Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-22 Thread AlunFoto
There's a video posted by Pentax USA too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNCHdsZI88g From the motions it seems to me the content is quite similar. Jostein 2009/5/22 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: AlunFoto wrote: Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one. Jostein I think you're

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-22 Thread mike wilson
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: AlunFoto wrote: Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one. Jostein I think you're right. Here is the help. Practically I can of course translate all of it, but it will take ages. Few random points: 1. The camera sensor seems to

RE: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-22 Thread JC OConnell
...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:22 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: AlunFoto wrote: Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-22 Thread AlunFoto
Sounds like an attempt to reduce number of lost photons between the pixels to me. Jostein 2009/5/22 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: AlunFoto wrote: Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one. Jostein I think you're right. Here is

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-22 Thread mike wilson
AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like an attempt to reduce number of lost photons between the pixels to me. Jostein Increasing the _effective_ area of each pixel? 2009/5/22 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: AlunFoto

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-22 Thread Boris Liberman
Oh, the effective area. Right. Mike you ought to stop being so pedantic ;-) Boris mike wilson wrote: AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like an attempt to reduce number of lost photons between the pixels to me. Jostein Increasing the _effective_ area of each pixel? 2009/5/22

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-22 Thread mike wilson
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, the effective area. Right. Mike you ought to stop being so pedantic ;-) It's a national trait. 8-) But I was and am still curious to see what is going on at pixel level and wasn't sure precisely what you meant. Boris mike wilson

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-22 Thread Bob Sullivan
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:06 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Mike you ought to stop being so pedantic ;-) It's a national trait. 8-) No this deserves a MARK -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 07:20:42AM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: 1. The camera sensor seems to be totally new. They have played with the micro lenses to increase actual area of a single pixel. The reviewer also mentions that this new micro lens design makes it work better with film lenses

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-22 Thread P. J. Alling
You can do the same refinements a number of times but eventually you reach a point of diminishing returns. Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 07:20:42AM +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: 1. The camera sensor seems to be totally new. They have played with the micro lenses to increase

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-22 Thread Thibouille
Same as sizing up the sensor. Bigger is always better but somehow it becomes unpractical ... Which is to say either slution are valid until proven inefficient. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:58 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: You can do the same refinements a number of times but

K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread Thibouille
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote:  Now the K7d by all accounts, (well the two I've read so far anyway), state the it's shutter and mirror are exceptionally quite, which is probably made possible partly by it's APS-C sized components. Here's a video in

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
no link! On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote:  Now the K7d by all accounts, (well the two I've read so far anyway), state the it's shutter and mirror are exceptionally quite, which is

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread Doug Brewer
Thibouille wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: Now the K7d by all accounts, (well the two I've read so far anyway), state the it's shutter and mirror are exceptionally quite, which is probably made possible partly by it's APS-C sized components.

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread Thibouille
Ouch! ;) Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PDwlMYMqY On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: no link! On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Do you know if the wireless remote shutter release can be stored in the grip as on the K20D? I would miss that feature. Paul On May 21, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Thibouille wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: Now the K7d by all

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread Doug Brewer
Thibouille wrote: Ouch! ;) Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PDwlMYMqY that must be from the Slavic region of Spain. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread Thibouille
Not anymore :( On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Do you know if the wireless remote shutter release can be stored in the grip as on the K20D? I would miss that feature. Paul On May 21, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Thibouille wrote: On

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread John Francis
According to a post on the DPReview forums, there is not enough space in the D-BG4 for the remote, no matter what batteries are being used. On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:38:21PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote: Do you know if the wireless remote shutter release can be stored in the grip as on the

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread Juan Buhler
The guy's Spanish is really really accented I think :) Nice sound. I'm thinking about a K7, to replace my K10D. I'm not sure I need it though--been using the M8 mostly lately, and only use the K10D with the 12-24 when I need a wide angle. I'd get this camera for the possibility of shooting video

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread AlunFoto
Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one. Jostein 2009/5/21 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com: Ouch! ;) Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PDwlMYMqY On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: no link! On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:58 AM,

RE: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread Bob W
Thibouille wrote: Ouch! ;) Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PDwlMYMqY that must be from the Slavic region of Spain. that guy's face is as expressive as a Gerry Anderson character. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcNkEa5EjQE The camera is very loud compared to an E-1.

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Thibouille wrote: Ouch! ;) Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-PDwlMYMqY that must be from the Slavic region of Spain. that guy's face is as expressive as a Gerry Anderson character.

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread paul stenquist
I don't notice a bit difference between the two cameras, other than the fact that the K7 is shooting more frames per second. But I don't care about noise for the most part. Paul On May 21, 2009, at 5:04 PM, Bob W wrote: Thibouille wrote: Ouch! ;) Here it is:

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread Boris Liberman
LOL. I thought that witnessing us talk in several days taught you the difference ;-). It is Russian ;-). Boris Thibouille wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 4:37 PM, P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com wrote: Now the K7d by all accounts, (well the two I've read so far anyway), state the it's

Re: K-7 shutter/mirror noise, SD card storage in grip, compresed DNG

2009-05-21 Thread Boris Liberman
AlunFoto wrote: Hmm... I think we need help from Boris on that one. Jostein I think you're right. Here is the help. Practically I can of course translate all of it, but it will take ages. Few random points: 1. The camera sensor seems to be totally new. They have played with the micro