Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-11 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 10, 2012, at 21:21 , William Robb wrote: Seems to me that if the copyright owner isn't able to supply you with a print, they have pretty much invalidated any claim they could make for damages. That's another way to express it. There is no one alive to ask that permission. The

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-11 Thread William Robb
On 11/06/2012 2:04 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jun 10, 2012, at 21:21 , William Robb wrote: Seems to me that if the copyright owner isn't able to supply you with a print, they have pretty much invalidated any claim they could make for damages. That's another way to express it. There is

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-11 Thread John Sessoms
With the explosive growth of self publishing the internet has engendered, there are far too few would be authors who understand there is a difference between option (c) and option (d). No one wants to pay for content on the internet. Too many people wrongly assume If I can see it on the

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-11 Thread John Sessoms
On Jun 10, 2012, at 21:21 , William Robb wrote: Seems to me that if the copyright owner isn't able to supply you with a print, they have pretty much invalidated any claim they could make for damages. That's another way to express it. There is no one alive to ask that permission. The company

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-11 Thread steve harley
on 2012-06-10 12:20 Stan Halpin wrote c. I could find open source license-free artwork/photos I could use; i don't think you've got quite the right terminology; while some may be literally license free, there are also many photos _with_ licenses whose terms are very flexible for re-use; you

RE: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread Bob W
Sent: 10 June 2012 03:40 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT Not worth paying for An author of dog training books contacted my wife about a picture I took of my wife and our late Doberman. The author wanted to use the picture in a book she is writing. My wife respects the author and liked

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread David Savage
give the book away, why should you give the photo away? B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Hunt Sent: 10 June 2012 03:40 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT Not worth paying for An author of dog training books

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
Most dog pics are taken by the dog owner, so I suspect the book author won't have much trouble getting enough photos that come with the photographersapproval. I understand why you would say no since you take your photography seriously, but for the vast majority, having a photo of their dog in

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Most dog pics are taken by the dog owner, so I suspect the book author won't have much trouble getting enough photos that come with the photographersapproval. There's lots of professional photography at dog shows

RE: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Hunt [...] The author declined these terms. You see, she plans to use hundreds of photographs, and clearly it would be too expensive to agree to such terms. (Since the author is seeking permission from the

RE: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Matthew Hunt conesla...@gmail.com Sent: June 9, 2012 6/9/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT Not worth paying for An author of dog training books contacted my wife about a picture I took of my wife and our

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread P. J. Alling
in your shoes. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Matthew Hunt conesla...@gmail.com Sent: June 9, 2012 6/9/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT Not worth paying

RE: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob W From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Hunt [...] The author declined these terms. You see, she plans to use hundreds of photographs, and clearly it would be too expensive to agree to such terms. (Since the author is seeking permission

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread William Robb
On 10/06/2012 12:26 AM, Bob W wrote: -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Hunt Sent: 10 June 2012 03:40 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: OT Not worth paying for An author of dog training books contacted my wife

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:31 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering, did she even offer photo credit? Since she didn't ask who the photographer was, it seems unlikely. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread William Robb
On 10/06/2012 6:12 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Most dog pics are taken by the dog owner, so I suspect the book author won't have much trouble getting enough photos that come with the photographersapproval. There's

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread P. J. Alling
William Robb wrote: On 10/06/2012 6:12 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Most dog pics are taken by the dog owner, so I suspect the book author won't have much trouble getting enough photos that come with the

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread P. J. Alling
It was what I expected. Matthew Hunt wrote: On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:31 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering, did she even offer photo credit? Since she didn't ask who the photographer was, it seems unlikely. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms I wonder how expensive a copyright suit would be, if only one of those photographers whose copyright she might infringe were to sue. If the copyright is registered the infringer has to pay all of the

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread Stan Halpin
On Jun 9, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: An author of dog training books contacted my wife about a picture I took of my wife and our late Doberman. The author wanted to use the picture in a book she is writing. My wife respects the author and liked the idea of being in the book, but

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread Joseph McAllister
Send her my way. As most of you already know, I photographed Dogs at Play for my MobileMe gallery for more than three years, placing all the viewable images to the tune of 2k - 4k per year, all of them downloadable at a reduced resolution. Still printable as 8 x 10, I believe (never checked).

Re: OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-10 Thread William Robb
On 10/06/2012 3:38 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: Not that I think my imagery is that good to deserve this restriction, but I'd like the picture thieves to get the message for all of our shots displayed online. They belong to the copyright holder. Be nice. Ask. On my recent 50 day trip

OT Not worth paying for

2012-06-09 Thread Matthew Hunt
An author of dog training books contacted my wife about a picture I took of my wife and our late Doberman. The author wanted to use the picture in a book she is writing. My wife respects the author and liked the idea of being in the book, but I didn't want to give away a photograph for a book to