Re: K10, K20, K7, and low light Konfusion

2010-01-04 Thread AlunFoto
Rick, I used both K10D and K20D for over a year. one thing that really peeved me is that the K20 is marketed as an evolutionary upgrade to K10. That's very, very far from the truth. Especially when it comes to dealing with the images in post processing. The K10D is a CCD based camera, with an

K10, K20, K7, and low light Konfusion

2010-01-03 Thread Rick Womer
Right now, I am not planning to replace my K10D with a K7, because the latter does not seem to have significantly better low-light performance. By reputation, the K20 is about 1 1/2 stops better than the K10 in low light, and the K7 is about a half-stop worse than the K20 (thus a stop better

Re: K10, K20, K7, and low light Konfusion

2010-01-03 Thread paul stenquist
On Jan 3, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Right now, I am not planning to replace my K10D with a K7, because the latter does not seem to have significantly better low-light performance. By reputation, the K20 is about 1 1/2 stops better than the K10 in low light, and the K7 is about

Re: K10, K20, K7, and low light Konfusion

2010-01-03 Thread P. J. Alling
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that none of the tests really mean much, and they seem to be more subjective than all the charts and graphs would indicate.. The best way to see if the low light performance is to shoot some photos and decide it you like hot they look. On 1/3/2010 5:59 PM,

Re: K10, K20, K7, and low light Konfusion

2010-01-03 Thread Tim Bray
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:11 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: My opinion, for what it's worth, is that none of the tests really mean much, and they seem to be more subjective than all the charts and graphs would indicate..  The best way to see if the low light performance is to

Re: K10, K20, K7, and low light Konfusion

2010-01-03 Thread paul stenquist
On Jan 3, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Tim Bray wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:11 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: My opinion, for what it's worth, is that none of the tests really mean much, and they seem to be more subjective than all the charts and graphs would indicate.. The

Re: K10, K20, K7, and low light Konfusion

2010-01-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rick Womer Subject: K10, K20, K7, and low light Konfusion Which leads me to think that the K10 and K7 sensors' low light performance is almost the same, and only slightly worse thana the K20's. So where does the K20's reputedly better performance come

Re: K10, K20, K7, and low light Konfusion

2010-01-03 Thread drd1135
C'mon Bill, I still have my K10D and need to feel good about it. --Original Message-- From: William Robb Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List ReplyTo: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10, K20, K7, and low light Konfusion Sent: Jan 3, 2010 8:43 PM

Re: K10, K20, K7, and low light Konfusion

2010-01-03 Thread Rick Womer
Well thanks for the reply, Tim, but... Evaluating low-light results with the LCD is like evaluating the flavor of a steak by looking at its photo in Gourmet Magazine. Only Ken Rockwell does it that way. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com

Re: K10, K20, K7, and low light Konfusion

2010-01-03 Thread paul stenquist
On Jan 3, 2010, at 9:29 PM, Rick Womer wrote: Well thanks for the reply, Tim, but... Evaluating low-light results with the LCD is like evaluating the flavor of a steak by looking at its photo in Gourmet Magazine. Mark! http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Sun, 1/3/10, Tim Bray

Re: K10, K20, K7, and low light Konfusion

2010-01-03 Thread Boris Liberman
Rick, in my (not really too humble) opinion, most of these tests are rubbish. I doubt that they are done in statistically correct manner (read: many scenes, many cameras, many lenses, etc). I also doubt their sense, as there doesn't seem to be involved any real life shooting, only special targets