Re: Pentax 6x7 Hasselblad XPAN equiv. for a lot less

2011-09-20 Thread David Mann
On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Haven't seen anybody ever write about this yet, but people are spending serious dollars on the Hasselblad XPAN ($1500-$2500) but you could do the same thing with a Pentax 6x7, a 67 45mm lens, and the Fotodiox panormama kit for the Pentax 67:

RE: Clever ways of storing and carrying light stands, tripods etc?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of steve harley on 2011-09-19 16:26 Stan Halpin wrote You can probably buy crutches in all sizes in those same stores . . . not sure what your point is — perhaps to disparage thrift stores? — but indeed, that was where

Re: On All Pentax Imaging Web Properties

2011-09-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-09-20 1:23 AM, Brian Walters wrote: I assumed that if you don't want to participate in the Pentax Gallery any more or if you don't want to have your photos on our mobile site, they won't transfer your photos and data to the new site(s) if you notify them by Oct 3. I'm not sure what our

Re: On All Pentax Imaging Web Properties

2011-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
I suppose they will use some images to promote the gallery as they've done in the past. It's a typical disclaimer and not worth losing sleep over, IMO. Paul On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:40 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Hi All: I received this message from the Pentax Gallery website people. I

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com writes: http://donspix.posterous.com/doors-to-nowhere-3-pix-for-the-indecisive-pho I like the b/w one best. The yellow posts unbalance #3 by grabbing attention, and cropping them out weakens the composition in #1. -tih -- The market is a bunch of 28-year-olds

PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-20 Thread frank theriault
Not a great photo, I just wanted an ID on this guy. He was hanging around with the goldfinches several weeks ago (before they left) but he doesn't look like a goldfinch, just a wannabe. http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/yellow-guy.html Any ideas? Thanks! cheers, frank -- Sharpness

Re: PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Frank, He/she is a young goldfinch. It takes 'em a while for their colors to come in. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:13 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Not a great photo, I just wanted an ID on this guy.  He was hanging around with the goldfinches several weeks

Re: PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Bob's right. Either it is a young goldfinch, or it is a male that is molting to change into his drab winter outfit. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Frank, He/she is a young goldfinch.

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: #3 is my favorite.  The stairs need to touch the ground, and the 6 yellow posts are a plus in the color photo. BW is boring... Regards,  Bob S. Agreed Dave On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Don Guthrie

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread Tom C
William Robb wrote: Not liking Ansel Adams certainly strains a friendship, but I'll grant you are still a more or less worthwhile human being until you say something to redeem yourself. The monochrome needs to be cropped to more or less square, and then it works. ,mark. One cannot try to

Re: PESO - The End

2011-09-20 Thread Tom C
That's a nice shot, Tom. Judging by the angles, it doesn't even appear to be that extreme of a telephoto shot, either. One shudders to consider the cost of those tickets.  Somewhat stratospheric, wasn't it?  -Charles Thanks. You're correct, third row center. Almost exactly the same as

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread Tom C
On 11-09-19 4:24 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: The 1st set in a series. Of these 3 pix of the same thing I can't pick my favorite treatment. Your opinion would be valued. http://donspix.posterous.com/doors-to-nowhere-3-pix-for-the-indecisive-pho #3, the bright yellow posts jump out and draw in

Re: PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Looks like a goldfinch preparing for winter ann On 9/20/2011 08:13, frank theriault wrote: Not a great photo, I just wanted an ID on this guy. He was hanging around with the goldfinches several weeks ago (before they left) but he doesn't look like a goldfinch, just a wannabe.

Re: PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele
OK 3 votes for Goldy... there ya go Frank! I thought youngster first, then molting male and settled on the latter ann On 9/20/2011 10:17, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Bob's right. Either it is a young goldfinch, or it is a male that is molting to change into his drab winter outfit. Dan Dan

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bruce Walker Talk about Ansel Adams (see A door to nowhere thread) had me searching for something about a repeated criticism of Ansel Adams that I've run across: that he's the Normal Rockwell of photogs; that his output is kitsch rather than art; that his belief in beauty above all rather

Re: PESO - The End

2011-09-20 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:50, Tom C wrote: That's a nice shot, Tom. Judging by the angles, it doesn't even appear to be that extreme of a telephoto shot, either. One shudders to consider the cost of those tickets. Somewhat stratospheric, wasn't it? -Charles Thanks. You're

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Darren Addy
I'm sure I would enjoy seeing the photo galleries of any Ansel Adams critic. It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is

Re: PESO - Swirl

2011-09-20 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 10, 2011, at 8:48, Rick Womer wrote: Leaping effortlessly through time and space, this is from our trip to Toronto in May: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14149418size=lg I like this quite a bit. I can't really tell where the light's coming from so it's very interesting

Re: Did It! K-5 On The Way

2011-09-20 Thread John Sessoms
Right. Your new camera is weather sealed, so it doesn't matter if *YOU* get soaked and catch your death from cold. I hope it doesn't rain either Mark. From: Jack Davis Just read this and am likely not the first one to comment about this, but them K5 is grommeted and sealed against moisture

Re: On All Pentax Imaging Web Properties

2011-09-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: Brian Walters On Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:40 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Hi All: I received this message from the Pentax Gallery website people. I suspect that many of you received a similar message. I noticed the sentence: However, if you prefer not to display your

Re: PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault Not a great photo, I just wanted an ID on this guy. He was hanging around with the goldfinches several weeks ago (before they left) but he doesn't look like a goldfinch, just a wannabe. http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/yellow-guy.html Any ideas? A yellow

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tom C William Robb wrote: Not liking Ansel Adams certainly strains a friendship, but I'll grant you are still a more or less worthwhile human being until you say something to redeem yourself. The monochrome needs to be cropped to more or less square, and then it works. ,mark. One cannot

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread Darren Addy
The distance between I could have done something and I have done something (particularly done it First) is vast indeed. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
I Coulda, woulda, shoulda is always trumped by I DID. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: The distance between I could have done something and I have done something (particularly done it First) is vast indeed. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist I find the essayist's snoopy metaphor silly and demeaning. And while he admits to an Adams renaissance, t's clear that he doesn't understand the artistry of Adams' work and how he was able to bend light

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy I'm sure I would enjoy seeing the photo galleries of any Ansel Adams critic. I think you've misunderstood the function of critics. Are you suggesting that noone should criticise something unless they have

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Darren Addy
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I think you've misunderstood the function of critics. Are you suggesting that noone should criticise something unless they have personally done better? That would be absurd. I am suggesting that I personally value

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy I think you've misunderstood the function of critics. Are you suggesting that noone should criticise something unless they have personally done better? That would be absurd. I am suggesting that I

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Darren Addy
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: The function of critics is to provide an opinion for those with an insufficient mental capacity to form one of their own. that's probably the most arrogant thing I've ever read on the PDML. Congratulations. But you can't be

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread William Robb
On 20/09/2011 12:35 PM, Bob W wrote: that's probably the most arrogant thing I've ever read on the PDML. Dammit Bob, does this mean I have to revert back to being the list dickweed? -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: A door to nowhere

2011-09-20 Thread William Robb
On 20/09/2011 9:43 AM, Tom C wrote: LOL. I like you, is that redeeming enough? :-) Fine. We can still be friends. Tom C. (ALL my work is derivative) What utter bullshit. Your work is some of the most original and non derivative work I've seen. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Tom C
Darren Addy wrote: I'm sure I would enjoy seeing the photo galleries of any Ansel Adams critic. It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in

GESO - Band on the Run

2011-09-20 Thread Tom C
http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=539118 By you know who. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of William Robb that's probably the most arrogant thing I've ever read on the PDML. Dammit Bob, does this mean I have to revert back to being the list dickweed? you're gonna need to pick up the pace a bit, I think B

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-09-20 2:11 PM, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist I find the essayist's snoopy metaphor silly and demeaning. And while he admits to an Adams renaissance, t's clear that he doesn't understand the artistry of Adams' work and

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Colen
On 9/20/2011 11:35 AM, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy I think you've misunderstood the function of critics. Are you suggesting that noone should criticise something unless they have personally done better? That would be

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Colen
On 9/20/2011 11:56 AM, Tom C wrote: Nice quote and I'll agree to that last statement. :-) Budweiser still goes better with pizza than anything non-beer. I'll keep that in mind. I've never enjoyed it with anything else non-beer. Generally, when I've had it I've been sadder budweiser. --

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Colen
On 9/20/2011 11:52 AM, William Robb wrote: On 20/09/2011 12:35 PM, Bob W wrote: that's probably the most arrogant thing I've ever read on the PDML. Dammit Bob, does this mean I have to revert back to being the list dickweed? You're the list dickweed? I thought I was the list dickweed

Re: On All Pentax Imaging Web Properties

2011-09-20 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org To: PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:40 AM Subject: On All Pentax Imaging Web Properties Hi All: I received this message from the Pentax

Re: PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-20 Thread Ken Waller
A female American Goldfinch. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - Yellow Guy Frank, He/she is a young goldfinch. It takes 'em a while for their colors to come in. Regards,

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Colen
On 9/20/2011 12:05 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Kenneth Brower does an admirable and thorough job of fending off all of Adam's critics, including an accidental critic: John Szarkowski ... http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/2002/07/brower.htm I wonder how much of Adams' work is

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 20, 2011, at 13:56, Tom C wrote: Nice quote and I'll agree to that last statement. :-) Budweiser still goes better with pizza than anything non-beer. Cheap white wine from a box - with ice cubes - works for me! I have no class. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Tom C
Bob W wrote, in repsonse to Darren Addy: I am suggesting that I personally value Accomplishment, no matter how small, over Criticism (no matter how highly-regarded). The function of critics is to provide an opinion for those with an insufficient mental capacity to form one of their own.

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
I wonder how much of Adams' work is underappreciated by not seeing the original prints, but only seeing it on posters on office walls, or perhaps on the web. Kind of like watching Star Wars via VHS on a 12 CRT TV in 2000, versus watching it in the theater in July 1977. -- Larry Colen

Re: GESO - Band on the Run

2011-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well done. God, he's old! Paul On Sep 20, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Tom C wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=539118 By you know who. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: GESO - Band on the Run

2011-09-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul, That's kinda what I was thinking... On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Well done. God, he's old! Paul On Sep 20, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Tom C wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=539118 By you know who. Tom C. --

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
I have an acquaintance who fancies himself a movie director though he's never sold anything commercially. I've found I've stopped discussing movies I like because I watch a movie to be entertained. He watches a movie to critique it, and that takes all the fun out of it. Tom C. That may

Re: GESO - Band on the Run

2011-09-20 Thread John Francis
The telling day for that thought was June 18th 2006 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3chFhCP5mQ (Good photos, BTW, Tom!) On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 03:17:44PM -0500, Bob Sullivan wrote: Paul, That's kinda what I was thinking... On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Paul Stenquist

Scanning again!

2011-09-20 Thread Mark Roberts
I finally got my Minolta Scan Multi II operational again. What a slog, though... It's a SCSI scanner so I got a SCSI card with 64-bit driver support for my computer. But I couldn't get the card to recognize the scanner no matter what I did. Card problem? Scanner problem? Who knows... So I tried

Re: PDMLers... talk me in off the ledge, pls!

2011-09-20 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: Girlfriend, get the K5!!!   I'm working towards getting a 2nd one for back-up. 1) The other day I was shooting long with the K-7 wide with the K-5 for action stuff, and I couldn't believe the difference.  Auto

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread William Robb
On 20/09/2011 1:25 PM, Larry Colen wrote: You're the list dickweed? I thought I was the list dickweed and you were the list asshole. Now I'm confused. We don't actually have an official list asshole at the moment. I transferred to the Dickweed department a while back, and left the

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread William Robb
On 20/09/2011 1:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I wonder how much of Adams' work is underappreciated by not seeing the original prints, I saw an original (signed by St. Ansel himself) print of Moonrise over Hernandez in a gallery in Santa Fe. I was struck by the depth and sheer richness of the

RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 20 September 2011 22:58 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT But is it art? On 20/09/2011 1:25 PM, Larry Colen wrote: You're the list dickweed? I thought

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 20 September 2011 22:58 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT But is it art? On 20/09/2011 1:25 PM, Larry Colen

Re: PDMLers... talk me in off the ledge, pls!

2011-09-20 Thread William Robb
On 20/09/2011 3:06 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Thanks. A little girl talk always helps! I feel dirty now. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: PDMLers... talk me in off the ledge, pls!

2011-09-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Sep 20, 2011, at 8:23 PM, William Robb wrote: On 20/09/2011 3:06 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Thanks. A little girl talk always helps! I feel dirty now. With good reason. If the PDML engages in little girl talk, we could all end up in hot water. Paul -- William Robb

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Steven Desjardins
Cheeky bastard. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 20 September 2011 22:58 To:

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Bruce Walker
What a bum! On 11-09-20 8:35 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Cheeky bastard. On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 20, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Bob W wrote: while we're on the subject of critics and assholes, you might enjoy the following from critic

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:09:47PM +0100, Bob W wrote: while we're on the subject of critics and assholes, you might enjoy the following from critic and art-lover Kenneth Tynan: The buttocks are the most aesthetically pleasing part of the body because they are non-functional. Although they

Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-20 Thread Jack Davis
Apparently to some the butt is art. Jack - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:37 PM Subject: Re: OT But is it art? What a bum! On 11-09-20 8:35 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Re: PESO: Indignity

2011-09-20 Thread wendy beard
Indignity? Nah - THIS is indignity! http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/138022017 :-) Wendy (poor Bandit :-) ) On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=132 Comments are always

Re: PESO: Indignity

2011-09-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Yes, indeed it is. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:36 PM, wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com wrote: Indignity? Nah - THIS is indignity! http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/138022017 :-) Wendy (poor Bandit :-) ) On Mon, Sep

My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-20 Thread Larry Colen
A few of you have been to my house, and have seen my redwood grove. Even though they are young and small for redwoods, at about 100' tall and 4' in diameter, they're still pretty big by human standards. I recently picked up a work from home programming contract, and when I need to clear my

Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-20 Thread steve harley
on 2011-09-20 23:21 Larry Colen wrote As you might guess, when I was taking a break this afternoon, I noticed how the angle of the light brought out the texture of the bark on one of the trees, inspiring me to grab the camera, and give another try. I think that this shot does a fair job of