Re: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-18 Thread Derby Chang
Jens Bladt wrote: The term macro is used very loosely and tends to mean any photographic situation where you get close to the subject. Real macro photography is where you are working around 1:1 ratio and closer thereby giving an image on film that is equal in size or larger than the subject

Re: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-17 Thread John Whittingham
@pdml.net Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:52:07 - Subject: Re: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ? On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:31:16 -, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. Times and languages evolve, not always for the better! The technical term for that is under-statement. John

Re: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-17 Thread Gonz
The macro portion of this lens lets you get really close. Its quite nice actually, and the bokeh is superb IMO. I think its about 1:4 magnification, more on the digital. rg Igor Roshchin wrote: I am curious of what is the purpose of the macro range on this a 70-210 /4 lens:

Re: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The macro portion of this lens lets you get really close. Its quite nice actually, and the bokeh is superb IMO. I think its about 1:4 magnification, more on the digital. I think 1:4 is right, but it's the same on digital as on film. -- Mark Roberts

Re: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-17 Thread John Whittingham
I think 1:4 is right, but it's the same on digital as on film. Yes, absolutely. Only the AoV is altered. Regards, John John Whittingham Technician you can't be optimistic with a misty optic

Re: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-17 Thread Gonz
True. I just looks bigger because we are digitally magnifying it through the crop factor. But the image projected on the film plane is obviously the same. rg Mark Roberts wrote: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The macro portion of this lens lets you get really close. Its quite nice

Re: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-16 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Igor Roshchin wrote: I've noticed this when that auction was still active, but was afraid to violate the rule related to pointing to an active eBay auction. Good man... Thanks Igor. Kostas

Re: SV: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-16 Thread Igor Roshchin
Jens, Thank you. I know what macro is. I probably didn't formulate my question clearly enough. The KMP site does not list this lens as having a macro capability, Pentax does not call it macro either. So, I was not sure if the lens had that capability or not, or why otherwise it had macro

Re: SV: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-16 Thread John Whittingham
Hope this helps, best regards, John John Whittingham Technician you can't be optimistic with a misty optic -- Original Message --- From: Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 05:22:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: SV: Macro in A 70-210 f/4

Re: SV: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-16 Thread Igor Roshchin
Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:37:21 -0800 John Whittingham wrote: So, I am still a bit confused, why the lens is not called macro? Because it is macro only @70mm? A true Macro lens would be capable of a 1:1 life size or greater (on the film negative) magnification and be genuine Macro, the 70-210

Re: SV: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-16 Thread John Whittingham
So, when Tamron or Sigma lenses are called macro, but have a reproduction ratio of 1:2 (say Tamron 70-300) or 1:2.9 (Sigma 28/1.8, Tamron 28-300/3.5-5.6), - this is a frivolous use of the term. They should've been called close focus capable. Correct? I guess it would come down to a matter

Re: SV: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-16 Thread P. J. Alling
Macro is one of those devalued terms. I always thought that Macro photography started at a reproduction ration of about 1:2 to about 2:1. Higher magnifications become micro photography. Igor Roshchin wrote: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:37:21 -0800 John Whittingham wrote: So, I am still a bit

Re: SV: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-16 Thread P. J. Alling
You must remember that anyone can post to wikapedia, so any information found there must be weighed carefully. Igor Roshchin wrote: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 02:37:21 -0800 John Whittingham wrote: So, I am still a bit confused, why the lens is not called macro? Because it is macro only @70mm?

Re: SV: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-16 Thread Adam Maas
Igor Roshchin wrote: Yes, this makes it clearer. Thank you! So, when Tamron or Sigma lenses are called macro, but have a reproduction ratio of 1:2 (say Tamron 70-300) or 1:2.9 (Sigma 28/1.8, Tamron 28-300/3.5-5.6), - this is a frivolous use of the term. They should've been called close

RE: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-16 Thread Jens Bladt
of excellent images! Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Igor Roshchin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. januar 2006 01:13 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ? I am curious of what is the purpose of the macro range on this a 70-210 /4

Re: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Freds example shots, this lens seem to be capable of excellent images! I think this is the lens Charles Braswell has used to win Best of Show at Grandfather Mountain a couple of times. http://www.grandfather.com/events/nphoto_2005.htm

RE: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-16 Thread Jens Bladt
PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. januar 2006 15:50 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: SV: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ? Macro is one of those devalued terms. I always thought that Macro photography started at a reproduction ration of about 1:2 to about 2:1. Higher magnifications become micro photography. Igor

RE: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-16 Thread John Whittingham
IIRC the true definition of Macro (from an old dictionary/thesaurus) = Larger Than Life. Times and languages evolve, not always for the better! Best regards, John John Whittingham Technician you can't be optimistic with a misty optic

Re: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-16 Thread John Forbes
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:31:16 -, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. Times and languages evolve, not always for the better! The technical term for that is under-statement. John -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

Re: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-16 Thread P. J. Alling
:-) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. januar 2006 15:50 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: SV: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ? Macro is one of those devalued terms. I always thought that Macro photography

Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-15 Thread Igor Roshchin
I am curious of what is the purpose of the macro range on this a 70-210 /4 lens: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=7579235076ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT - see the second image in the first raw: http://i18.ebayimg.com/03/i/05/c3/47/14_1.JPG KMP page doesn't mention any macro

Re: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-15 Thread Fred
I am curious of what is the purpose of the macro range on this a 70-210 /4 lens: It's for the so-called macro function that all A 70-210/4's (as far as I know) have. It functions at the 70mm FL setting, and allows magnification to 1/4x. (It's better, both in resolution and higher

Re: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-15 Thread Fred
I am curious of what is the purpose of the macro range on this a 70-210 /4 lens: It's for the so-called macro function that all A 70-210/4's (as far as I know) have. It functions at the 70mm FL setting, and allows magnification to 1/4x. (It's better, both in resolution and higher

Re: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-15 Thread Igor Roshchin
Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:31:22 -0800 Fred writes: I am curious of what is the purpose of the macro range on this a 70-210 /4 lens: It's for the so-called macro function that all A 70-210/4's (as far as I know) have. It functions at the 70mm FL setting, and allows magnification to 1/4x.

SV: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-15 Thread Jens Bladt
Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Igor Roshchin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. januar 2006 01:13 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ? I am curious of what is the purpose of the macro range on this a 70-210 /4 lens: http

Re: SV: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ?

2006-01-15 Thread John Francis
Roshchin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. januar 2006 01:13 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Macro in A 70-210 f/4 ? I am curious of what is the purpose of the macro range on this a 70-210 /4 lens: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=7579235076ssPageNam e