm glad we spotted this now.

What other problems have you spotted? I'm eager for feedback!

From: Pd-list <pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at> on behalf of IOhannes m zmoelnig 
<zmoel...@iem.at>
Sent: 16 April 2018 12:42
To: pd-list@lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests.

On 2018-04-16 13:15, Liam Goodacre wrote:
> Ah, now I get the same behavior! It looks like it's something to do with 
> [msgfile], whose behavior must have changed between the old version of Zexy 
> that I'm using and the current one. Now that I can see it, I should be able 
> to fix it...

the only significant change in [msgfile] in the last few years, would be
this one:

> Author: IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoel...@users.sourceforge.net>
> Date:   Tue Oct 6 13:17:38 2015 +
>
>write to canvas-local directory
>
>in sync with [textfile].
>the previous use of canvas_makefilename() was for nuffing

could that be the problem?
(i haven't followed the actual problem)

fasdrm
IOhannes

___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests.

2018-04-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig 
On 2018-04-16 13:15, Liam Goodacre wrote:
> Ah, now I get the same behavior! It looks like it's something to do with 
> [msgfile], whose behavior must have changed between the old version of Zexy 
> that I'm using and the current one. Now that I can see it, I should be able 
> to fix it...

the only significant change in [msgfile] in the last few years, would be
this one:

> Author: IOhannes m zmölnig 
> Date:   Tue Oct 6 13:17:38 2015 +
>
>write to canvas-local directory
>
>in sync with [textfile].
>the previous use of canvas_makefilename() was for nuffing

could that be the problem?
(i haven't followed the actual problem)

fasdrm
IOhannes



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature
___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests.

2018-04-16 Thread Liam Goodacre 
Ah, now I get the same behavior! It looks like it's something to do with 
[msgfile], whose behavior must have changed between the old version of Zexy 
that I'm using and the current one. Now that I can see it, I should be able to 
fix it...

From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com>
Sent: 16 April 2018 11:53
To: Liam Goodacre; PD list
Subject: Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests.


Confirmed. I have the same behaviour on an updated win10 machine.



--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 4/16/2018 7:36 AM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
 Could you try closing PD, opening it again, then opening test-1, closing it, 
then opening it again?

This works OK both times.

 Then close PD and try the same thing with test-2. See if you can spot any 
patterns.

 This works only the first time.


--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 4/16/2018 7:30 AM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:

Ok I'll try.


TBH I don't have much of a clue what is going wrong here.


It can be the case that is just this machine (win8.1 not receiving updates), I 
will try on a win10 with "updates" ASAP. I guess you are not having this issue 
on your windows and linux machines.



--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 4/16/2018 5:11 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:
So Context relies on a share patch which loads with the first instance of 
Context that you create. It's mostly there just to store certain arrays, but it 
can sometimes cause confusing behavior like this. Could you try closing PD, 
opening it again, then opening test-1, closing it, then opening it again? Then 
close PD and try the same thing with test-2. See if you can spot any patterns.

TBH I don't have much of a clue what is going wrong here. The only thing I can 
think of is that it's the [textbox] object, as I don't use that very often, 
basically in this helpfile. Are other help and example files loading correctly?

From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com><mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com>
Sent: 15 April 2018 11:52
To: Liam Goodacre; PD list
Subject: Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries 
in abstractions)


On 4/15/2018 5:53 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:

I'm guessing that test-1.pd will open and the others won't.

Kind of strange:

I can open test-1 so then I try test-2 and it crashes.
So I reopen Pd and try test-2 and here it works. (What?)
test-3 always crashes.

win8.1:

Problem Event Name:APPCRASH
  Application Name:pd.com
  Application Version:0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:6310
  Fault Module Name:crtdll.dll
  Fault Module Version:4.0.1183.1
  Fault Module Timestamp:30c91e2d


--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.





___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at<mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list





___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at<mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list





___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at<mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests.

2018-04-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola 
Confirmed. I have the same behaviour on an updated win10 machine.



--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 4/16/2018 7:36 AM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
 Could you try closing PD, opening it again, then opening test-1, closing it, 
then opening it again?

This works OK both times.

 Then close PD and try the same thing with test-2. See if you can spot any 
patterns.

 This works only the first time.


--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 4/16/2018 7:30 AM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:

Ok I'll try.


TBH I don't have much of a clue what is going wrong here.


It can be the case that is just this machine (win8.1 not receiving updates), I 
will try on a win10 with "updates" ASAP. I guess you are not having this issue 
on your windows and linux machines.



--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 4/16/2018 5:11 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:
So Context relies on a share patch which loads with the first instance of 
Context that you create. It's mostly there just to store certain arrays, but it 
can sometimes cause confusing behavior like this. Could you try closing PD, 
opening it again, then opening test-1, closing it, then opening it again? Then 
close PD and try the same thing with test-2. See if you can spot any patterns.

TBH I don't have much of a clue what is going wrong here. The only thing I can 
think of is that it's the [textbox] object, as I don't use that very often, 
basically in this helpfile. Are other help and example files loading correctly?

From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com><mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com>
Sent: 15 April 2018 11:52
To: Liam Goodacre; PD list
Subject: Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries 
in abstractions)


On 4/15/2018 5:53 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:

I'm guessing that test-1.pd will open and the others won't.

Kind of strange:

I can open test-1 so then I try test-2 and it crashes.
So I reopen Pd and try test-2 and here it works. (What?)
test-3 always crashes.

win8.1:

Problem Event Name:APPCRASH
  Application Name:pd.com
  Application Version:0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:6310
  Fault Module Name:crtdll.dll
  Fault Module Version:4.0.1183.1
  Fault Module Timestamp:30c91e2d


--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.





___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at<mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list





___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at<mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list





___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at<mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests.

2018-04-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola 
 Could you try closing PD, opening it again, then opening test-1, closing it, 
then opening it again?

This works OK both times.

 Then close PD and try the same thing with test-2. See if you can spot any 
patterns.

 This works only the first time.


--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 4/16/2018 7:30 AM, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:

Ok I'll try.


TBH I don't have much of a clue what is going wrong here.


It can be the case that is just this machine (win8.1 not receiving updates), I 
will try on a win10 with "updates" ASAP. I guess you are not having this issue 
on your windows and linux machines.



--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 4/16/2018 5:11 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:
So Context relies on a share patch which loads with the first instance of 
Context that you create. It's mostly there just to store certain arrays, but it 
can sometimes cause confusing behavior like this. Could you try closing PD, 
opening it again, then opening test-1, closing it, then opening it again? Then 
close PD and try the same thing with test-2. See if you can spot any patterns.

TBH I don't have much of a clue what is going wrong here. The only thing I can 
think of is that it's the [textbox] object, as I don't use that very often, 
basically in this helpfile. Are other help and example files loading correctly?

From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com><mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com>
Sent: 15 April 2018 11:52
To: Liam Goodacre; PD list
Subject: Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries 
in abstractions)


On 4/15/2018 5:53 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:

I'm guessing that test-1.pd will open and the others won't.

Kind of strange:

I can open test-1 so then I try test-2 and it crashes.
So I reopen Pd and try test-2 and here it works. (What?)
test-3 always crashes.

win8.1:

Problem Event Name:APPCRASH
  Application Name:pd.com
  Application Version:0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:6310
  Fault Module Name:crtdll.dll
  Fault Module Version:4.0.1183.1
  Fault Module Timestamp:30c91e2d


--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.





___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at<mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list





___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at<mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests.

2018-04-16 Thread Lucas Cordiviola 
Ok I'll try.


TBH I don't have much of a clue what is going wrong here.


It can be the case that is just this machine (win8.1 not receiving updates), I 
will try on a win10 with "updates" ASAP. I guess you are not having this issue 
on your windows and linux machines.



--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 4/16/2018 5:11 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:
So Context relies on a share patch which loads with the first instance of 
Context that you create. It's mostly there just to store certain arrays, but it 
can sometimes cause confusing behavior like this. Could you try closing PD, 
opening it again, then opening test-1, closing it, then opening it again? Then 
close PD and try the same thing with test-2. See if you can spot any patterns.

TBH I don't have much of a clue what is going wrong here. The only thing I can 
think of is that it's the [textbox] object, as I don't use that very often, 
basically in this helpfile. Are other help and example files loading correctly?

From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com><mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com>
Sent: 15 April 2018 11:52
To: Liam Goodacre; PD list
Subject: Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries 
in abstractions)


On 4/15/2018 5:53 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:

I'm guessing that test-1.pd will open and the others won't.

Kind of strange:

I can open test-1 so then I try test-2 and it crashes.
So I reopen Pd and try test-2 and here it works. (What?)
test-3 always crashes.

win8.1:

Problem Event Name:APPCRASH
  Application Name:pd.com
  Application Version:0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:6310
  Fault Module Name:crtdll.dll
  Fault Module Version:4.0.1183.1
  Fault Module Timestamp:30c91e2d


--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.





___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at<mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list


___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries in abstractions)

2018-04-16 Thread Liam Goodacre 
So Context relies on a share patch which loads with the first instance of 
Context that you create. It's mostly there just to store certain arrays, but it 
can sometimes cause confusing behavior like this. Could you try closing PD, 
opening it again, then opening test-1, closing it, then opening it again? Then 
close PD and try the same thing with test-2. See if you can spot any patterns.

TBH I don't have much of a clue what is going wrong here. The only thing I can 
think of is that it's the [textbox] object, as I don't use that very often, 
basically in this helpfile. Are other help and example files loading correctly?

From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucard...@hotmail.com>
Sent: 15 April 2018 11:52
To: Liam Goodacre; PD list
Subject: Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries 
in abstractions)


On 4/15/2018 5:53 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:

I'm guessing that test-1.pd will open and the others won't.

Kind of strange:

I can open test-1 so then I try test-2 and it crashes.
So I reopen Pd and try test-2 and here it works. (What?)
test-3 always crashes.

win8.1:

Problem Event Name:APPCRASH
  Application Name:pd.com
  Application Version:0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:6310
  Fault Module Name:crtdll.dll
  Fault Module Version:4.0.1183.1
  Fault Module Timestamp:30c91e2d


--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.


___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries in abstractions)

2018-04-15 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres 
2018-04-15 5:53 GMT-03:00 Liam Goodacre :

> Hi Lucas, thanks for testing!
>
>   *cyclone/tanh~*
> *... couldn't create*
>
>
> Thanks for spotting this. To avoid needing yet another external, and since
> this is just a part of the demo, I've replaced this object with [expr~
> tanh($v1)].
>
>
> *<~*
>
> *... couldn't create*
>
> *&&~*
>
>
> *... couldn't create *
>
>
> Again, well spotted. Since I've loaded zexy objects individually, these
> binops objects don't work. I've found a workaround using
> [cyclone/lessthan~] and [*~].
>


you can also use [expr~ with ">~" and "&&" and stuff
___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] CONTEXT V3.0.2 tests. (was: How to declare custom libraries in abstractions)

2018-04-15 Thread Lucas Cordiviola 
On 4/15/2018 5:53 AM, Liam Goodacre wrote:

I'm guessing that test-1.pd will open and the others won't.

Kind of strange:

I can open test-1 so then I try test-2 and it crashes.
So I reopen Pd and try test-2 and here it works. (What?)
test-3 always crashes.

win8.1:

Problem Event Name:APPCRASH
  Application Name:pd.com
  Application Version:0.0.0.0
  Application Timestamp:6310
  Fault Module Name:crtdll.dll
  Fault Module Version:4.0.1183.1
  Fault Module Timestamp:30c91e2d


--

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.


___
Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list
UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> 
https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list