William Robb wrote:
Or, you can bitch and whine on the internet if that is what floats
your boat, but it isn't as constructive.
Absolutely - and that's exactly what all kind of reviewers will do
until they got next camera or feature to chomp.
Personally I don't care much - I managed to survive
2009/8/6 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
I don't need any central-nervous toxin to come across as plain silly.
Apologies, Joe...
:-)
From me, or to me?
hmmm...
From me, anyway. Despite not being British. :-)
Jostein
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From: Margus Männik
Subject: Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
Absolutely - and that's exactly what all kind of reviewers will do until
they got next camera or feature to chomp.
Personally I don't care much - I managed to survive the Soviet age
On 8/4/09, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
2009/8/3 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
Mine is a good degree off. Way too much.
I really wish we could get Frank's input on this.
Frank's cameras all lean to the left.
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Subject: Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
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From: Margus Männik
Subject: Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
IF it has a function like this, it should be accurate. At least as
accurate as naked eye. K-7
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Sent: 06 August 2009 00:37
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Subject: Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
- Original Message -
From: Margus Männik
Subject: Re: How precise is your K-7's
From: Mark Roberts
Joseph McAllister wrote:
Perhaps it would help if all PDMLers were just a mite tipsy when we
view each other's imagery. Might also help us skip the words, as
well. Who wants to read a drunk's prose?
Hang on a minute... You mean you lot are *sober* when you post this
John Lissomness wrote:
From: Mark Roberts
Joseph McAllister wrote:
Perhaps it would help if all PDMLers were just a mite tipsy when
we view each other's imagery. Might also help us skip the words,
as well. Who wants to read a drunk's prose?
Hang on a minute... You mean you lot are
Mark Roberts wrote:
Joseph McAllister wrote:
Perhaps it would help if all PDMLers were just a mite tipsy when we
view each other's imagery. Might also help us skip the words, as
well. Who wants to read a drunk's prose?
Hang on a minute... You mean you lot are *sober* when you post
2009/8/5 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
On Aug 5, 2009, at 14:28 , Margus Männik wrote:
I know I'm not shooting slides, so I
take advantage of the fact that the camera gives me 10% more image than I
can see through the finder.
Joseph,
The K-7 has a 100% coverage VF. Unlike with the
2009/8/5 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
Perhaps it would help if all PDMLers were just a mite tipsy when we view
each other's imagery. Might also help us skip the words, as well. Who wants
to read a drunk's prose?
I don't need any central-nervous toxin to come across as plain silly.
From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com
I don't need any central-nervous toxin
ah, I long for the days when booze was called booze :-)
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Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
ah, I long for the days when booze was called booze :-)
Well then. How about this..:
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/15593755
Ralf
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From: Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de
Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
ah, I long for the days when booze was called booze :-)
Well then. How about this..:
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/15593755
LOL Thanks for posting, Ralf. Cheers,
ah, I long for the days when booze was called booze :-)
Well then. How about this..:
http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/15593755
LOL Thanks for posting, Ralf. Cheers, Christine
Can't imagine which nation that's designed to attract to the shop!
Bob
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Christine Aguila wrote:
From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com
I don't need any central-nervous toxin
ah, I long for the days when booze was called booze :-)
I long for the day I could afford booze...
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2009/8/6 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net:
From: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com
I don't need any central-nervous toxin
ah, I long for the days when booze was called booze :-)
Well my coffee _is_ quite strong, I suppose... :-)
Jostein
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On Aug 6, 2009, at 09:15 , Miserere wrote:
2009/8/5 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
On Aug 5, 2009, at 14:28 , Margus Männik wrote:
I know I'm not shooting slides, so I
take advantage of the fact that the camera gives me 10% more image
than I
can see through the finder.
Joseph,
The
On Aug 6, 2009, at 10:13 , AlunFoto wrote:
2009/8/5 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
Perhaps it would help if all PDMLers were just a mite tipsy when we
view
each other's imagery. Might also help us skip the words, as well.
Who wants
to read a drunk's prose?
I don't need any
2009/8/6 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
So give yourself 10% more image than you intend to use. It's a prudent thing
to do if you're shooting hand held, and there is no reason not to if you're
on a tripod. You can still add the film like this is the full frame as I
shot it border and
On Aug 5, 2009, at 12:11 PM, William Robb wrote:
Check it with a known accurate level. Count how many dits out it is.
Use that mark as your level mark.
It's not rocket science.
I'm so glad I have such low standards.
Sounds like too much hard work.
Just rotate your lens in its mount by a
2009/8/5 David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz:
Just rotate your lens in its mount by a degree or two.
I've found that the more input of spirits, the less level things become.
I've no need for a drunk camera.
Jostein
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On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 03:05:07PM -0400, paul stenquist scripsit:
You should use a bubble level to test it accurately. Flat and level is
not necessarily flat and level.
For that matter, a hardware store bubble level might not be
Joseph McAllister wrote:
IF the K-7 had a bubble level inside, you could expect accurate
readings. But it only has a digital
IF it has a function like this, it should be accurate. At least as
accurate as naked eye. K-7 is a serious tool, not a toy and inaccurate
functions are decreasing it's
On Aug 5, 2009, at 09:46 , AlunFoto wrote:
2009/8/5 David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz:
Just rotate your lens in its mount by a degree or two.
I've found that the more input of spirits, the less level things
become.
I've no need for a drunk camera.
Jostein
:-)
Perhaps it would help if
On Aug 5, 2009, at 14:28 , Margus Männik wrote:
Joseph McAllister wrote:
IF the K-7 had a bubble level inside, you could expect accurate
readings. But it only has a digital
IF it has a function like this, it should be accurate. At least as
accurate as naked eye. K-7 is a serious tool, not a
Joseph McAllister wrote:
Perhaps it would help if all PDMLers were just a mite tipsy when we
view each other's imagery. Might also help us skip the words, as
well. Who wants to read a drunk's prose?
Hang on a minute... You mean you lot are *sober* when you post this
stuff???
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- Original Message -
From: Margus Männik
Subject: Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
IF it has a function like this, it should be accurate. At least as
accurate as naked eye. K-7 is a serious tool, not a toy and inaccurate
functions are decreasing it's creditability
Mark Roberts wrote:
Joseph McAllister wrote:
Perhaps it would help if all PDMLers were just a mite tipsy when we
view each other's imagery. Might also help us skip the words, as
well. Who wants to read a drunk's prose?
Hang on a minute... You mean you lot are *sober* when you
: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
Mine is a good degree off. Way too much.
Ralf
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On Aug 4, 2009, at 07:56 , Margus Männik wrote:
Hi,
compared the K-7 I test with my most trusted bubble level.
Horizontally it's about one unit off, i.e. when the bubble sits in
the middle, K-7 wants me to rotate a camera a bit counterclockwise.
Vertical position is even more inaccurate
I have an electronic level. It does a great job, but needs to be
calibrated. Is there a way of calibrating the K-7 level?
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2009/8/3 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
Mine is a good degree off. Way too much.
I really wish we could get Frank's input on this.
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- Original Message -
From: Larry Colen
Subject: Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
I have an electronic level. It does a great job, but needs to be
calibrated. Is there a way of calibrating the K-7 level?
Check it with a known accurate level.
Count how many dits out
Mine is a good degree off. Way too much.
Ralf
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Many D700 owners have the same problem.
I'm lucky that mine works well.
DS
2009/8/3 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de:
Mine is a good degree off. Way too much.
Ralf
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I haven't even looked at it yet. I'll have to check.
Paul
On Aug 3, 2009, at 6:30 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
Mine is a good degree off. Way too much.
Ralf
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David,
You mean that _your_ spirit level works well? ;-)
My spirit will be greatly improved when the price of K-7 will go down
below MSRP.
On another hand, my level of spirits doesn't depend on K-7.
Igor
Mon Aug 3 06:06:59 CDT 2009
David Savage wrote:
Many D700 owners have the same
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Subject: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
Mine is a good degree off. Way too much.
Ralf
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Subject: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
Mine is a good degree off. Way too much.
Ralf
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On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 03:05:07PM -0400, paul stenquist scripsit:
You should use a bubble level to test it accurately. Flat and level is
not necessarily flat and level.
For that matter, a hardware store bubble level might not be accurate,
either. Certainly the cheap plastic torpedo levels
August 2009 20:22
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Subject: Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 03:05:07PM -0400, paul stenquist scripsit:
You should use a bubble level to test it accurately. Flat and level
is
not necessarily flat and level.
For that matter
: 03 August 2009 11:31
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Subject: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
Mine is a good degree off. Way too much.
Ralf
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- Original Message -
From: paul stenquist
Subject: Re: How precise is your K-7's spirit level?
You should use a bubble level to test it accurately. Flat and level is
not necessarily flat and level.
And as I just discovered, flat and level is not flat and level across the
hot shoe
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