Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-25 Thread Eactivist
It used to be that saving for web did not use as good a compression algorithm as just saving as a jpg. I guess that's changed, not sure. But you are remembering correctly, because a while back (maybe a long while back) I heard that too. Marnie I never save for web. And I tend to save at ei

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-24 Thread Rob Studdert
Facebook clobbers metadata in any case. The best method to preserve image quality apart from saving as PNG is to stick to the FB standard image dimensions to limit the effect of resizing engines. https://www.facebook.com/CoverPhotoSize?filter=2 On 24 January 2014 10:13, Bruce wrote: > When you

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread Bruce
When you create an album to upload to, there is an option to make it Hi-Res. All images uploaded to it are not mangled as badly. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad > On Jan 23, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > Photoshelter posted a nice article on how to get around the terrible > quality-m

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Well I want all copies of any photo , whatever the format, to have the same info imbedded - and Larry actually mentioned a few good reasons - with me it is jsut a filing cabinet kind of thing ann On 1/23/2014 17:02, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jan 23, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: M

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Well I went back and did a save for web on a file and learned that I could see the camera data.. and copyright.. Hmmm... wonder if that was so way back in elements 2.0 and I just never checked again. someonw lingering in the back of my socalled brain I read something about saving in jpg but n

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 05:02:04PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > On Jan 23, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > Maybe I'm misusing the term meta-data.. if I save for web in > > adobe photoshop 5.0 the camera data disappears. so perhaps camera data is > > not "meta-data” > > > You

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Well I'm just saying that's how I save files when I put them on face book - whether or no the 300 ppi or 72 ppi has practically "no meaning" for my web page the images are 4 or 5 mgs 300ppi, and _if printed_ they would be, say, 12" x 8. The same image, if I save it with a width of 800 px and

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jan 23, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > Maybe I'm misusing the term meta-data.. if I save for web in > adobe photoshop 5.0 the camera data disappears. so perhaps camera data is not > "meta-data” > You were correct. The camera data is meta data. I just don’t see the point of savin

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread David Parsons
Camera data is metadata On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > Maybe I'm misusing the term meta-data.. if I save for web in > adobe photoshop 5.0 the camera data disappears. so perhaps camera data is > not "meta-data" > > ann > > > On 1/23/2014 16:26, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >>

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Maybe I'm misusing the term meta-data.. if I save for web in adobe photoshop 5.0 the camera data disappears. so perhaps camera data is not "meta-data" ann On 1/23/2014 16:26, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jan 23, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: OTOH - improving the quality there may le

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jan 23, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > > >> I do “save for web” on all my web-sized images. The only meta data lost is >> informational specs as far as I know. > > With recent versions of Photoshop you can choose what metadata is > retained and what is di

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: >I do “save for web” on all my web-sized images. The only meta data lost is >informational specs as far as I know. With recent versions of Photoshop you can choose what metadata is retained and what is discarded when you "Save for Web". You can choose: • Just copyright d

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Jan 23, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > OTOH - improving the quality there may lead to more photo swiping. > > I send Facebook on jpgs at 72 ppi and no larger than 800 px across.. > but I don't do "save for web" because that clobbers some meta-data. > > ann I do “save for web” on

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread Igor Roshchin
Ann, just in case: "ppi" dor a digital image has practically no meaning. That's definitely the case when you upload images to FB. It's only the total number of pixels that matters. Igor Thu Jan 23 15:36:09 EST 2014 Ann Sanfedele wrote: > OTOH - improving the quality there may lead to more phot

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele
OTOH - improving the quality there may lead to more photo swiping. I send Facebook on jpgs at 72 ppi and no larger than 800 px across.. but I don't do "save for web" because that clobbers some meta-data. ann On 1/23/2014 14:57, Bruce Walker wrote: Photoshelter posted a nice article on how to g

Re: OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread Walt
Excellent. Thanks, Bruce! My experience with Facebook has been that the sharper the image is, the more atrocious it looks when you upload it to Facebook. -- Walt On 1/23/2014 1:57 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Photoshelter posted a nice article on how to get around the terrible quality-mangling c

OT - how to avoid Facebook image mangling

2014-01-23 Thread Bruce Walker
Photoshelter posted a nice article on how to get around the terrible quality-mangling compression artifacts that Facebook introduces when you upload images there. Curiously, the easy answer is upload PNG files! Very counterintuitive, but apparently it helps. http://blog.photoshelter.com/2014/01/fa