Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: Developing Chemical Disposal a septic system as it will have that effect on the flora that breaks down waste. There's a lot of silver in the fixer when it's exhausted, something like 90% of the amount ori

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-08 Thread P. J. Alling
On 3/8/2010 12:54 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: Developing Chemical Disposal Silver Nitrate is a antiseptic, a bactericide. You don't want it in a septic system as it will have that effect on the flora that bre

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I did some color printing on Cibachrome (now Ilfochrome), and got results that at the time couldn't really be duplicated in a commercial lab. The chemistry was probably exceedingly hostile to living things, (probably to non living things as well but they didn't complain much). I wasn't crazy enou

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: Developing Chemical Disposal Silver Nitrate is a antiseptic, a bactericide. You don't want it in a septic system as it will have that effect on the flora that breaks down waste. There's a lot of silver in

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-08 Thread P. J. Alling
On 3/2/2010 5:10 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: John Graves wrote: I am considering developing my own B&W film. My film cameras are beckoning. Before I do this, I would like to understand how to dispose of the required chemicals. I would be using something like Ethol UFG on TMax or equivalents.

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-08 Thread P. J. Alling
On 3/2/2010 3:19 PM, John Graves wrote: I am considering developing my own B&W film. My film cameras are beckoning. Before I do this, I would like to understand how to dispose of the required chemicals. I would be using something like Ethol UFG on TMax or equivalents. It looks like fixer wit

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-05 Thread eckinator
2010/3/6 Bob W : >> >> I thought they were related to mitochondria. > > They may be related to your tochondria, but leave mine out of it it is fine as long as you keep yours out of my amphores -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBS

RE: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-05 Thread Bob W
> > I thought they were related to mitochondria. They may be related to your tochondria, but leave mine out of it -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the di

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
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Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-05 Thread mike wilson
mike wilson wrote: eckinator wrote: 2010/3/5 mike wilson : Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:12 AM, John Graves wrote: eckinator wrote: Color chemistry can be all over the map with regards toxicity and environmental impact ... but why anyone in their right mind w

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-05 Thread mike wilson
eckinator wrote: 2010/3/5 mike wilson : Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:12 AM, John Graves wrote: eckinator wrote: Color chemistry can be all over the map with regards toxicity and environmental impact ... but why anyone in their right mind would do a home color c

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-05 Thread eckinator
2010/3/5 mike wilson : > > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:12 AM, John Graves wrote: >> > eckinator wrote: >> Color chemistry can be all over the map with regards toxicity and >> environmental impact ... but why anyone in their right mind would do a >> home

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-05 Thread mike wilson
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:12 AM, John Graves wrote: > > eckinator wrote: > Color chemistry can be all over the map with regards toxicity and > environmental impact ... but why anyone in their right mind would do a > home color chemical darkroom today

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-04 Thread CheekyGeek
You can also do some interesting development with non-toxic stuff like coffee and tea (and ascorbic acid): http://www.google.com/search?q=coffee+ascorbic+acid+developer or Google: caffenol C A few links: http://www.flickr.com/photos/heritagefutures/4142721137/ http://www.flickr.com/groups/33051...

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-04 Thread eckinator
2010/3/4 John Graves : > > I understand your simile regarding being in one's right > mind...but I am left handed. so I must be in my right mind. I just learned my mind is either right but concealed or all over the place or perhaps was turned around some time so I'm sort of in the Unite

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-04 Thread eckinator
2010/3/4 Godfrey DiGiorgi : > [..> Digital capture, image processing and printing does far better than > the corner drugstore...] > I'm in it for the photographs, not the journey of processing! ;-) speck =) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have pretty similar feelings. I don't miss film at all. I get much better control and results from digital. Not to mention, much more practice and improvement in my skills (photographic, not lab) without a such a big hit in cost for all that film. Other areas besides cost that bothered me wit

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:12 AM, John Graves wrote: > eckinator wrote: Color chemistry can be all over the map with regards toxicity and environmental impact ... but why anyone in their right mind would do a home color chemical darkroom today is a mystery to me. >>> Think of it

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-04 Thread John Graves
ecke, I understand your simile regarding being in one's right mind...but I am left handed. so I must be in my right mind. John / WA1JG waiting for the adjuster... eckinator wrote: 2010/3/4 mike wilson : Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Color chemistry can be all o

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless" Subject: Re: Developing Chemical Disposal We discussed this a couple years back and there was a link to a document with some nifty mathematical/scientific data that claimed most of the silver thiosulfates become thiosulfi

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-04 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/3/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > Fixer has small amounts of sodium thiosulfate in it, which is > typically used in pesticides, etc. California doesn't even list it on > the toxicity pages. However, exhausted fixer has small amounts of > silver salts in it, which are heavy metals that are

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-04 Thread eckinator
2010/3/4 mike wilson : > > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> Color chemistry can be all over the map with regards toxicity and >> environmental impact ... but why anyone in their right mind would do a >> home color chemical darkroom today is a mystery to me. > > Think of it as like climbing Everest

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-04 Thread mike wilson
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Color chemistry can be all over the map with regards toxicity and > environmental impact ... but why anyone in their right mind would do a > home color chemical darkroom today is a mystery to me. Think of it as like climbing Everest for the sedentary urban class.

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:11 PM, John Graves wrote: > Ann, > > Thanks...I was reading elsewhere that stopbath was essentially vinegar so > why not. Stop bath is essentially dilute acetic acid, same as vinegar. The advantage of Kodak Indicator Stop Bath is that it has a dye in it that turns purple

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-03 Thread Paul Sorenson
This is the best choice - to take all your old chemistry to a household hazardous waste pickup point so it can be dealt with properly. Putting them into your septic system creates two issues. The first being any potential damage to your septic/soil absorption system and the possibility of the

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Graves" I am considering developing my own B&W film. My film cameras are beckoning. Before I do this, I would like to understand how to dispose of the required chemicals. I would be using something like Ethol UFG on TMax or equivalents. It looks

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-02 Thread John Graves
Ann, Thanks...I was reading elsewhere that stopbath was essentially vinegar so why not. Now what about the developer. I would use something like Ethol UFG unless this is really toxic and there is anything that is not. Inquiring minds want to know .or at least one mind. John / WA1JG a

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-02 Thread John Sessoms
John Graves wrote: > I am considering developing my own B&W film. My film cameras are > beckoning. Before I do this, I would like to understand how to dispose > of the required chemicals. I would be using something like Ethol UFG > on TMax or equivalents. It looks like fixer with a simple t

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-02 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:19 PM, John Graves wrote:  I am on a septic > system and don't want to spoil a good system. Use Scott's, he won;'t mind Dave > > Any suggestions either in disposal or alternative products is welcome. > > John / WA1JG > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.ne

Re: Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-02 Thread ann sanfedele
John Graves wrote: I am considering developing my own B&W film. My film cameras are beckoning. Before I do this, I would like to understand how to dispose of the required chemicals. I would be using something like Ethol UFG on TMax or equivalents. It looks like fixer with a simple treatme

Developing Chemical Disposal

2010-03-02 Thread John Graves
I am considering developing my own B&W film. My film cameras are beckoning. Before I do this, I would like to understand how to dispose of the required chemicals. I would be using something like Ethol UFG on TMax or equivalents. It looks like fixer with a simple treatment (desilvering) is du