Re: OT rant Flash!

2007-09-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 19, 2007, at 13:17, Mark Roberts wrote: I feel your pain. I continue to assign an F to any of my students who makes a web site that uses Flash without providing standard, non-Flash alternative functionality. Shall I send you a copy nect time it happens? ;-) I used to strive for

Re: OT rant Flash!

2007-09-19 Thread dglenn
Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bandwidth is dirt cheap for commercial sites, and even cheaper for non-rural consumers. I can get multi-meg Ethernet for less than a T1 cost 4-5 years ago. So why load sites down so much that it feels like I'm still on dialup, eh? ;-) (More importantly:

Re: OT rant Flash!

2007-09-19 Thread Adam Maas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bandwidth is dirt cheap for commercial sites, and even cheaper for non-rural consumers. I can get multi-meg Ethernet for less than a T1 cost 4-5 years ago. So why load sites down so much that it feels like I'm still on dialup,

Re: OT rant Flash!

2007-09-19 Thread Igor Roshchin
I agree with all people who dislike the website navigation done with Flash. I believe, that it is just one of those waves. Earlier, we've seen animated gifs all over the websites with things jumping at you; background music playing as long as your browser is open with a particular page,

Re: OT rant Flash!

2007-09-19 Thread Igor Roshchin
Adam, For what it's worth, - see this opinion: http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=222044cid=17992648 Let me quote from there just one point relevant to the text browsers: (the author of that comment also discusses the screen size issue) ''For example, if you are operating a Web site in the

Re: OT rant Flash!

2007-09-19 Thread graywolf
I admit that I do not bother worrying about Lynx compatability any longer. I have not met anyone who even knew what it is in years. For those reading this who do not, it is a text based web browser. Charles Robinson wrote: On Sep 19, 2007, at 13:17, Mark Roberts wrote: I feel your pain. I

OT rant Flash!

2007-09-19 Thread P. J. Alling
rant I mean what the F***. What is it about current web design and Flash! All this talk about Leicas gave me the idea that I might like to know more about current Leica offerings so I decided to visit the Leica web site. It's bad enough when there's a Flash into taking up bandwidth on a

Re: OT rant Flash!

2007-09-19 Thread Cotty
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Re: OT rant Flash!

2007-09-19 Thread Adam Maas
Bandwidth is cheap, and flash is better than HTML for presentation control. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: rant I mean what the F***. What is it about current web design and Flash! All this talk about Leicas gave me the idea that I might like to know more about current Leica offerings so I

Re: OT rant Flash!

2007-09-19 Thread P. J. Alling
On a freeking commercial website? If someone wants to steal photos of Leica Products with their name blazoned across them I'd let them. It's free advertising. Bandwidth isn't that cheap and Flash is a decided security risk. Adam Maas wrote: Bandwidth is cheap, and flash is better than HTML

Re: OT rant Flash!

2007-09-19 Thread Adam Maas
Bandwidth is dirt cheap for commercial sites, and even cheaper for non-rural consumers. I can get multi-meg Ethernet for less than a T1 cost 4-5 years ago. It's not about stealing photo's, it's about ensuring that your site looks the way you designed it. The easiest way to make sure your site

Re: OT rant Flash!

2007-09-19 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: rant I mean what the F***. What is it about current web design and Flash! The ignorant veeps who *decide* what goes on the corporate web site like Flash because it's, well, flashy. It impresses people who have no knowledge of more important things like usability. Web