Re: [PD] Deken not showing ELSE external and others on Raspberry Pi with Debian 12

2024-02-02 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres 
Hi, to add  on the discussion, Francisco talked to me in private and I
asked him to bring this to the list.

First, I stopped offering raspberry pi binaries for amv8 for a while now.
Joseph (Linux ROUEN Normandie) said that that it'd be really rare for
someone to use it, and Francisco is using it and needs it, so I'd like to
get this straight. Apparently I should bother and offer these binaries
again. Francisco, do you know why you need this and not something else?
Joseph, can you join in the discussion and tell us again why this should
not be necessary?

Last release I have with 'armv8' binaries is rc6, still up in deken.
Francisco confirmed they work, but it doesn't show up for him! I am now
about to release rc11, and I keep only the 5 last releases in the serve so
I don't take too much space, so rc6 is about to be deleted. I just uploaded
(after Francisco's email) rc11 binaries for pi (armv6, armv7 and armv8).
It's up in deken... I dont think I need the 3 of them, but is seems I need
at least 2, right?

Now, these uploaded packagee misses 4 objects, [sfont~], [circuit~], [sfz~]
and [plaits~]. I need help compiling them for armv8 and whatever ELSE I
need to provide, so what we have up there now is just a *test* until we can
figure things out. The dekn system uploaded the packages as 'Linux-arm64-32
/ Linux-armv7-32 / Linux-armv6-32'. Francisco seems to need
'Linux-arm64-32', ('armv8'), and it doesn't show.

Em sex., 2 de fev. de 2024 às 21:50, Francisco Medeiros 
escreveu:

>  Deken is not showing the ELSE external, nor many other externals
> available for Linux-Arm64-32.
>
see?


> When starting deken says Platform detected: Linux-aarch64-float32" and
> "Platform re-detected: Linux-armv8-float32".
>

Why both? Now I wonder that maybe it should have detected  'Linux-arm64-32'
instead? I don't know...

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Re: [PD] Deken not showing ELSE external and others on Raspberry Pi with Debian 12

2024-02-03 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres 
On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 at 09:55 Linux Rouen Normandie 
wrote:

> Well - well, who said I have said that !? 😕
>

I can clearly be wrong with what you said, but then explain again please :)
I just remember something that you mentioned armv8 64 bits is really rare


>
> Now on my RPi 400, I'm running since few weeks the latest RPi OS 12 64-bit
> (Debian Bookworm).
> At least up to few weeks ago Else was not available for this platform,
> except the old v.1.0-0 rc-6.
>
> This why for each release I 'm building Else from its source code
> including the missing 4 objects [sfont~], [circuit~], [sfz~] and [plaits~].
>
> Here my understanding is for seeing the available librairies in Deken we
> need to change the Default platform 'Linux-armv8-32' to the User
> defined-platform 'Linux-arm64-32'.
> See the attached screen capture.
>

But shouldn’t it get it right without this?


>
> Best,
> Joseph
> --
>
>
> Le 03/02/2024 à 07:39, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :
>
> Hi, to add  on the discussion, Francisco talked to me in private and I
> asked him to bring this to the list.
>
> First, I stopped offering raspberry pi binaries for amv8 for a while now.
> Joseph (Linux ROUEN Normandie) said that that it'd be really rare for
> someone to use it, and Francisco is using it and needs it, so I'd like to
> get this straight. Apparently I should bother and offer these binaries
> again. Francisco, do you know why you need this and not something else?
> Joseph, can you join in the discussion and tell us again why this should
> not be necessary?
>
> Last release I have with 'armv8' binaries is rc6, still up in deken.
> Francisco confirmed they work, but it doesn't show up for him! I am now
> about to release rc11, and I keep only the 5 last releases in the serve so
> I don't take too much space, so rc6 is about to be deleted. I just uploaded
> (after Francisco's email) rc11 binaries for pi (armv6, armv7 and armv8).
> It's up in deken... I dont think I need the 3 of them, but is seems I need
> at least 2, right?
>
> Now, these uploaded packagee misses 4 objects, [sfont~], [circuit~],
> [sfz~] and [plaits~]. I need help compiling them for armv8 and whatever
> ELSE I need to provide, so what we have up there now is just a *test*
> until we can figure things out. The dekn system uploaded the packages as
> 'Linux-arm64-32 / Linux-armv7-32 / Linux-armv6-32'. Francisco seems to need
> 'Linux-arm64-32', ('armv8'), and it doesn't show.
>
> Em sex., 2 de fev. de 2024 às 21:50, Francisco Medeiros <
> excali...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>>  Deken is not showing the ELSE external, nor many other externals
>> available for Linux-Arm64-32.
>>
> see?
>
>
>> When starting deken says Platform detected: Linux-aarch64-float32" and
>> "Platform re-detected: Linux-armv8-float32".
>>
>
> Why both? Now I wonder that maybe it should have detected
> 'Linux-arm64-32' instead? I don't know...
>
> cheers
>
>
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Re: [PD] Deken not showing ELSE external and others on Raspberry Pi with Debian 12

2024-02-03 Thread Linux Rouen Normandie 

What I said about 2 months ago is:
- At that time the main used RPi OS was/is v.11 32-bit (based on Debian 
Bullseye).
- This OS was/is largely used on all RPi H/W, either 32-bit and/or 
64-bit capable.


Since RPi OS 12 64-bit (based on Debian Bookworm) became official on 
11th Oct. 2023 
, 
this one will slowly but surely replace RPi OS 11/12 32-bit on the 
compatible hardware; i.e. 3B, 3B+, 3A+, 4B, 400, 5, CM3, CM3+, CM4, 
CM4S, and Zero 2 W.


My RPi 400 (4 GB RAM) has a chip-set which can run both 32 and 64-bit OSs.
Up to about 2 months ago I was only running under RPi OS 11 32-bit, as 
recommended by the RPi Foundation (64-bit was not considered as being 
enough completed).
Now I'm also running under RPi OS 12 64-bit but this one is still buggy 
vs. the previous 32-bit version.


Regarding Pd/Deken (I built it from the source code), I was obliged for 
both RPi OS 11 32-bit and RPi OS 12 64-bit to change the default 
platform to a user-defined platform to be able to get access to a larger 
externals offer.


During my Pd 0.54-1 compilation under RPi OS 12 64-bit I got:
pd 0.54.1 is now configured
    Platform: Linux
    Float size:   default
    ...
    Deken identifier: linux-arm64
    ...

After my today RPi OS 12 64-bit system update, I have:
    OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
    Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
    Kernel: 6.1.0-_rpi8_-rpi-v8
                -when just few hours ago I had-
    OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
    Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
    Kernel: 6.1.0-_rpi7_-rpi-v8
          -when just after this OS installation I had-
    OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
    Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
    Kernel: 6.1.0-_rpi6_-rpi-v8

I hope this clarifies a little bit my previous writings. 😉

The Pd/Deken platform detection issue remains open.
- - - - - - - - -

Le 03/02/2024 à 16:18, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :


On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 at 09:55 Linux Rouen Normandie 
 wrote:


Well - well, who said I have said that !? 😕


I can clearly be wrong with what you said, but then explain again 
please :) I just remember something that you mentioned armv8 64 bits 
is really rare



Now on my RPi 400, I'm running since few weeks the latest RPi OS
12 64-bit (Debian Bookworm).
At least up to few weeks ago Else was not available for this
platform, except the old v.1.0-0 rc-6.

This why for each release I 'm building Else from its source code
including the missing 4 objects [sfont~], [circuit~], [sfz~] and
[plaits~].

Here my understanding is for seeing the available librairies in
Deken we need to change the Default platform 'Linux-armv8-32' to
the User defined-platform 'Linux-arm64-32'.
See the attached screen capture.


But shouldn’t it get it right without this?


Best,
Joseph
--

Le 03/02/2024 à 07:39, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :

Hi, to add  on the discussion, Francisco talked to me in private
and I asked him to bring this to the list.

First, I stopped offering raspberry pi binaries for amv8 for a
while now. Joseph (Linux ROUEN Normandie) said that that it'd be
really rare for someone to use it, and Francisco is using it and
needs it, so I'd like to get this straight. Apparently I should
bother and offer these binaries again. Francisco, do you know why
you need this and not something else? Joseph, can you join in the
discussion and tell us again why this should not be necessary?

Last release I have with 'armv8' binaries is rc6, still up in
deken. Francisco confirmed they work, but it doesn't show up for
him! I am now about to release rc11, and I keep only the 5 last
releases in the serve so I don't take too much space, so rc6 is
about to be deleted. I just uploaded (after Francisco's email)
rc11 binaries for pi (armv6, armv7 and armv8). It's up in
deken... I dont think I need the 3 of them, but is seems I need
at least 2, right?

Now, these uploaded packagee misses 4 objects, [sfont~],
[circuit~], [sfz~] and [plaits~]. I need help compiling them for
armv8 and whatever ELSE I need to provide, so what we have up
there now is just a *test* until we can figure things out. The
dekn system uploaded the packages as 'Linux-arm64-32
/ Linux-armv7-32 / Linux-armv6-32'. Francisco seems to need
'Linux-arm64-32', ('armv8'), and it doesn't show.

Em sex., 2 de fev. de 2024 às 21:50, Francisco Medeiros
 escreveu:

 Deken is not showing the ELSE external, nor many other
externals available for Linux-Arm64-32.

see?

When starting deken says Platform detected:
Linux-aarch64-float32" and "Platform re-detected:
Linux-armv8-float32".


Why both? Now I wonder that maybe it should have detected 
'Linux-arm64-32' instead? I don't know...

ch

Re: [PD] Deken not showing ELSE external and others on Raspberry Pi with Debian 12

2024-02-03 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres 
I see, while we're at it, can I ask you to help me compiling just
[plaits~], [circuit~], [sfz~] and [sfont~] for the needed architectures as
soon as I have an official release out in a couple of days?

And out of the  'Linux-arm64-32 / Linux-armv7-32 / Linux-armv6-32', which
one should I not use?

thanks

Em sáb., 3 de fev. de 2024 às 16:07, Linux Rouen Normandie <
linux.ro...@free.fr> escreveu:

> What I said about 2 months ago is:
> - At that time the main used RPi OS was/is v.11 32-bit (based on Debian
> Bullseye).
> - This OS was/is largely used on all RPi H/W, either 32-bit and/or 64-bit
> capable.
>
> Since RPi OS 12 64-bit (based on Debian Bookworm) became official on 11th
> Oct. 2023
> ,
> this one will slowly but surely replace RPi OS 11/12 32-bit on the
> compatible hardware; i.e. 3B, 3B+, 3A+, 4B, 400, 5, CM3, CM3+, CM4, CM4S,
> and Zero 2 W.
>
> My RPi 400 (4 GB RAM) has a chip-set which can run both 32 and 64-bit OSs.
> Up to about 2 months ago I was only running under RPi OS 11 32-bit, as
> recommended by the RPi Foundation (64-bit was not considered as being
> enough completed).
> Now I'm also running under RPi OS 12 64-bit but this one is still buggy
> vs. the previous 32-bit version.
>
> Regarding Pd/Deken (I built it from the source code), I was obliged for
> both RPi OS 11 32-bit and RPi OS 12 64-bit to change the default platform
> to a user-defined platform to be able to get access to a larger externals
> offer.
>
> During my Pd 0.54-1 compilation under RPi OS 12 64-bit I got:
> pd 0.54.1 is now configured
> Platform: Linux
> Float size:   default
> ...
> Deken identifier: linux-arm64
> ...
>
> After my today RPi OS 12 64-bit system update, I have:
> OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
> Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
> Kernel: 6.1.0-*rpi8*-rpi-v8
> -when just few hours ago I had-
> OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
> Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
> Kernel: 6.1.0-*rpi7*-rpi-v8
>   -when just after this OS installation I had-
> OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
> Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
> Kernel: 6.1.0-*rpi6*-rpi-v8
>
> I hope this clarifies a little bit my previous writings. 😉
>
> The Pd/Deken platform detection issue remains open.
> - - - - - - - - -
>
> Le 03/02/2024 à 16:18, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :
>
>
> On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 at 09:55 Linux Rouen Normandie 
> wrote:
>
>> Well - well, who said I have said that !? 😕
>>
>
> I can clearly be wrong with what you said, but then explain again please
> :) I just remember something that you mentioned armv8 64 bits is really rare
>
>
>> Now on my RPi 400, I'm running since few weeks the latest RPi OS 12
>> 64-bit (Debian Bookworm).
>> At least up to few weeks ago Else was not available for this platform,
>> except the old v.1.0-0 rc-6.
>>
>> This why for each release I 'm building Else from its source code
>> including the missing 4 objects [sfont~], [circuit~], [sfz~] and [plaits~].
>>
>> Here my understanding is for seeing the available librairies in Deken we
>> need to change the Default platform 'Linux-armv8-32' to the User
>> defined-platform 'Linux-arm64-32'.
>> See the attached screen capture.
>>
>
> But shouldn’t it get it right without this?
>
>
>> Best,
>> Joseph
>> --
>>
>> Le 03/02/2024 à 07:39, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :
>>
>> Hi, to add  on the discussion, Francisco talked to me in private and I
>> asked him to bring this to the list.
>>
>> First, I stopped offering raspberry pi binaries for amv8 for a while now.
>> Joseph (Linux ROUEN Normandie) said that that it'd be really rare for
>> someone to use it, and Francisco is using it and needs it, so I'd like to
>> get this straight. Apparently I should bother and offer these binaries
>> again. Francisco, do you know why you need this and not something else?
>> Joseph, can you join in the discussion and tell us again why this should
>> not be necessary?
>>
>> Last release I have with 'armv8' binaries is rc6, still up in deken.
>> Francisco confirmed they work, but it doesn't show up for him! I am now
>> about to release rc11, and I keep only the 5 last releases in the serve so
>> I don't take too much space, so rc6 is about to be deleted. I just uploaded
>> (after Francisco's email) rc11 binaries for pi (armv6, armv7 and armv8).
>> It's up in deken... I dont think I need the 3 of them, but is seems I need
>> at least 2, right?
>>
>> Now, these uploaded packagee misses 4 objects, [sfont~], [circuit~],
>> [sfz~] and [plaits~]. I need help compiling them for armv8 and whatever
>> ELSE I need to provide, so what we have up there now is just a *test*
>> until we can figure things out. The dekn system uploaded the packages as
>> 'Linux-arm64-32 / Linux-armv7-32 / Linux-armv6-32'. Francisco seems to need
>> 'Linux-arm64-32', ('armv8'), and it doesn't sho

Re: [PD] Deken not showing ELSE external and others on Raspberry Pi with Debian 12

2024-02-04 Thread Linux Rouen Normandie 

--
Le 04/02/2024 à 05:49, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :
I see, while we're at it, can I ask you to help me compiling just 
[plaits~], [circuit~], [sfz~] and [sfont~] for the needed 
architectures as soon as I have an official release out in a couple of 
days?

Yes, of course.


And out of the  'Linux-arm64-32 / Linux-armv7-32 / Linux-armv6-32', 
which one should I not use?

Frankly, I don't know enough about that.
This should be discussed with people understanding how Pd/Deken is 
working for determining which RPi OS/HW platform is in use.


What I have done on my RPi 400 regarding myself compiled Pd versions 
from 0.53-0 to 0.54-1:

- Pd/Deken installed under RPi OS 11 32-bit
  Default platform 'Linux-armv6-32' => User defined-platform 
'Linux-arm7-32'

- Pd/Deken installed under RPi OS 12 64-bit (only Pd 0.54-1)
  Default platform 'Linux-armv8-32' => User defined-platform 
'Linux-arm64-32'
  And for your externals I have compiled Else 1.0-0 rc-10, including 
the above 4 [*~] objects, from the source code and installed manually 
Cyclone from the unzipped 'cyclone-0.8.0_armv8_Linux64.zip'.
- If not and in both OS versions only very few and old externals were 
found by Pd/Deken.


thanks
--
Em sáb., 3 de fev. de 2024 às 16:07, Linux Rouen Normandie 
 escreveu:


What I said about 2 months ago is:
- At that time the main used RPi OS was/is v.11 32-bit (based on
Debian Bullseye).
- This OS was/is largely used on all RPi H/W, either 32-bit and/or
64-bit capable.

Since RPi OS 12 64-bit (based on Debian Bookworm) became official
on 11th Oct. 2023

,
this one will slowly but surely replace RPi OS 11/12 32-bit on the
compatible hardware; i.e. 3B, 3B+, 3A+, 4B, 400, 5, CM3, CM3+,
CM4, CM4S, and Zero 2 W.

My RPi 400 (4 GB RAM) has a chip-set which can run both 32 and
64-bit OSs.
Up to about 2 months ago I was only running under RPi OS 11
32-bit, as recommended by the RPi Foundation (64-bit was not
considered as being enough completed).
Now I'm also running under RPi OS 12 64-bit but this one is still
buggy vs. the previous 32-bit version.

Regarding Pd/Deken (I built it from the source code), I was
obliged for both RPi OS 11 32-bit and RPi OS 12 64-bit to change
the default platform to a user-defined platform to be able to get
access to a larger externals offer.

During my Pd 0.54-1 compilation under RPi OS 12 64-bit I got:
pd 0.54.1 is now configured
    Platform: Linux
    Float size:   default
    ...
    Deken identifier: linux-arm64
    ...

After my today RPi OS 12 64-bit system update, I have:
    OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
    Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
    Kernel: 6.1.0-_rpi8_-rpi-v8
                -when just few hours ago I had-
    OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
    Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
    Kernel: 6.1.0-_rpi7_-rpi-v8
          -when just after this OS installation I had-
    OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
    Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
    Kernel: 6.1.0-_rpi6_-rpi-v8

I hope this clarifies a little bit my previous writings. 😉

The Pd/Deken platform detection issue remains open.
- - - - - - - - -

Le 03/02/2024 à 16:18, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :


On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 at 09:55 Linux Rouen Normandie
 wrote:

Well - well, who said I have said that !? 😕


I can clearly be wrong with what you said, but then explain again
please :) I just remember something that you mentioned armv8 64
bits is really rare


Now on my RPi 400, I'm running since few weeks the latest RPi
OS 12 64-bit (Debian Bookworm).
At least up to few weeks ago Else was not available for this
platform, except the old v.1.0-0 rc-6.

This why for each release I 'm building Else from its source
code including the missing 4 objects [sfont~], [circuit~],
[sfz~] and [plaits~].

Here my understanding is for seeing the available librairies
in Deken we need to change the Default platform
'Linux-armv8-32' to the User defined-platform 'Linux-arm64-32'.
See the attached screen capture.


But shouldn’t it get it right without this?


Best,
Joseph
--

Le 03/02/2024 à 07:39, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :

Hi, to add  on the discussion, Francisco talked to me in
private and I asked him to bring this to the list.

First, I stopped offering raspberry pi binaries for amv8 for
a while now. Joseph (Linux ROUEN Normandie) said that that
it'd be really rare for someone to use it, and Francisco is
using it and needs it, so I'd like to get this straight.
Apparently I should bother and offe

Re: [PD] Deken not showing ELSE external and others on Raspberry Pi with Debian 12

2024-02-04 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig 

On 2/3/24 01:48, Francisco Medeiros wrote:

Hello,

I am having an issue with Deken on Raspberry Pi running the latest version
of Debian 12 and pd 0.54-1.

The problem is that Deken is not showing the ELSE external, nor many other
externals available for Linux-Arm64-32.

When starting deken says Platform detected: Linux-aarch64-float32" and
"Platform re-detected: Linux-armv8-float32".


thanks for the bug-report.
with the (off-list) help of joseph i was able to track down the source 
of this problem, and it is indeed a bug in Pd's CPU detection code.


i've opened a ticket 

there are a couple of workarounds:
1. if you are just having problems with finding externals in deken, you 
can do as joseph suggested and change the platform specifyer to 
"Linux-arm64-32" in the deken preferences
2. a more permanent (and future proof) fix requires recompilation: just 
add "--with-deken-cpu=arm64" to the configure flags (obviously you 
should *only* do this for creating a binary for the arm64 platform)


a *proper* fix has been submitted to Pd's "develop" branch (sowill 
appear in the next Pd release).


i'll update the Debian packages soon (hopefully tomorrow)

gfdsfa
IOhannes


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Re: [PD] Deken not showing ELSE external and others on Raspberry Pi with Debian 12

2024-02-05 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres 
Em dom., 4 de fev. de 2024 às 10:13, Linux Rouen Normandie <
linux.ro...@free.fr> escreveu:

> And out of the  'Linux-arm64-32 / Linux-armv7-32 / Linux-armv6-32', which
> one should I not use?
>
> Frankly, I don't know enough about that.
> This should be discussed with people understanding how Pd/Deken is working
> for determining which RPi OS/HW platform is in use.
>

Just compile for me now with both of the systems please, like you did last
time but this time also for armv8 (Linux-arm64-32). I'll upload to deken
and we'll see what is the other one you have (I guess it's armv7-32)  and
we'll leave it at that and ditch the other one, probably armv6

please just compile with the specific appropriate binary extension: "
*.l_arm64*" for armv8, and "*.l_arm*" for the other one.

RC11 is ready and here
https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases/tag/v.1.0-rc11

I can actually compile for pi with a virtual machine, but not for plaits~,
circuit~, sfz~ and sfont~. So you can try and just compile these for armv8.
Note that the trickiest one is sfont~, which needs to collect the
dependencies via a script. Since rc10, only plaits~ changed, so I would
only ask for that one for armv7 (since I already have the binaries from the
last release), but I need all those four for armv8 at least. If you are up
and game for it, you can just run the full compilation for extra fun in
both cases.

Thanks a lot



>
> What I have done on my RPi 400 regarding myself compiled Pd versions from
> 0.53-0 to 0.54-1:
> - Pd/Deken installed under RPi OS 11 32-bit
>   Default platform 'Linux-armv6-32' => User defined-platform
> 'Linux-arm7-32'
> - Pd/Deken installed under RPi OS 12 64-bit (only Pd 0.54-1)
>   Default platform 'Linux-armv8-32' => User defined-platform
> 'Linux-arm64-32'
>   And for your externals I have compiled Else 1.0-0 rc-10, including the
> above 4 [*~] objects, from the source code and installed manually Cyclone
> from the unzipped 'cyclone-0.8.0_armv8_Linux64.zip'.
> - If not and in both OS versions only very few and old externals were
> found by Pd/Deken.
>
>
> thanks
> --
> Em sáb., 3 de fev. de 2024 às 16:07, Linux Rouen Normandie <
> linux.ro...@free.fr> escreveu:
>
>> What I said about 2 months ago is:
>> - At that time the main used RPi OS was/is v.11 32-bit (based on Debian
>> Bullseye).
>> - This OS was/is largely used on all RPi H/W, either 32-bit and/or 64-bit
>> capable.
>>
>> Since RPi OS 12 64-bit (based on Debian Bookworm) became official on
>> 11th Oct. 2023
>> ,
>> this one will slowly but surely replace RPi OS 11/12 32-bit on the
>> compatible hardware; i.e. 3B, 3B+, 3A+, 4B, 400, 5, CM3, CM3+, CM4, CM4S,
>> and Zero 2 W.
>>
>> My RPi 400 (4 GB RAM) has a chip-set which can run both 32 and 64-bit OSs.
>> Up to about 2 months ago I was only running under RPi OS 11 32-bit, as
>> recommended by the RPi Foundation (64-bit was not considered as being
>> enough completed).
>> Now I'm also running under RPi OS 12 64-bit but this one is still buggy
>> vs. the previous 32-bit version.
>>
>> Regarding Pd/Deken (I built it from the source code), I was obliged for
>> both RPi OS 11 32-bit and RPi OS 12 64-bit to change the default platform
>> to a user-defined platform to be able to get access to a larger externals
>> offer.
>>
>> During my Pd 0.54-1 compilation under RPi OS 12 64-bit I got:
>> pd 0.54.1 is now configured
>> Platform: Linux
>> Float size:   default
>> ...
>> Deken identifier: linux-arm64
>> ...
>>
>> After my today RPi OS 12 64-bit system update, I have:
>> OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
>> Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
>> Kernel: 6.1.0-*rpi8*-rpi-v8
>> -when just few hours ago I had-
>> OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
>> Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
>> Kernel: 6.1.0-*rpi7*-rpi-v8
>>   -when just after this OS installation I had-
>> OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
>> Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
>> Kernel: 6.1.0-*rpi6*-rpi-v8
>>
>> I hope this clarifies a little bit my previous writings. 😉
>>
>> The Pd/Deken platform detection issue remains open.
>> - - - - - - - - -
>>
>> Le 03/02/2024 à 16:18, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 at 09:55 Linux Rouen Normandie 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well - well, who said I have said that !? 😕
>>>
>>
>> I can clearly be wrong with what you said, but then explain again please
>> :) I just remember something that you mentioned armv8 64 bits is really rare
>>
>>
>>> Now on my RPi 400, I'm running since few weeks the latest RPi OS 12
>>> 64-bit (Debian Bookworm).
>>> At least up to few weeks ago Else was not available for this platform,
>>> except the old v.1.0-0 rc-6.
>>>
>>> This why for each release I 'm building Else from its source code
>>> including the missing 4 objects [sfont~], [circuit~], [sfz~] and [plaits~].
>>>

Re: [PD] Deken not showing ELSE external and others on Raspberry Pi with Debian 12

2024-02-05 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig 

On 2/5/24 20:14, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:

time but this time also for armv8 (Linux-arm64-32). I'll upload to deken


please do not use "armv8" synonymously with "arm64".
in the context of deken, the former is a 32bit architecture, whereas the 
latter is a 64bit architecture and are therefore incompatible (that is: 
you cannot load an armv8 external in an arm64 Pd; and vice versa).


if the two architectures were the same, we wouldn't have this entire thread.

gmdar
IOhannes


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