Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread mike wilson
John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: AKA Lewis Carrol. There really was an Alice, and she was underage when Dodgson photographed her and wrote his masterwork. Over the years, there has been some controversy regarding his behavior and intentions. There is no age of consent for

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
i do still percieve it that way, btw. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: AKA Lewis Carrol. There really was an Alice, and she was underage when Dodgson photographed her and wrote his masterwork. Over the

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread mike wilson
Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: i do still percieve it that way, btw. Most people probably do. There is, however, a distorted mindset that equates nudity exclusively with sexual activity. Sadly, the owners of such mindsets have a more than equal say in what passes for

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread eckinator
RANT ON Yes and no - I think a) protecting children has become more of an issue because child sexual abuse even though it has always been there is now - fortunately a high profile issue in most countries - unfortunately happening more often (or hopefully people only talk about it more but I feel

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/5/2009 2:12:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com writes: There really was an Alice, and she was underage when Dodgson photographed her and wrote his masterwork. Over the years, there has been some controversy regarding his behavior and intentions.

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread mike wilson
eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/5/2009 2:12:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com writes: There really was an Alice, and she was underage when Dodgson photographed her and wrote his masterwork. Over the years, there has been some controversy

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread John Sessoms
From: Luka Knezevic-Strika i do still percieve it that way, btw. On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: AKA Lewis Carrol. There really was an Alice, and she was underage when Dodgson photographed her and

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
What he said!Doubled. On Oct 5, 2009, at 03:57 , eckinator wrote: RANT ON Yes and no - I think a) protecting children has become more of an issue because child sexual abuse even though it has always been there is now - fortunately a high profile issue in most countries - unfortunately

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/3/2009 7:11:12 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lukastr...@gmail.com writes: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ == Definitely a good shot, but I have a negative reaction to it. She looks about 10-11, but is posing like a model

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
hm, i positively hate those 'child model' things. but all i've ever seen as their visual presentation have been very unnaturaly looking shot with a wanna-be glamorous atmosphere and blah-blah. i felt that the spontaneity of the situation was preserved to a certain extent with this photo. maybe i

RE: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Bob W
hm, i positively hate those 'child model' things. but all i've ever seen as their visual presentation have been very unnaturaly looking shot with a wanna-be glamorous atmosphere and blah-blah. i felt that the spontaneity of the situation was preserved to a certain extent with this

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread paul stenquist
On Oct 4, 2009, at 5:54 AM, Bob W wrote: hm, i positively hate those 'child model' things. but all i've ever seen as their visual presentation have been very unnaturaly looking shot with a wanna-be glamorous atmosphere and blah-blah. i felt that the spontaneity of the situation was preserved

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Christine Aguila
, October 04, 2009 4:54 AM Subject: RE: PESO: Anja hm, i positively hate those 'child model' things. but all i've ever seen as their visual presentation have been very unnaturaly looking shot with a wanna-be glamorous atmosphere and blah-blah. i felt that the spontaneity of the situation

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/4/2009 2:30:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lukastr...@gmail.com writes: hm, i positively hate those 'child model' things. but all i've ever seen as their visual presentation have been very unnaturaly looking shot with a wanna-be glamorous atmosphere and blah-blah. i felt

RE: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Bob W
is also hers) That was my initial reaction, probably because her pose is sort of modelish. Now that I know she was playing dress up that changes things. Doesn't help, see, that she verges on being beautiful, the way many of those baby pageant girls do. So when you put make

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread John Sessoms
From: Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 10/3/2009 7:11:12 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lukastr...@gmail.com writes: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ == Definitely a good shot, but I have a negative reaction to it. She looks about 10-11, but

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
There's been significant news recently about a certain photographer who should have never been allowed to be alone with young girls. well, i assure you that i'm interested only in her oldest sister and she is an adult :) @bob: it is very nice to read such positive comments, if there is one

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Mark Roberts
John Sessoms wrote: There's been significant news recently about a certain photographer who should have never been allowed to be alone with young girls. Charles Dodgson? Bah, old news... ;-) I think Luka's photo is very, very good, though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
i have no idea who charles dodgson is :) i'm guessing you're making a joke and that john was speaking of Polanski, but who knows and thanks, mark On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: John Sessoms wrote: There's been significant news recently about a certain

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread eckinator
Yes I think we are all in agreement about that. It is a mover =) 2009/10/4 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com: I think Luka's photo is very, very good, though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
but it still like getting a fix to me, the author accross the sea :P On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 8:43 PM, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I think we are all in agreement about that. It is a mover =) 2009/10/4 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com: I think Luka's photo is very, very good,

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
I'd also like to recommend the two groups where it got accepted on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/groups/the-hit/pool/ http://www.flickr.com/groups/lfa/pool/ good stuff, makes me happy when i get a shot there, almost as much as when i get into hcsp (which is just the hardest, so it's rarer :))

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Adam Maas
Charles Dodgson was better known by his pen name, Lewis Carroll. He wrote Alice in Wonderland among other things. -Adam On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: i have no idea who charles dodgson is :) i'm guessing you're making a joke and that john was

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
aha! ok, now i get it :D On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Charles Dodgson was better known by his pen name, Lewis Carroll. He wrote Alice in Wonderland among other things. -Adam On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote:

RE: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Bob W
He is also well known for the photos he took of Alice Liddell and her sisters. Some people consider them a bit paedo, which is why he's mentioned in this thread. http://www.artfund.org/artwork/8494/8-photographs-of-the-liddell-children Charles Dodgson was better known by his pen name, Lewis

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
not terrible interesting photos, except for their vintageness, but i really see nothing wrong. it's all in the eyes of the beholder, i guess On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: He is also well known for the photos he took of Alice Liddell and her sisters. Some

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Tim Øsleby
2009/10/3 Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ The 6x7 seem to love you back :-) -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread Derby Chang
Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ Beautiful, and this one too http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973085462/in/photostream/ Shallow DOF is superb -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-04 Thread John Sessoms
AKA Lewis Carrol. There really was an Alice, and she was underage when Dodgson photographed her and wrote his masterwork. Over the years, there has been some controversy regarding his behavior and intentions. But, yes I was referring to Polanski, although there was also recent news

PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Jack Davis
...@gmail.com Subject: PESO: Anja To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 7:10 AM Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread ann sanfedele
Luka My choice for your submission to the 2010 PDML book God , you're good! ann http://annsan.smugmug.com Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
thx, ann, it might as well be my submission :) @jack, i do like clutter, might be a fault though in this case. and for the details, it might be a little sharper and more detailed when i get it properly scanned (this is just a snap with a k10d). On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:38 PM, ann sanfedele

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Doug Franklin
Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ Love it. You've got quite a pleasingly distinctive style. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Doug Brewer
Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ yep. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
thank you doug, a very nice thing to read :) On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ Love it.  You've got quite a pleasingly distinctive style. --

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ Oo! Gorgeous (both the photo and the young lady...). cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson --

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread eckinator
sweet. best pic I've seen from you so far! Cheers Ecke 2009/10/3 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 01:14:41PM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ Oo! Gorgeous (both the photo and the young lady...). Gotta

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread eckinator
I had a similar idea but decided to give her and Luca the benefit of the doubt Besides, wasn't that you with the hollowed skull bike helmet alien idea? ]=) Cheers Ecke 2009/10/3 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 01:14:41PM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 07:25:51PM +0200, eckinator scripsit: 2009/10/3 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 01:14:41PM -0400, frank theriault scripsit: On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Luka Knezevic-Strika lukastr...@gmail.com wrote: Loving the 6x7 :)

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread P. J. Alling
I think Graydon can find the creepy in anything. eckinator wrote: I had a similar idea but decided to give her and Luca the benefit of the doubt Besides, wasn't that you with the hollowed skull bike helmet alien idea? ]=) Cheers Ecke 2009/10/3 Graydon o...@uniserve.com: On Sat, Oct 03,

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I think Graydon can find the creepy in anything. I was looking at her face, which is beautiful. Now that I go back and look at the body, yes, it does have a little girl look to it (that is to say, she appears from

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/10/09, Luka Knezevic-Strika, discombobulated, unleashed: Loving the 6x7 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tamoneki/3973086042/ Very striking image, first class Luka. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
thx you all. it's a small village in an undeveloped country in europe. we also had some wars recently. things tend to be less creepy then, perhaps, for people round here, at least. i do not find it creepy at all, she decided to wear her bathing suit and put on the make-up herself, not for the

Re: PESO: Anja

2009-10-03 Thread paul stenquist
It's a beautiful shot, and not creepy in any way. Yes, it's obvious that she's a child, but it's also apparent that it's a make-believe situation. Paul On Oct 3, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: thx you all. it's a small village in an undeveloped country in europe. we also had