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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim
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Sent: Monday, 14 March 2011 11:24 AM
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Subject: Re: Damaged images
I've never seen that, but my first suspicion would be the SD card starting
to go flaky. -T
On 3/14/2011 10:25 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
Now whether cards become bad with time or not is mostly dependant on
the hardware/software controller on the card itself - depending on
how good it is at choosing places to write files and how good it is
at marking the bad spots on the card - the
On 3/14/2011 5:20 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Reasonable universal readers cost like $10-$15 here. I am sure it
is even less across the ocean. No need to buy a new Mercedes in
order to wrap into it a CD player, you know.
Yeah, kinda silly. We
On 3/14/2011 10:52 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
I had an issue with one particular card inside an OptioS in 2005. It
was while visiting Boris in Israel, too. Maybe he's got something
contagious in the air or something. :-)
-But never had a problem with any DSLRs or cards.
The *istD use CF cards, btw.
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 09:16:11PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
On 11-03-14 9:07 PM, steve harley wrote:
of course reformatting frequently will increase the number of
writes of those directory blocks, and thus wear those blocks out
even faster
Yeah, exactly, which is one reason why I don't
On 3/14/2011 4:58 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
I am sure every time is a huge overkill. Just using it in a reader
that can mount it properly without need for specialized drivers
should be enough. I have seen the problem a long time ago with a
crappy no-name memory card. Have been using Sandisk
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From: Boris Liberman
You also had an issue with me braking too hard nearby Haifa University.
I am a problematic fellow...
Don't take the blame for general Israeli traffic behaviour. :-)
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On 3/15/2011 9:12 AM, alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
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From: Boris Liberman
You also had an issue with me braking too hard nearby Haifa University.
I am a problematic fellow...
Don't take the blame for general Israeli traffic behaviour. :-)
I refuse not to take
It is also my obligation to remind you that I am under resolution
(thankfully, it has nothing to do with the United Nations) not to use
smileys...
:-/
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Kris, I am somewhat confused now. What you say makes perfect sense
except one detail. I thought that CF cards were those that had
controller on board. The SD cards as I understand don't have controller
on board. Therefore it makes certain sense (may be not too much sense,
but still) to write
On 3/15/2011 11:29 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
SD cards have controllers inside as well. This is hard data from an
Apacer datasheet of 2005: The SD Memory Card includes an intelligent
controller that manages interfaced protocols and data storage and
retrieval as well as Error Correction Code
Controllers in modern cards are designed so as to balance writes
across the card. That coupled with good error detection and
correction routines should make the card last forever under normal
load. That is assuming normal error rate. Could happen that the
memory on the cards is produced
On 3/14/2011 3:23 AM, Tim Bray wrote:
I've never seen that, but my first suspicion would be the SD card
starting to go flaky. -T
I second that. Haven't had an image that was damaged by the camera
since *istD and 2004.
Boris
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On Mar 13, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:
Also if by chance you have other software see if you can bring up the images
using it and also you may want to replace the SD card just in case it is
getting ready to go bad. Someone else may be able to fully answer this but
you may also
On 3/14/2011 3:55 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
I don't have a card reader. I import directly from the camera via USB
cable. Could I check the card while it's in the camera? Could I use
Mac's Disk Utility?
Eric, it may be a good reason and good time to buy a card reader. They
are inexpensive.
Boris
On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Eric, it may be a good reason and good time to buy a card reader. They are
inexpensive.
Thanks, Boris. I've been holding out for the moment when I can afford to
upgrade my MacBook to one with the card reader built in. Maybe it's time to go
On 3/14/2011 4:23 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
Thanks, Boris. I've been holding out for the moment when I can afford
to upgrade my MacBook to one with the card reader built in. Maybe
it's time to go ahead and get a reader. Doesn't look like I'm going
to be upgrading my computer soon.
Reasonable
On 11-03-13 7:41 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not display.
After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were two images that were
unsupported or damaged.
Should I expect this kind of thing occasionally? Or does
On 3/14/2011 4:34 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
Be sure and do a full format of your card after grabbing the images off
of it.
Indeed, it seems like a good practice to format a card in the camera
every time the images were copied from it to the computer.
Boris
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Indeed, it seems like a good practice to format a card in the camera
every time the images were copied from it to the computer.
Boris
I am sure every time is a huge overkill. Just using it in a reader that can
mount it properly without need for specialized drivers should be enough. I have
Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
Indeed, it seems like a good practice to format a card in the camera
every time the images were copied from it to the computer.
Boris
I am sure every time is a huge overkill. Just using it in a reader that
can mount it properly without need for specialized drivers
It may be more important to get a new card than a new reader.
-Tim
On Mar 14, 2011 6:58 AM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
On Mar 13, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Jeffery Johnson wrote:
Also if by chance you have other software see if you can bring up the images
using it and also you may want to
On 11-03-14 10:58 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
Indeed, it seems like a good practice to format a card in the camera
every time the images were copied from it to the computer.
Boris
I am sure every time is a huge overkill. Just using it in a reader that can mount it
properly without need for
On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
Reasonable universal readers cost like $10-$15 here. I am sure it is even
less across the ocean. No need to buy a new Mercedes in order to wrap into it
a CD player, you know.
Yeah, kinda silly. We humans are prone to that, more than we
On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
I am sure every time is a huge overkill. Just using it in a reader that can
mount it properly without need for specialized drivers should be enough. I
have seen the problem a long time ago with a crappy no-name memory card. Have
On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
On 11-03-13 7:41 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not
display. After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were
two images that were unsupported or damaged.
On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
On 3/14/2011 4:34 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
Be sure and do a full format of your card after grabbing the images off
of it.
Indeed, it seems like a good practice to format a card in the camera every
time the images were copied from it to
But
formatting may (although it's no guarantee) repair a glitch in an iffy
card and let you continue using it.
-bmw
Some facts and common sense:
SD memory is NAND flash which means the following things:
1) manufacturers ship it with errors already on the chip;
2) it deteriorates over time
On 2011-03-13 17:41 , Eric Weir wrote:
In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not display.
After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were two images that were
unsupported or damaged.
Should I expect this kind of thing occasionally?
for
2011/3/14 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
I've never seen that, but my first suspicion would be the SD card
starting to go flaky. -T
I second that. Haven't had an image that was damaged by the camera since
*istD and 2004.
I had an issue with one particular card inside an OptioS in 2005. It
On 11-03-14 4:25 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
But
formatting may (although it's no guarantee) repair a glitch in an iffy
card and let you continue using it.
-bmw
Some facts and common sense:
SD memory is NAND flash which means the following things:
1) manufacturers ship it with errors
On 2011-03-14 14:25 , Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
What formatting these does should be exactly nothing (or equivalent to deleting
files) but formatting is done with a piece of software on the host computer (or
camera) and therefore can introduce more writes/deletes than necessary.
What people
On 2011-03-14 14:54 , Bruce Walker wrote:
Now if a bad block is discovered on your Flash device while trying to
read the directory structure, I assume that the bad block will
immediately be remapped, but the damage is already done. Not physically
damaged of course, but files could appear to be
On Mar 14, 2011, at 4:29 PM, steve harley wrote:
for me it happens approximately once per 10,000 images; it's annoying, but so
infrequent that it doesn't trouble me greatly; i have a Transcend class 6 and
an ADATA class 10, both 8 GB and both in steady use for about two years
Thanks,
On Mar 14, 2011, at 4:52 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
The *istD use CF cards, btw
CF?
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Eric Weir wrote:
On Mar 14, 2011, at 4:52 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
The *istD use CF cards, btw
CF?
Choose among Carbon Fiber, Compact Flash and Cute Fuck :-)
Dario
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Dario Bonazza wrote:
Eric Weir wrote:
On Mar 14, 2011, at 4:52 PM, AlunFoto wrote:
The *istD use CF cards, btw
CF?
Choose among Carbon Fiber, Compact Flash and Cute Fuck :-)
I apologize, let's make it:
Choose among Carbon Fiber, Compact Flash and Cute F**k :-)
Dario
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Krisjanis Linkevics
But
formatting may (although it's no guarantee) repair a glitch in an
iffy
card and let you continue using it.
-bmw
Some facts and common sense:
I'm sorry, but you're going to have to
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Krisjanis Linkevics
But
formatting may (although it's no guarantee) repair a glitch in an
iffy
card and let you continue using it.
-bmw
Some
On 11-03-14 5:21 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-14 14:54 , Bruce Walker wrote:
Now if a bad block is discovered on your Flash device while trying to
read the directory structure, I assume that the bad block will
immediately be remapped, but the damage is already done. Not physically
damaged
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 02:29:27PM -0600, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-13 17:41 , Eric Weir wrote:
In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not
display. After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were
two images that were unsupported or
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 09:52:39PM +0100, AlunFoto wrote:
2011/3/14 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
I've never seen that, but my first suspicion would be the SD card
starting to go flaky. -T
I second that. Haven't had an image that was damaged by the camera since
*istD and 2004.
I
On 11-03-14 8:52 PM, John Francis wrote:
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 02:29:27PM -0600, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-13 17:41 , Eric Weir wrote:
In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not display.
After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were
On 2011-03-14 18:37 , Bruce Walker wrote:
On 11-03-14 5:21 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-14 14:54 , Bruce Walker wrote:
Now if a bad block is discovered on your Flash device while trying to
read the directory structure, I assume that the bad block will
immediately be remapped, but the
On 11-03-14 4:29 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-13 17:41 , Eric Weir wrote:
In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera
could not display. After the import LR displayed a message indicating
that there were two images that were unsupported or damaged.
Should I
On 11-03-14 9:07 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-14 18:37 , Bruce Walker wrote:
On 11-03-14 5:21 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-14 14:54 , Bruce Walker wrote:
Now if a bad block is discovered on your Flash device while trying to
read the directory structure, I assume that the bad block
In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not
display. After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were two
images that were unsupported or damaged.
Should I expect this kind of thing occasionally? Or does it indicate there may
be something
It's rare, but it does happen.
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not
display. After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were
two images that were unsupported or
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Subject: Damaged images
In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not
display. After the import LR displayed a message indicating that there were
two images that were unsupported or damaged.
Should I expect this kind of thing occasionally
I've never seen that, but my first suspicion would be the SD card
starting to go flaky. -T
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
In my last shooting episode there were two images that the camera could not
display. After the import LR displayed a message
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