From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/01/25 Wed AM 04:32:34 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Kodachrome 25
On 24 Jan 2006 at 21:35, mike wilson wrote:
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No, but it's enough to reproduce a film look. While a digital
recreation
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snicker
You could even argue that not reproducing the way that certain
shades of orange tended to show up as purple on some films is
a plus - you're recreating the ideal version of the film as it
should have been, not how it actually behaved.
snack
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/01/25 Wed AM 03:56:55 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT: Kodachrome 25
This is most likely what I need to do. Once I figure it out, I'll
just apply the same manipulations to every image and then fine tune
them as needed
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 08:25:49AM +, mike wilson wrote:
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snicker
You could even argue that not reproducing the way that certain
shades of orange tended to show up as purple on some films is
a plus - you're recreating the ideal version of the
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/01/25 Wed AM 08:44:22 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Re: OT: Kodachrome 25
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 08:25:49AM +, mike wilson wrote:
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snicker
You could even argue
John Francis wrote:
I think you should do a little more research.
Metamerism is a general term to describe the way that
different colours appear to a sensor (usually the eye)
when viewed under different lighting conditions.
Thats better. Thats how I interpret the term. Your initial post
John Francis wrote:
Anyway, just ignore the big words and consider the
example I gave. If a colour patch illuminated by two
different lights maps to the same tristimulus value
for a given sensor (such as, say, the RAW readings)
then there's nothing you can do from then on to find
out whether
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 10:48:06AM -0600, Gonz wrote:
John Francis wrote:
Anyway, just ignore the big words and consider the
example I gave. If a colour patch illuminated by two
different lights maps to the same tristimulus value
for a given sensor (such as, say, the RAW readings)
From: Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/01/24 Tue AM 07:00:05 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: OT: Kodachrome 25
I just spent some time looking through some portraits taken with
Kodachrome 25 from the late 70s or early 80s. That's right,
portraits. The color
On Jan 24, 2006, at 2:00 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:
I just spent some time looking through some portraits taken with
Kodachrome 25 from the late 70s or early 80s. That's right,
portraits. The color is amazing. Anyone have a recommendation how I
might achieve this look today?
Funny you
With enough time and patience, you can copy any tint/saturation
level/contrast level through digital manipulation.
Paul
On Jan 24, 2006, at 2:00 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:
I just spent some time looking through some portraits taken with
Kodachrome 25 from the late 70s or early 80s. That's
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Bob Shell wrote:
Funny you should ask that, Scott. Alien Skin Software today introduced
Exposure. Part of this Photoshop plug-in is a suite of filters that emulate
the look of specific films. Kodachrome 25 is there. They even have a filter
to emulate the old GAF 500
Bob Shell wrote:
Funny you should ask that, Scott. Alien Skin Software today introduced
Exposure. Part of this Photoshop plug-in is a suite of filters that
emulate the look of specific films. Kodachrome 25 is there. They even
have a filter to emulate the old GAF 500 slide film from the
On 1/24/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just spent some time looking through some portraits taken with
Kodachrome 25 from the late 70s or early 80s. That's right,
portraits. The color is amazing. Anyone have a recommendation how I
might achieve this look today?
If you're on
And then you can put on sale your Jollyplays plug-ins.
Dario
Steve Jolly wrote:
Bob Shell wrote:
Funny you should ask that, Scott. Alien Skin Software today introduced
Exposure. Part of this Photoshop plug-in is a suite of filters that
emulate the look of specific films. Kodachrome 25 is
Dario Bonazza wrote:
And then you can put on sale your Jollyplays plug-ins.
Heh, you don't think that people might be more tempted to pay me to
delete the plugins and then burn the hard disk to ashes? ;-)
S
How much do you ask for doing that? ;-)
Dario
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Kodachrome 25
Dario Bonazza wrote:
And then you can put on sale your Jollyplays plug-ins
But that's not really enough to reproduce a film characteristic.
As we all know, colour film (and the human eye, and digital
sensors, and digital colour spaces) are tri-stimulus systems;
any particular colour is reduced to three measured values.
The real world, though, is not so discrete - it's
No, but it's enough to reproduce a film look. While a digital recreation of a
Kocacolor or Velvia or what-have-you look may not replicate every color the
same way the film would, the overall look and feel can be duplicated quite
easily. Extreme technical accuracy isn't necessary in order to
It sounds like the ideal place to do some type of film characteristic
mapping is through the RAW sensor data, before it has been combined
through the Bayer interpolation. I.e. modify the Bayer mechanism to
mimic a film type.
rg
John Francis wrote:
But that's not really enough to reproduce
I love Kocacolor!
lol
Dario
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Kodachrome 25
No, but it's enough to reproduce a film look. While a digital recreation
of a Kocacolor or Velvia or what-have
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, but it's enough to reproduce a film look. While a digital recreation of a
Kocacolor or Velvia or what-have-you look may not replicate every color the same way the
film would, the overall look and feel can be duplicated quite easily. Extreme technical
accuracy
That doesn't help. You're still reducing a continuous spectrum
to a single sample value. Whether that's still just at the
single sensor site in the RAW file, or has been interpolated
to a component in an RGB value, makes no difference.
Consider that 'yellow light or red/green light' case
Your information is not true from what I can find about metamerism. For
more information about metamerism, see
http://www.colourware.co.uk/cpfaq/q5-2.htm
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamerism_(color)
Metamerism is related to reflective, or illuminative isomorphisms and
not to spectral
I think you should do a little more research.
Metamerism is a general term to describe the way that
different colours appear to a sensor (usually the eye)
when viewed under different lighting conditions.
As such it applies equally well to the spectral-to-
single-sample contractive mapping (and
On 24 Jan 2006 at 21:35, mike wilson wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, but it's enough to reproduce a film look. While a digital recreation
of a Kocacolor or Velvia or what-have-you look may not replicate every
color the same way the film would, the overall look and feel can be
I just downloaded the demo version. The samples on their site look
nice, but I can't see spending $200 for a package when I'll most
likely use only one filter. I'm going to try it out, though, just to
see what else it will do for me. Thanks, Bob.
On 1/24/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is most likely what I need to do. Once I figure it out, I'll
just apply the same manipulations to every image and then fine tune
them as needed. I am currently photoshop illiterate. Any suggestions
where I might start?
On 1/24/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With enough time
Thanks, Wendy. Got it. I'll try them soon.
On 1/24/06, wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/24/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just spent some time looking through some portraits taken with
Kodachrome 25 from the late 70s or early 80s. That's right,
portraits. The
I just spent some time looking through some portraits taken with
Kodachrome 25 from the late 70s or early 80s. That's right,
portraits. The color is amazing. Anyone have a recommendation how I
might achieve this look today?
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