RE: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Henk Terhell
Having just got a new PC, I was about to switch from Elements to Lightroom 1 which couldn't be run on the old PC. Wonder now whether I should start right away with LR 2, or wait some time till fully released. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Bob W
LR 2 is still a beta release, and expires in 30 days. The release date is sometime later this year, so LR 2 would leave you with a gap after your beta expires. It seems to make more sense to buy the current version now and upgrade when 2 comes out. I'd imagine the upgrade would be free or very

RE: Peso: Kayak in Big Scenic

2008-04-03 Thread Bob W
That looks like a pleasant way to spend the day. Very atmospheric enjoyable picture. Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 03 April 2008 06:18 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Peso: Kayak in Big Scenic

Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Lightroom 2 is a Public Beta at this point in time, probably reasonably stable but likely to have some bugs. Evaluation period for those without a key is 30 days, for those with a key it's due to expire in August. It is not at present compatible with v1.3.1 catalogs, nor are its metadata

Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Cotty
On 2/4/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!... Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput! ;-) Babelfish translated that as: If the Nunstruck is git and Slotermeyer? !... Beiherhund the or the Flipperwaldt gersput! I think the

Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW

2008-04-03 Thread mike wilson
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/02 Wed PM 01:15:05 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW Perhaps you should change your name, or move... to Australia. For a fair-skinned individual like me, being sent to

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread AlunFoto
At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs. We've had important documentation on DVDs corrupted in less than 2 years, and there's far much more money involved with these documents than with any photo. So we regard discs as transport

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread mike wilson
From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/03 Thu AM 08:19:17 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs.

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: We can rebuild it. We have the technology.

2008-04-03 Thread mike wilson
From: Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/02 Wed PM 12:15:26 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: We can rebuild it. We have the technology. mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So last weekend I spent the majority of my time going through all the

RE: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW

2008-04-03 Thread mike wilson
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/02 Wed PM 09:00:26 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW I've just spoken to Her Majesty's Inland Revenue on the telephone. My next door neighbour has exactly the same

Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread mike wilson
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm a trifle horrified Mark! - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread David Savage
At 04:47 PM 3/04/2008, Cotty wrote: On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. I think it's Norwegian for Boring as bat s#!t Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW

2008-04-03 Thread mike wilson
From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/02 Wed PM 02:32:45 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW Mike, That is a nightmare waiting to unfold... Regards, Bob S. Nobody smashed down the front door last night. I'll

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread mike wilson
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/03 Thu AM 08:47:32 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. You've got

Re: Peso: Kayak in Big Scenic

2008-04-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice. Very peaceful. The bright kayak in juxtaposition with the simple scene really makes it work. Excellent rendering. Paul On Apr 3, 2008, at 1:18 AM, William Robb wrote: Taken a couple of years ago. Pentax istD. 77mm lens at f/9 ISO 400, 1/1000 second

Re: PESO: Noodles

2008-04-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Bruce. She really chowed down last night. Must be going through a growth spurt. Paul On Apr 2, 2008, at 11:27 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Great expression on her face! -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, April 2, 2008, 6:48:48 PM, you wrote: PS

RE: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
Babelfish translated that as: If the Nunstruck is git and Slotermeyer? !... Beiherhund the or the Flipperwaldt gersput! I think the Nunstruck is definitely git. I'm done here !! -- Cheers, Cotty Tuo kyllä kuulostaa hyvältä! A-P

Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tuo kyllä kuulostaa hyvältä! Now, that looks familiar. I had the same trouble lately. They said it was the keyboard. Keybounce or what they call it. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage:

Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 2/4/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!... Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput! ;-) Babelfish translated that as: If the Nunstruck is git and Slotermeyer? !... Beiherhund the or the Flipperwaldt

Re: PESO: My wife's grand-children, Lea-Mei and Mateo ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

2008-04-03 Thread Gaëtan Beauchamp
Hello everybody! Thank you all for your comments and suggestions. Thanks Mister Paul Stenquist for your appreciation of the children's photo, the heron's photos and the lake's photo. Thanks to Mister Bill Lawlor. It seems that RA-4 color prints is not very usual these days. It's been very

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Just try again... On 4/3/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

K20D RAW Files Error?

2008-04-03 Thread Doug Franklin
http://forums.acdsystems.com/index.php?showtopic=6845 Look at Post #2. Maybe this is old news, but it's the first I'm hearing of it. There are some claims that the K20D PEF files contain an bug in the recording of white balance information in at least some cases. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ)

Re: K20D RAW Files Error?

2008-04-03 Thread Tim Øsleby
I'm afraid my experiense supports this. Except that I'm having trouble with DNG, not PEF. The tint values are way off. Temp seems ok. Some times the colours seem beyond correcting. I really hope they fix this ASAP. MaritimTim 2008/4/3, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: K20D RAW Files Error?

2008-04-03 Thread David Savage
Yes, it's a known issue. Cheers, Dave On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://forums.acdsystems.com/index.php?showtopic=6845 Look at Post #2. Maybe this is old news, but it's the first I'm hearing of it. There are some claims that the K20D PEF

Re: K20D RAW Files Error?

2008-04-03 Thread pnstenquist
I see it only in certain kinds of light. Flash color temp and outdoor are right on. But I have experienced some situations where correction of in-camera DNG files is almost impossible. I expect we'll get a firmware update soon. I haven't shot any PEF. Paul -- Original message

Re: K20D RAW Files Error?

2008-04-03 Thread timber
Replace PEF with DNG and you have a true statement :D Untill now all my DNG was 'useable' and was able to get correct colours in Lightroom, but the values were strange. I did a quick check, made photos with K10D and K20D and used the same white balance settings on both of them. The K10D was ok

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. Reminds me of the good old days of German coastal radio station Norddeich Radio. One of their routine messages was that owing to severe weather the pilotage in the Elbe and Weser estuary had been *temporarily*

Re: K20D RAW Files Error?

2008-04-03 Thread timber
I used to shot PEF files (well... almost only PEFs) since I have K20D just like I prefered them with K10D :D They are ok. The only problem is Lightroom does not recognizes them so I've to use the crappy PhotoLab... I mostly convert my PEFs in PhotoLab to 16 bit TIFs and then work on them with

Re: K20D RAW Files Error?

2008-04-03 Thread pnstenquist
No, this is a DNG problem. Paul -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Replace PEF with DNG and you have a true statement :D Untill now all my DNG was 'useable' and was able to get correct colours in Lightroom, but the values were strange. I did a

Re: K20D RAW Files Error?

2008-04-03 Thread Tim Øsleby
Outdoor shots are mostly ok, but at cloudy days they can be hard to correct. Some times imposible. So far I haven't experienced it on important shots. MaritimTim 2008/4/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I see it only in certain kinds of light. Flash color temp and outdoor are right on.

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread AlunFoto
lol yeah... It needs practice... :-) Jostein 2008/4/3, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just try again... On 4/3/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. -- Cheers, Cotty

Re: No Content yet again.

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Timestamps are appended at the local computer. My machines clock is up to date. If someone is in a time zone further west I would expect that they would have a earlier time stamp if they replied before their local time caught up. I'm using Thunderbird which I believe just puts the local

Re: No Content yet again.

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Loveless
Paul Sorenson wrote: Hmmm...don't have any ideas what's causing it, but often your posts arrive from the list with a time/date stamp later than posts responding to yours. It' been like that since the daylight savings time change over. I'm guessing PJ corrected his time, but botched his DST

Re: Calling all the Kiwi's

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes they are spectacular. Looking at them I can't help to think of how bored the locals must be with the scenery. David Savage wrote: Walt, I enjoyed them all, but some of those shots are jaw dropingly stunning. Quite a good advertisement for NZ for sure. Cheers, Dave On Thu, Apr 3,

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
You also need to keep the software and drivers too. (I'd like to think I'm just paranoid...) AlunFoto wrote: At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs. We've had important documentation on DVDs corrupted in less than 2 years, and

Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
mike wilson wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/02 Wed PM 01:15:05 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW Perhaps you should change your name, or move... to Australia. For a fair-skinned individual

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I thought digital was supposed to make photography easy and cheap? };-) If we stored negatives the way we are supposed to film would be a lot more expensive too. (I'll bet the archival film sheets are eating away at my negatives even now). mike wilson wrote: From: AlunFoto [EMAIL

RE: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Bob W
Tuo kyllä kuulostaa hyvältä! A-P Antti-Pekka Virjonen it's an old Finnish proverb - To cool a colostomy, hire Walter. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread AlunFoto
2008/4/3, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. Ach, that's easier than aperture. :-) Recently sorted out ascertain, but I'm still struggling with superfluous. The best surprise yet, though, was

Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Cotty wrote: On 2/4/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!... Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput! ;-) Babelfish translated that as: If the Nunstruck is git and Slotermeyer? !... Beiherhund the or the Flipperwaldt

Re: No Content yet again.

2008-04-03 Thread Paul Sorenson
What I'm seeing is not a time zone differential. It may range from 5 or 6 minutes to as much as 30. In any case, I suspect it may be an anomaly in the way the PDML server bounces the messages out to subscribers and obviously has nothing to do with your messages being lost in cyberspace. ;]

help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread Andreas Pfotenhauer
Hi everybody, as mentioned in the subject, i need your help :-) I'm in the process of building a website that will hold a database with all lenses usable on Pentax bodies (with preference for the digital ones). I know, there is Bojidar Dimitrov's excellent k-mount web page (and some others),

Re: No Content yet again.

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Hum, that makes sense. I didn't botch it exactly, turned the automatic DST update off. Requires a patch to either the OS or the BIOS that didn't take properly, since the government decided to play god with time, (it's interesting that DST is supposed to either make things safer, or save

Re: K20D RAW Files Error?

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
wolfram-bubbles Sounds more high tech in a strange physics sort of way... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replace PEF with DNG and you have a true statement :D Untill now all my DNG was 'useable' and was able to get correct colours in Lightroom, but the values were strange. I did a quick check,

Re: Calling all the Kiwi's

2008-04-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Walt, That's a great gallery with spectacular views. Franz Joseph and Queenstown remind me that I have updated shots from 2006. That gas station in Franz Joseph is still there and the first thing you see. I also showed my wife the picture of your's, just to remember when WE were thin and not gray.

thunderbird problems (was - No Content yet again.)

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Loveless
Thunderbird has some known issues with timestamps and DST. Try deleting the .msf files for all your profiles. You'll need to shut down thunderbird to do this. The application will build new files when you start it back up. You might want to back up your profiles, just in case you

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread mike wilson
From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/03 Thu PM 02:01:44 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta 2008/4/3, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed: iterative Holy

All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread Christine Aguila
and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right now. We could make it an online bi-annual: a spring/summer issue a fall/winter issue. We'd include features, how-tos VERY specific to Pentax equipment usage, Pentax equipment reviews, a photo gallery, Pentax events, Pentax history

Re: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Ok so the Leica S mount lenses could only be used a macro distances, but the Canon f0.95 would let in a lot of light! P. J. Alling wrote: Well you've set yourself an enduring hobby. Any m42 lens and the earlier m37 and c, (video, 8mm(?)), mount), Bessamatic or Kodak Retina IIIS/Reflex

Re: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Well you've set yourself an enduring hobby. Any m42 lens and the earlier m37 and c, (video, 8mm(?)), mount), Bessamatic or Kodak Retina IIIS/Reflex with the proper adapter, I think there may even be a Leica S (m39) mount to m42 adapter which opens all of the Leica, and copies such as Canon,

RE: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Bob W
iterative Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word. Ach, that's easier than aperture. :-) Recently sorted out ascertain, but I'm still struggling with superfluous. The best surprise yet, though, was Southwark. :-) Cheers, Jostein I bet they taught you the tourist

Re: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread pnstenquist
I would think it best to restrict something like this to lenses that can be used without an adapter. It might be worthwhile to include m42 Pentax lenses, but I would draw the line there. BTW, although you can fit a Leica 39mm screwmount lens to a Pentax with adapters, it won't focus anywhere

Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread Andreas Pfotenhauer
pentaxmagazine.org seems to be available :-) and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right now. We could make it an online bi-annual: a spring/summer issue a fall/winter issue. We'd include features, how-tos VERY specific to Pentax equipment usage, Pentax equipment

RE: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread Bob W
anywhere close to infinity is it possible for anything to be close to infinity? Any philosophers out there? Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2008 16:44 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re:

Re: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread Andreas Pfotenhauer
Hi P.J., I didn't make myself clear enough it seems (sorry, english is not my native tongue, but i'll try my best). The point is not to have a *complete* list of lenses that in theory can be somehow attached to a pentax body, who would want that anyway? maybe such a list would be historical

RE: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
Sure, according to the Mathematicians. And they're almost as unhelpful as the philosophers. Steve the philosophy major Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/3/2008 11:53 AM anywhere close to infinity is it possible for anything to be close to infinity? Any philosophers out there? Bob -Original

Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
Actually, it doesn't, at least according to my browser. . . . And your forgot Bill Robb's regular column, The Grumpy Pentaxian. Andreas Pfotenhauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/3/2008 11:52 AM pentaxmagazine.org seems to be available :-) and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right

Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread Dario Bonazza
Oops, I meant Mark, of course! Dario - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . . ...and Marks writes on

Re: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Loveless
Steve Desjardins wrote: Sure, according to the Mathematicians. And they're almost as unhelpful as the philosophers. I happen to like mathematicians quite a bit. They're much more useful than philosophers. Granted, it helps than I'm married to one. Now if only I could teach her to add 2+2

Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Thibouille
Godfrey, I think I read that those having a key can invite others to join the beta test till august. It won't make LR2 any less beta than it is but it removes the 30 days problem. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lightroom 2 is a Public Beta at this point

Re: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 04:53:07PM +0100, Bob W wrote: anywhere close to infinity is it possible for anything to be close to infinity? Any philosophers out there? Bob Well, by definition, if any of the philosophers are out there then it must be possible for something to be close to

Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread Doug Brewer
if we could write we wouldn't have cameras... Christine Aguila wrote: and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right now. We could make it an online bi-annual: a spring/summer issue a fall/winter issue. We'd include features, how-tos VERY specific to Pentax equipment

Re: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 12:27:39PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: Steve Desjardins wrote: Sure, according to the Mathematicians. And they're almost as unhelpful as the philosophers. I happen to like mathematicians quite a bit. They're much more useful than philosophers. Granted, it

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Put your images into industry-standard formats (TIFF, JPEG, DNG) and archive the files. Upgrade the storage medium as the medium is improved by copying the files. Hard drives are the current standard storage medium. These formats will be around for many many years. You don't have to worry

Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread Dario Bonazza
...and Marks writes on Cormorants. Dario - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . . and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter

Re: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Loveless
John Francis wrote: On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 12:27:39PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: Steve Desjardins wrote: Sure, according to the Mathematicians. And they're almost as unhelpful as the philosophers. I happen to like mathematicians quite a bit. They're much more useful than philosophers.

Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Not sure, I've not had time to read all the literature as yet. The boss has been using his whip lately. ;-) Godfrey On Apr 3, 2008, at 9:27 AM, Thibouille wrote: Godfrey, I think I read that those having a key can invite others to join the beta test till august. It won't make LR2 any less

Amazon has a good price on the K20D

2008-04-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
$1,122.80 with free shipping. At least it sounds good to me. Maybe I'm behind the times. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread Adam Maas
But the Zenit M39 lenses can be used (Leica thread with M42/K register) -Adam On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:33 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok so the Leica S mount lenses could only be used a macro distances, but the Canon f0.95 would let in a lot of light! P. J. Alling wrote:

Re: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Steve Desjardins wrote: I happen to like mathematicians quite a bit. They're much more useful than philosophers. Granted, it helps than I'm married to one. Now if only I could teach her to add 2+2 in her head. Mathematicians prove things. Addition is left as an exercise for the

Re: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread John Graves
Scott, Sure.and the sine of the square root of 1 comes right up any time you ask. Huh? John Graves WA1JG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott Loveless wrote: Steve Desjardins wrote: Sure, according to the Mathematicians. And they're almost as unhelpful as the philosophers. I happen

Re: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Loveless
John Graves wrote: Scott, Sure.and the sine of the square root of 1 comes right up any time you ask. Huh? Hold on a sec. I'll ask. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Amazon has a good price on the K20D

2008-04-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins Subject: Amazon has a good price on the K20D $1,122.80 with free shipping. At least it sounds good to me. Maybe I'm behind the times. Thats about $175.00 more than I paid at my local store. That was a Canadian price, not USA, and was

Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Doug Brewer Subject: Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . . if we could write we wouldn't have cameras... Or blogs WW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread AlunFoto
2008/4/3, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I bet they taught you the tourist pronunciation, didn't they! Ha ha - it gets them every time. I love it when tourists ask me how to find their way to 'Suvverk' and 'Lester Square'. I never get tired of that joke. If you really want to impress the locals

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread AlunFoto
The backup heaven is Restore. :-) Jostein 2008/4/3, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I understand the need for archival storage and try to do some. My main fear is the amount of data I manipulate now and will in the future. With a large amounts of data, checking the conditions of the back-up

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
I understand the need for archival storage and try to do some. My main fear is the amount of data I manipulate now and will in the future. With a large amounts of data, checking the conditions of the back-up becomes an issue. Some of us have encountered problems where the backup hasn't worked for

Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread mike wilson
From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seriously though, what do you think? You do it, I'll read it. Promise. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Amazon has a good price on the K20D

2008-04-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
Canadian? It was happy to charge my credit card that amount. I didn't actually buy it, just went through the checkout for a while. I did note that Adorama has it for 1196. William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/3/2008 1:07 PM - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins Subject: Amazon

Re: K20D RAW Files Error?

2008-04-03 Thread Timber
:D Okay okay! The english name just didn't came to my mind :D .t P. J. Alling wrote: wolfram-bubbles Sounds more high tech in a strange physics sort of way... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread AlunFoto
Well we've already designed a number of front pages over the years... Jostein 2008/4/3, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: and call it Pentax something, It doesn't really matter right now. We could make it an online bi-annual: a spring/summer issue a fall/winter issue. We'd include

Re: PESO - Tracks in blue

2008-04-03 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks a lot, all of you, for constructive comments. The blueness is a construct all together, the true conditions were heavy clouds and leaden gray light. For such conditions, the sight range was remarkably long and contrasts were more crisp than one could expect. That's why I wanted to play

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I run a drive/file system validation utility about once every month or two on my archives. It's too much work to do that frequently on the small capacity media like CD and DVD ... loading and unloading 200-300 of these volumes is days of tedious work ... so I concentrate doing that for the

Re: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread AlunFoto
2008/4/3, Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tuo kyllä kuulostaa hyvältä! Er'ekke nok nå'a? Takk Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I run a drive/file system validation utility about once every month or two on my archives. It's too much work to do that frequently on the small capacity media like CD and DVD ... loading and unloading 200-300 of these volumes is days of tedious work ... so I concentrate doing that for the

GFM: Sold out

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Roberts
I didn't check the site yesterday. Anyone notice when they announced all seats were filled? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: GFM: Sold out

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Loveless
Mark Roberts wrote: I didn't check the site yesterday. Anyone notice when they announced all seats were filled? April 1st. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: GFM: Sold out

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Loveless
Mark Roberts wrote: I didn't check the site yesterday. Anyone notice when they announced all seats were filled? Did you forget to buy a ticket? ;) -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Calling all the Kiwi's

2008-04-03 Thread Walter Hamler
Thanks all for the comments. I'm still hoping some of the members who are from/in NZ will see and post. I am still sorting out the cobwebs of my brain trying to remember the name of that castle! Walt On 4/3/08, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walt, That's a great gallery with spectacular

Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Thank God, I thought for a moment there was more than one of them. Dario Bonazza wrote: Oops, I meant Mark, of course! Dario - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: Re:

Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread Scott Loveless
P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure the word grumpy does him justice. Steve Desjardins wrote: Actually, it doesn't, at least according to my browser. . . . And your forgot Bill Robb's regular column, The Grumpy Pentaxian. Mebbe Mike Johnston could write that article and Bill could pen the

Re: Amazon has a good price on the K20D

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Give it a couple of months and the discounting will begin in earnest. Steve Desjardins wrote: $1,122.80 with free shipping. At least it sounds good to me. Maybe I'm behind the times. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540)

Re: help needed for new pentax lens website

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Ah, but those are Zenit lenses another kettle of fish altogether. Adam Maas wrote: But the Zenit M39 lenses can be used (Leica thread with M42/K register) -Adam On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:33 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok so the Leica S mount lenses could only be used a

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
Well my point was that I burned some perfectly good CDs on an HP 2100 burner under Win98. I moved that burner to a machine running Win2K, those CDs were unreadable. They weren't that important so I put them aside to try some data recovery at a later time. I acquired a DVD burner, that was

Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I prefer redundant information. AlunFoto wrote: 2008/4/3, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I bet they taught you the tourist pronunciation, didn't they! Ha ha - it gets them every time. I love it when tourists ask me how to find their way to 'Suvverk' and 'Lester Square'. I never get tired of

Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I can see the title page now.* PENTAX Something (All the cormorants fit to print) *I post this, by the way, with much egret. AlunFoto wrote: Well we've already designed a number of front pages over the years... Jostein 2008/4/3, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: and call it Pentax

Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm not sure the word grumpy does him justice. Steve Desjardins wrote: Actually, it doesn't, at least according to my browser. . . . And your forgot Bill Robb's regular column, The Grumpy Pentaxian. Andreas Pfotenhauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/3/2008 11:52 AM pentaxmagazine.org

Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I'd pay to see that... Scott Loveless wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure the word grumpy does him justice. Steve Desjardins wrote: Actually, it doesn't, at least according to my browser. . . . And your forgot Bill Robb's regular column, The Grumpy Pentaxian. Mebbe

Re: All right . . . here's an idea, Let's start a Magazine . . .

2008-04-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure the word grumpy does him justice. Steve Desjardins wrote: Actually, it doesn't, at least according to my browser. . . . And your forgot Bill Robb's regular column, The Grumpy Pentaxian. Mebbe Mike Johnston could write that article and

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