RE: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-24 Thread John Sessoms
From: Cotty Hi folks, Last month I went to Auschwitz and filmed a large school party on a visit there. Some might be interested to see a 22 minute film I put together - my personal thoughts about what I saw and filmed. or direct on Vimeo:

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/12/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: >One of the most powerful videos I've ever seen. I'm not too much of a >man to admit that I cried throughout much of it. Frank, thanks for your very touching words. It means a lot to me. Cheers. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-17 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Cotty wrote: > Hi folks, > > Last month I went to Auschwitz and filmed a large school party on a > visit there. Some might be interested to see a 22 minute film I put > together - my personal thoughts about what I saw and filmed. > >

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-17 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Cotty wrote: > Hi folks, > > Last month I went to Auschwitz and filmed a large school party on a > visit there. Some might be interested to see a 22 minute film I put > together - my personal thoughts about what I saw and filmed. > >

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/12/10, Doug Franklin, discombobulated, unleashed: > The odds are none of those >teenagers had ever talked to an actual survivor of the camps, or even >first generation descendants As part of their course, they met with and listened to a survivor of Auschwitz, but I take your point. -- Ch

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-17 Thread mike wilson
On 16 December 2010 23:59, Bob W wrote: > [...]> > Yes of course Mike. Thanks. I must admit, they seemed quite stoic. >> Were >> > the groups of your quite young? In this day and age it seems >> teenagers >> > grow up almost too quickly what with the internet... >> >> About the same as an average,

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-16 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 08:39:03PM -0500, paul stenquist wrote: > > Taking action against another country -- even one that engages in genocide -- > is frowned upon these days. Those who take action against the perpetrators > are themselves cast as the aggressors, so there is no longer any feasib

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Doug, You are right. I would add that it is also a matter of age and experience. At 16-20 you are immortal and have no life experience to speak of. With 25-50 more years of experience, you recognize what was lost. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: > On 2010-1

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-16 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-12-16 18:59, Bob W wrote: About the same as an average, with one or two older ones. It was 16-20 years ago, so maybe there is something in the idea that youngsters today are inured. I sincerely hope not. I think you have to bear in mind that the camps were liberated 65 years ago. P

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-16 Thread paul stenquist
On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Bob W wrote: > [...]> > Yes of course Mike. Thanks. I must admit, they seemed quite stoic. >> Were >>> the groups of your quite young? In this day and age it seems >> teenagers >>> grow up almost too quickly what with the internet... >> >> About the same as an averag

RE: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-16 Thread Bob W
[...]> > Yes of course Mike. Thanks. I must admit, they seemed quite stoic. > Were > > the groups of your quite young? In this day and age it seems > teenagers > > grow up almost too quickly what with the internet... > > About the same as an average, with one or two older ones. It was > 16-20 yea

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-16 Thread mike wilson
On 15 December 2010 17:30, Cotty wrote: > On 15/12/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Your group had remarkable composure;  the hammer blow of seeing the >>belongings was enough to start the crying in the groups I took there and >>only one of four groups made it to II.  The rest were

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-16 Thread eckinator
2010/12/16 eckinator : >> >> i'd guess a lot of those images would be from palestine, gaza, west >> bank > > [...]... make Israel look pretty moderate by comparison or did I get you wrong and you were in fact referring to the hatred taught in Kindergarten by Hamas? Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discus

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-16 Thread eckinator
Not to ignore you video, Mr Cottington, I will watch it as soon as I get a chance Thanks for sharing Ecke 2010/12/14 Cotty : > Hi folks, > > Last month I went to Auschwitz and filmed a large school party on a > visit there. Some might be interested to see a 22 minute film I put > together - my per

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-16 Thread eckinator
2010/12/16 Subash : > "Bob W" wrote: >> >> more likely they've been so bombarded with similar images of current >> events all their lives that they tune it out. > > i'd guess a lot of those images would be from palestine, gaza, west > bank doubt it - while there are bad things happening there

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/12/10, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: >Very moving, sir. As always, very well shot and edited. The shadow of >the plane moving across the Polish countryside at the beginning and the >flaring orbs at the end bookend it dramatically. > >I'm left to wonder if the teenagers understa

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-16 Thread Cotty
On 15/12/10, Walter Gilbert, discombobulated, unleashed: >I was struck by the reactions of the students you interviewed. It just >seemed to me that, while they did take away a lesson from the trip, the >sheer enormity of the abomination was still a bit beyond their grasp. I >suppose at that age,

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-15 Thread Subash
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 23:59:50 - "Bob W" wrote: > > I'm left to wonder if the teenagers understand what they saw at > > Auschwitz. They appear to be rather unemotional. Perhaps they are > > too far removed from the horrors of the holocaust to feel it deeply. > > Perhaps it's as impersonal to th

RE: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-15 Thread Bob W
> I'm left to wonder if the teenagers understand what they saw at > Auschwitz. They appear to be rather unemotional. Perhaps they are too > far removed from the horrors of the holocaust to feel it deeply. > Perhaps it's as impersonal to them as the Spanish Inquisition was to > our generation. Too s

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very moving, sir. As always, very well shot and edited. The shadow of the plane moving across the Polish countryside at the beginning and the flaring orbs at the end bookend it dramatically. I'm left to wonder if the teenagers understand what they saw at Auschwitz. They appear to be rather unem

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-15 Thread Derby Chang
On 15/12/2010 9:05 AM, Cotty wrote: Hi folks, Last month I went to Auschwitz and filmed a large school party on a visit there. Some might be interested to see a 22 minute film I put together - my personal thoughts about what I saw and filmed. or d

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-15 Thread Walter Gilbert
I watched it last night, Cotty. Very sobering. I was struck by the reactions of the students you interviewed. It just seemed to me that, while they did take away a lesson from the trip, the sheer enormity of the abomination was still a bit beyond their grasp. I suppose at that age, I might

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/12/10, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: >That's an excellent video, sad and sobering. >It's made more powerful by the music/prayers and your voice overs. >I don't think I'll ever get there but you really shared the experience. >It should be mandatory viewing for our high school clas

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Cotty, That's an excellent video, sad and sobering. It's made more powerful by the music/prayers and your voice overs. I don't think I'll ever get there but you really shared the experience. It should be mandatory viewing for our high school classes and all those adults who deny it happened. Thanks

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/12/10, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: >Your group had remarkable composure; the hammer blow of seeing the >belongings was enough to start the crying in the groups I took there and >only one of four groups made it to II. The rest were to distraught to >even consider it. > >May I p

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/12/10, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: >Well done, sir. But I told you that already. Do you mind if I also share >the link? Thanks Boris, please do. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com ___

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/12/10, Theodore Beilby, discombobulated, unleashed: >Very powerfull Cotty. Is it ok to send links to others for them to see? Thanks Ted, yes of course. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/12/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: >I assume that it's OK to share the link? Thanks, by all means. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Li

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-15 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote: Hi folks, Last month I went to Auschwitz and filmed a large school party on a visit there. Some might be interested to see a 22 minute film I put together - my personal thoughts about what I saw and filmed. or direct on Vimeo:

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-14 Thread Boris Liberman
On 12/15/2010 12:05 AM, Cotty wrote: Hi folks, Last month I went to Auschwitz and filmed a large school party on a visit there. Some might be interested to see a 22 minute film I put together - my personal thoughts about what I saw and filmed. or

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-14 Thread Theodore Beilby
Very powerfull Cotty. Is it ok to send links to others for them to see? Ted  "The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer." Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-14 Thread Walter Gilbert
Just stepping out, so I can't watch it just now. But, I've bookmarked the page because I'm really looking forward to watching this. -- Walt On 12/14/2010 4:05 PM, Cotty wrote: Hi folks, Last month I went to Auschwitz and filmed a large school party on a visit there. Some might be interested

Re: OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-14 Thread Larry Colen
On Dec 14, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Cotty wrote: > Hi folks, > > Last month I went to Auschwitz and filmed a large school party on a > visit there. Some might be interested to see a 22 minute film I put > together - my personal thoughts about what I saw and filmed. > >

OT - Auschwitz: A Cameraman's Cut

2010-12-14 Thread Cotty
Hi folks, Last month I went to Auschwitz and filmed a large school party on a visit there. Some might be interested to see a 22 minute film I put together - my personal thoughts about what I saw and filmed. or direct on Vimeo: