Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-02-02 Thread Igor Roshchin
Bruce, I share your point of view. I found a similar situation with photographing swing dances. For a dance shot, f/4 is about as shallow DOF as you want to go. I find 17-70/4 is very suitable for this. (It also gives a little bit of the longer end, - which is occasionally handy, but you loose

Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-02-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Faster lenses are good and the 77/1.8 limited is still for sale. Either Pentax 85/1.4 is rare to find. And the A*135/1.8 is made of 'unobtanium'. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Sandy Harris sandyinch...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/1/10, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
and Cotty is responsible for making an 85mm A* f1.4 into an M... On 2/1/2010 10:54 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Faster lenses are good and the 77/1.8 limited is still for sale. Either Pentax 85/1.4 is rare to find. And the A*135/1.8 is made of 'unobtanium'. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at

Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-02-01 Thread Stan Halpin
A50/1.2 Crop as needed. stan On Feb 1, 2010, at 12:15 AM, Sandy Harris wrote: On 2/1/10, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Very much appreciated. If there is enough difference I may spring for a K-x. Could you get a faster lens instead? The 77/1.8 limited and the 85/1.4

Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-02-01 Thread paul stenquist
I'm guessing that Stan is being facetious. You really need a zoom to shoot most sporting events. You don't want to crop a 50mm shot to 200mm FOV. I thought the shots Bruce posted with the K20D were relatively noise free. I'd worry about a Kx in terms of write speed and autofocus control. You

Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-02-01 Thread paul stenquist
I'm guessing that Stan is being facetious. You really need a zoom to shoot most sporting events. You don't want to crop a 50mm shot to 200mm FOV. I thought the shots Bruce posted with the K20D were relatively noise free. I'd worry about a Kx in terms of write speed and autofocus control. You

Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-02-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have shot this venue the last two years so I know what I am up against. The only way to shoot it is with a wide to short tele zoom - basically the DA* 16-50 works extremely well. Since I have it and used it last year, that is the lens of choice. For this particular use, AF will probably not

Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-02-01 Thread Stan Halpin
I was at least half serious, but I did not consider the DOF issue. However, just in terms of quality of image, I wonder if an image shot at 1.2 and then cropped to, say, 25% of the original, might not be better than one shot at a higher ISO, uncropped. Am thinking 1.2 at 400 or 800ISO vs. 4.0 at

High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-01-31 Thread Bruce Dayton
At my daughter's game yesterday, I took shots in the gym feeling the lighting will be somewhat representative of what I will face for the gymnastic meet (I have shot this meet the last two years). Here is one shot: Pentax K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 108mm ISO 3200, 1/200 @ f/2.8

Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-01-31 Thread Rob Studdert
On 01/02/2010, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: At my daughter's game yesterday, I took shots in the gym feeling the lighting will be somewhat representative of what I will face for the gymnastic meet (I have shot this meet the last two years). Here is one shot: Pentax K20D, DA*

Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-01-31 Thread Bruce Dayton
Very much appreciated. If there is enough difference I may spring for a K-x. -- Bruce Sunday, January 31, 2010, 9:36:20 PM, you wrote: RS On 01/02/2010, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: At my daughter's game yesterday, I took shots in the gym feeling the lighting will be

Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-01-31 Thread Sandy Harris
On 2/1/10, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Very much appreciated. If there is enough difference I may spring for a K-x. Could you get a faster lens instead? The 77/1.8 limited and the 85/1.4 are both reportedly excellent. Would they be long enough? If manual focus is OK, perhaps

Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-01-31 Thread Larry Colen
On Jan 31, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Very much appreciated. If there is enough difference I may spring for a K-x. I was curious about this and started to do some research. It seems that buy.com has a K-X through beach for $549:

Re: High ISO - Kx further inquiries

2010-01-31 Thread Bruce Dayton
I need the zoom capability. As well, I don't want that shallow of DOF - I'd like to be shooting around f4 if possible. I have shot this two years now and it will be critical to have the wide zoom DA* 16-50. So I have the lens I want, just this year they are now going with no flash scenario.