Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-22 Thread Eckehard Wegner
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Kiss/truck Yuck... to me it looks like generic urban acid... effect for effect's sake IMO well at least it seems to polarize... 2011/7/18 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com: I normally hate HDR, but wow: https://plus.google.com

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-21 Thread William Robb
On 19/07/2011 7:52 AM, Darren Addy wrote: William's shot is a nice image, but it appears to me that it was taken in a museum, under fluorescent lights with a wallpaper background. It that IS where it is taken (or something similar), then this is understandable and a nice representation of what

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill, I like it the way it is. Nice image! Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:48 AM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/07/2011 7:52 AM, Darren Addy wrote: William's shot is a nice image, but it appears to me that it was taken in a museum, under fluorescent lights

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-21 Thread William Robb
On 21/07/2011 1:40 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Bill, I like it the way it is. Nice image! Thanks Bob. I appreciate that. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-21 Thread Eckehard Wegner
Yuck... to me it looks like generic urban acid... effect for effect's sake IMO well at least it seems to polarize... 2011/7/18 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com: I normally hate HDR, but wow: https://plus.google.com/106289562822644692555/posts/L5Di5wanKvA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-21 Thread drd1135
Mmm. . . Generic urban acid . . . -Original Message- From: Eckehard Wegner overpenta...@googlemail.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:35:31 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Kiss/truck Yuck

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-20 Thread William Robb
On 19/07/2011 12:17 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I agree about the labeling or not. If the first thing someone notices is oh look that's HDR, how clever you've mucked it up. One could say the same thing about any genre of the arts though, especially if it happens to be something that they

RE: Kiss/truck

2011-07-20 Thread Bob W
I agree about the labeling or not. If the first thing someone notices is oh look that's HDR, how clever you've mucked it up. One could say the same thing about any genre of the arts though, especially if it happens to be something that they have decided to have a hate on for. What has

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-20 Thread Larry Colen
I find it funny that one of the best features of the K-5 is the high dynamic range of the sensor, yet the thought of taking several photos to achieve the same thing is vilified. Mind you, the original photo has had more than just it's dynamic range expanded, but saying that you don't like HDR

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-20 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 7/20/2011 10:09, William Robb wrote: On 19/07/2011 12:17 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: I agree about the labeling or not. If the first thing someone notices is oh look that's HDR, how clever you've mucked it up. One could say the same thing about any genre of the arts though, especially

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-20 Thread Cotty
On 17/7/11, Tim Bray, discombobulated, unleashed: I normally hate HDR, but wow: https://plus.google.com/106289562822644692555/posts/L5Di5wanKvA Hate it! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 7/19/2011 01:50, William Robb wrote: On 18/07/2011 12:16 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Isn't calling tone mapping a separate process from HDR sort of like calling inhaling a separate process from breathing? You are technically correct, except that without it you don't have the overall process. :

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-19 Thread Darren Addy
William's shot is a nice image, but it appears to me that it was taken in a museum, under fluorescent lights with a wallpaper background. It that IS where it is taken (or something similar), then this is understandable and a nice representation of what was there. If it wasn't taken there and was

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 7/19/2011 09:52, Darren Addy wrote: William's shot is a nice image, but it appears to me that it was taken in a museum, under fluorescent lights with a wallpaper background. It that IS where it is taken (or something similar), then this is understandable and a nice representation of

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-19 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
mushy brown shadows look like a job in ms paint. On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On 7/19/2011 09:52, Darren Addy wrote: William's shot is a nice image, but it appears to me that it was taken in a museum, under fluorescent lights with a wallpaper

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Ann Sanfedele On 7/19/2011 09:52, Darren Addy wrote: William's shot is a nice image, but it appears to me that it was taken in a museum, under fluorescent lights with a wallpaper background. It that IS where it is taken (or something similar), then this is understandable and a nice

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill, I agree with John. It's a nice image and I prefer it to the truck/kiss. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:39 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele On 7/19/2011 09:52, Darren Addy wrote: William's shot is a nice image, but it appears to me that it

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-19 Thread Tom C
To me, HDR is extending the dynamic range of the image through the use of multiple exposures and then presenting more detail in the highlights and shadows than you could with a single image. I think the best (photorealistic) HDR does not scream HDR to you, but simply makes you go wow. The

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
On 7/19/2011 12:49, Tom C wrote: To me, HDR is extending the dynamic range of the image through the use of multiple exposures and then presenting more detail in the highlights and shadows than you could with a single image. I think the best (photorealistic) HDR does not scream HDR to you, but

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-19 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Kiss/truck To me, HDR is extending the dynamic range of the image through the use of multiple exposures and then presenting more detail in the highlights

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-18 Thread David J Brooks
I don't mind that shot Dave On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: I normally hate HDR, but wow: https://plus.google.com/106289562822644692555/posts/L5Di5wanKvA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-18 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 18 July 2011 05:48, Tim Bray wrote: I normally hate HDR, but wow: https://plus.google.com/106289562822644692555/posts/L5Di5wanKvA I agree about HDR - it's the new infra red. Both are good for the right picture, but are over used. This is one that works for me. Excellent. Chris -- PDML

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-18 Thread Darren Addy
I hate overcooked. This one is pretty darn good except for overcooking evident in the sky, the truck box and (especially his) clothing. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-18 Thread William Robb
On 18/07/2011 9:43 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I hate overcooked. This one is pretty darn good except for overcooking evident in the sky, the truck box and (especially his) clothing. I'll point out that what you don't like is tone mapping, which is a separate process from HDR. This is an unmapped

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-18 Thread Darren Addy
Isn't calling tone mapping a separate process from HDR sort of like calling inhaling a separate process from breathing? You are technically correct, except that without it you don't have the overall process. : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:19 AM, William Robb

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-18 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
both pictures linked here are so far out over the border of kitsch that it's hard to find terms to explain them, as is usually the case with hdr On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't calling tone mapping a separate process from HDR sort of like calling

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-18 Thread Darren Addy
I've expressed my opinion on this subject before, so I won't bore everyone again. Like nearly any form of artistic expression, I think anybody is free to do things anyway they like. I'm also free to like or dislike it. In my opinion, HDR has been ruined as label because of the stuff being done in

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-18 Thread Mark Cassino
there, but there is micro contrast. Sorta like the high-pass filter in photoshop made useable... - Original Message - From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 12:48 AM Subject: Kiss/truck I normally hate HDR, but wow

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
useable... - Original Message - From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 12:48 AM Subject: Kiss/truck I normally hate HDR, but wow: https://plus.google.com/106289562822644692555/posts/L5Di5wanKvA -- PDML

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele
The kiss/truck shot just makes me gag. Way too far over the top for me. The unmapped one below has a lot of clarity but is pretty boring. ann On 7/18/2011 12:19, William Robb wrote: On 18/07/2011 9:43 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I hate overcooked. This one is pretty darn good except

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-18 Thread Christine Aguila
List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:22 PM Subject: Re: Kiss/truck I like this shot, and I do like this kind of effect sometimes. The problem is that, too often, everything starts to look like this. On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Mark Cassino markcass...@ymail.com wrote: Cool shot

Re: Kiss/truck

2011-07-18 Thread William Robb
On 18/07/2011 12:16 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Isn't calling tone mapping a separate process from HDR sort of like calling inhaling a separate process from breathing? You are technically correct, except that without it you don't have the overall process. : ) You can tone map a single exposure if

Kiss/truck

2011-07-17 Thread Tim Bray
I normally hate HDR, but wow: https://plus.google.com/106289562822644692555/posts/L5Di5wanKvA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.