RE: Col or mono with digital (was: Re: I want to start a WAR)

2003-01-16 Thread Alan Abbott
Coming out from under the bed, Alan? Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto No, more a case of this list is to busy without my ramblingsas well! I agree with what you say, but it was an interesting experiment that for this one time worked. I love photography but I do not think

Re: Col or mono with digital (was: Re: I want to start a WAR)

2003-01-15 Thread Feroze Kistan
Thanks, the paper we gonna try out is called Kodak Endura Metallic, lasts a 100 years on display 200 in an album and its a RA4 colour print paper Feroze - Original Message - From: Bruce Rubenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:40 PM Subject:

Re: Col or mono with digital (was: Re: I want to start a WAR)

2003-01-15 Thread T Rittenhouse
Coming out from under the bed, Alan? (Alan is a wonderful person who has been lurking on the list for quite a while) I did not say you could not get a nice BW picture from a color negative. I said that to get the best possible BW print from a color negative it has to be exposed differently than

Re: Col or mono with digital (was: Re: I want to start a WAR)

2003-01-14 Thread T Rittenhouse
IMHO, a negative that will make a supurb BW print will only make a mediocre Color print, and one that will make a good Color print will only make a mediocre BW one. This is because you need higher contrast to get a dramatic BW print, and lower contrast to get a good Color print. The above presumes

Col or mono with digital (was: Re: I want to start a WAR)

2003-01-13 Thread Cotty
Doe aka Marnie (alright if I call you Aka for short?) writes: But I find BW boring. Put some color photos next to BW photos and my eye will skip right over the BW to the color This led me to do some thinking relating to digital. When shooting film, one makes a cognitive decision to load either

Re: Col or mono with digital (was: Re: I want to start a WAR)

2003-01-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Cotty, I think you can add more fuel to the fire. A while back I was requested to shoot BW for a client and so I went to my lab (Agfa D-Labs) to see what BW film they work best with. They told me to shoot color and the D-Lab would de-saturate. So I brought in a bunch of negatives of different

RE: Col or mono with digital (was: Re: I want to start a WAR)

2003-01-13 Thread Jos from Holland
Indeed you gain flexibility, decide later if it has to be B+W or colour. And also the kind of filtering: if you take a colour shot with the intention to get finally B+W, you decide on the filtering in the digital darkroom. This will work for most filters except ofcourse for pola filters and

Re: Col or mono with digital (was: Re: I want to start a WAR)

2003-01-13 Thread eactivist
In a message dated 1/13/2003 12:58:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This led me to do some thinking relating to digital. When shooting film, one makes a cognitive decision to load either colour or black and white film into the camera, usually based on anticipation of

Re: Col or mono with digital (was: Re: I want to start a WAR)

2003-01-13 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
In PS, using Channel Mixer, output to Gray, you can get any typical BW filter effect you want. A little work with Curves and you can get just about any look. There will always reasons to shoot BW film, but they won't necessarily be to just get a BW image. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty,

Col or mono with digital (was: Re: I want to start a WAR)

2003-01-13 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] With digital, this decision is made after the shots are made. This invites a whole new way of thinking. Framing for colour and framing for mono can be totally different. Seeing a result in glorious colour can easily dissuade removing the colour

RE: Col or mono with digital (was: Re: I want to start a WAR)

2003-01-13 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I like the flexibility: now I go out sometimes with three bodies, one filled with B+W, one with IR and one with colour or slide! What you lose in the process is typical grain. Who said that grain is the brushstroke of the photographer? Greetings,

RE: Col or mono with digital (was: Re: I want to start a WAR)

2003-01-13 Thread Jos from Holland
Your right Herb, and I'm quite sure that in future digital camaras will have a switch to select infra red modes I hope that it will show the beautifull combination of infra red sensitivity plus grain and the halos as is given now by the Kodak infra red film. Greetings, Jos -Oorspronkelijk