Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-19 Thread Feroze Kistan
It took me 8 weeks to get one, and that was direct from the distributor. Feroze - Original Message - From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 5:37 PM Subject: RE: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

RE: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-18 Thread Greene
--- Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rob brings up a good point abou the frequency of USM > lenses, now how are these suppposed to be good for > wild life if your running around the forest with the > equivalent of a dog whislte making a racket? > He just may have been talking about his own Ro

Brendan's Ears (Was:Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS))

2003-03-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS) This point was discussed years ago by Canon nature and wildlife shooters on photo.net and there was no problem with ultra sonic lens noise. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Rob brings up a good point abou the frequency of USM

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-18 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
This point was discussed years ago by Canon nature and wildlife shooters on photo.net and there was no problem with ultra sonic lens noise. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob brings up a good point abou the frequency of USM lenses, now how are these suppposed to be good for wild life if your runni

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Boz, I am sorry I am a little late with reply. It seems that there were no virus on my computer after all, but hotpop is indeed behaving strangely. Anyway, I am sorry to see you go. With all honesty I realize that you might as well disappear from PDML, since this is mainly technical list. I h

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-18 Thread T Rittenhouse
Hear! Hear! Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: "Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS) > >

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-18 Thread T Rittenhouse
Can't say that I blame you, Boz. Funny thing is most of us on this list are 'serious' photographers. Pentax has pretty much abandoned that segment of the market. That may be a sound marketing decision on their part, but it really means that the enthusiastic Pentax user has been abandoned. Camera c

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-18 Thread Stephen Moore
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:51:33 +0100, Boz wrote: > > Best wishes to all and thanks for all I've learned from you! > To all KMP contributors most sincere thanks! > > Bojidar Dimitrov If I may add my small voice to the chorus, thanks for something that's pulled back many, many veils over the few sh

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-18 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 13:46:39 +0100 The *ist D won't be cheap. It will probably cost slightly more than >the Canon D10. A Pentax rep told me that the estimated price here in >Norway was about 20.000Nkr (~£1700), about twice as much as it needed >to cost in

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-18 Thread Pål Jensen
Cameron wrote: The MZ-S was beautiful, but flawed; the *ist D is way too late, and it better be cheap because it's last years' technology, and the *ist has some nice features but is extremely tacky looking. REPLY: Mostly right on. However, the MZ-S was basically the right camera but should ha

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-18 Thread Camdir
<< Oh yes, I do own a Pentax that I think is beautiful but a bit tacky in design. It's a transparent SF1 with a transparent zoom lens. Everything works on it but I can't take pictures with film because the film would be fogged. The camera and lens is on prominent display in my home. I get

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-18 Thread Chris Stoddart
Jim Apilado wrote: > > How many look at your cameras when you are out? I've had more attention from my 6x7 in the last 4 months than I have had from any other camera in 20 years. Almost invariably if I set up the beast on the tripod some wag pops up with variations of 'Are you taking a photograph

RE: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Reminds me of going into B&H the last few times I was in NYC and having everyone wanting to try out the LX or two I was carrying ;-) Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:33 PM -- -- -- Jim Apil

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Jim Apilado wrote: > > How many look at your cameras when you are out? I've had numerous inquiries regarding my 6x7. People are intrigued by the fact that it looks like an SLR on steroids. But my recently acquired Leica IIIf draws a crowd. I've only been using it for a week, but people frequen

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread John Mustarde
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:51:33 +0100, you wrote: >Best wishes to all and thanks for all I've learned from you! >To all KMP contributors most sincere thanks! > >Bojidar Dimitrov Many thanks for the KMP site, Boz. I've enjoyed it many times. I bought a Nikon D100 DSLR, intending to hold onto my Pent

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Mar 2003 at 20:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks Fred: You are exactly right. I was not in any way suggesting Boj was lazy > ... I was, in fact, trying to convince him not to leave Pentax for the bells and > whistles that Canon and Nikon offer. I doubt Boz's move is about "bells and whi

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Jim Apilado
; Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:13:07 -0800 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS) > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:13:17 -0500 > > It is indeed a sad day for Pentax a

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Pentxuser
Thanks Fred: You are exactly right. I was not in any way suggesting Boj was lazy ... I was, in fact, trying to convince him not to leave Pentax for the bells and whistles that Canon and Nikon offer. As photographers, collectors and gadget freaks (which most of us are including myself) I think it

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
For a lot of types of photography, it may not make you a better photographer, but you will get better photographs. Most of this misty-eyed, romantic, manual drivel comes from people with little of no experience using current high-end equipment. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want the lates

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Pål Jensen
Roland wrote: I understand your decision - but I feel that Pentax are moving towards USM and IS. And I believe that the *ist D has support for this technology. But, the question is always - how long will it take? New bodies and lenses with USM and IS. I believe that some might be released this

RE: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Len Paris
Boz, I want to thank you for all of the effort that you put into the KMP. It's a really great resource. I hope that, if you decide to stop maintaining it, you'll consider finding another serious "Pentax head" to take over the maintenance. If you make the switch to Canon completely, perhaps you'l

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Roland Mabo
From: Cameron Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:13:07 -0800 the *ist D is way too late, and it better be cheap because it's last years' technology "last years' technology"? Why are you saying that? What's "last year" in it? We haven't seen the complete specification yet, but from

RE: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread zoomshot
Hi Boz, Any system is not the be all and end all, just like with many other things, when you feel it doesn't perform then you are free to change. What is more important is that you are still a photographer. Many thanks for the KMP site, which has given me and many others an invaluable source of

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Cameron Hood
ctional though it may be. Best wishes to him from a long time (since '96) PDML member. Cameron Hood On Monday, March 17, 2003, at 06:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:51:33 +0100 From: Bojidar Dimitrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Go

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Caveman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want the latest and greatest USM, IS etc, go out and get it, but it really won't make you a better photographer. Boz clearly stated that he is "a technical head more than an artist", and I can understand his reasoning. It's his money, and he's free to spend it as

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Greene
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Bojidar: Interesting approach and conclusion. I can > see your reasons for > leaving... But don't ever forget that it is the > photographs that make the > difference not the camera, not even really the > lenses. If you want the latest > and greatest USM, IS etc, g

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Pentxuser
Bojidar: Interesting approach and conclusion. I can see your reasons for leaving... But don't ever forget that it is the photographs that make the difference not the camera, not even really the lenses. If you want the latest and greatest USM, IS etc, go out and get it, but it really won't make y

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Roland Mabo
Hi Bojidar, I understand your decision - but I feel that Pentax are moving towards USM and IS. And I believe that the *ist D has support for this technology. But, the question is always - how long will it take? New bodies and lenses with USM and IS. I believe that some might be released this fal

Re: Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
At 14:51 17.3.2003 +0100, Bojidar Dimitrov wrote: >... I bought an EOS 30 (Elan 7e) and the top-rated lenses EF >70-200/4 USM L and 28-105/3.5-4.5 USM. What can I say, I wasn't feeling >sick anymore. USM may be seen just as a gimmick by some on this list, >but USM lenses have full-time manual a

Good-bye Pentax (was: Pentax needs USM and IS)

2003-03-17 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Hi Roland, hi all, Roland Mabo wrote: > > Choosing SLR, is choosing a system. Those who wish to use the SLR > primarly for p&s photography doesn't bother, but those who are > serious about learning photography - who sees photography as an > art, as a hobby or as an income - thinks about SLR as a