Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-07-03 Thread Lon Williamson
One of the most difficult AND one of the most expensive. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Having tried a tiny bit of bird photography, and my awareness and admiration >just goes up for those that actually do it well. I think it's one of the >subgenres of photography that can be ranked as diffi

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-29 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/28/2006 9:04:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, enough of this. Time to do something else. And thanks for the lecture about what good bird photography should be. Shel === Sure. No problem. Always glad when *I* can teach *you* something, Shel.

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-28 Thread frank theriault
On 6/28/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the left handed compliment Actually, I ~am~ a lefty. Howdya know? cheers, frank, who wishes to remind you all that lefties are in their right mind -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pent

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks for the left handed compliment Shel > [Original Message] > From: frank theriault > > http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/Birds/missed.html > That's a hell of a lot better than I could do, > but as you know, that's not saying much. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.ne

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I don't recall seeing you mention that. Thanks. I'll cruise on over this evening. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Kenneth Waller > FWIW you might want to check out Arthur Morris http://www.birdsasart.com/. > He's taken bird photography to the next level as I mentioned in a previous -

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-28 Thread frank theriault
On 6/24/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi gang, > > This morning I decided to try my unsteady hand at bird photography. One of > the big objections I have with bird pics is that so many of them, > regardless of how well executed they are, are rehashes of the same photo - > a bird

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
Shel, FWIW you might want to check out Arthur Morris http://www.birdsasart.com/. He's taken bird photography to the next level as I mentioned in a previous post. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - MI

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-28 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I wasn't going to comment on your comment, but after thinking about it a bit, I decided to go ahead and do so. Very simply, I find a lot of "traditional" bird photography trite and boring, no matter how well executed the photographs are technically. I'm not making photographs here for bird watche

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 6/24/2006 3:24:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/Birds/missed.html istDS, 1/250 sec, f/4.0, K135/2.5 hand held Comments, crits welcome ... Shel Interesting to see you branch out, and as some have said interesti

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Cotty wrote: > > On 25/6/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >I suspected it was Cotty who made some childish remark ... I'm sure he > >meant the photograph. He's so predictable > > So much for the kill-file. > > > > -- > > Cheers, > Cotty > > ___/\__ > I knew that, hehe

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/6/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: >I suspected it was Cotty who made some childish remark ... I'm sure he >meant the photograph. He's so predictable So much for the kill-file. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://ww

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-25 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I suspected it was Cotty who made some childish remark ... I'm sure he meant the photograph. He's so predictable Shel > [Original Message] > From: Ann Sanfedele > Cotty made one comment - > "crap" > > he didn't mean your photography - then someone else went LOL > > then - well - ever notice

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/6/06, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: >Cotty made one comment - >"crap" > >he didn't mean your photography Yes I did! (Actually I rather liked the bird pic, but Shel won't see this, nyuk nyuk) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-25 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > Never saw such a message ... the archives aren't coming up for me so I > can't search to find the comment to which you refer ;-(( > > Shel > > > [Original Message] Cotty made one comment - "crap" he didn't mean your photography - then someone else went LOL then - wel

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-25 Thread Igor Roshchin
William Robb wrote: > I disagree in principal with your comment about not being able to do > "serious" bird photography in an urban environment. > Birds are a part of city life, I see no reason not to photograph them in > their day to day street life, and in their occassional interactions with

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-25 Thread gibikote
though most bird pics are rehashes, the basic birdshot remains quite difficult. correct pose and lighting are oh-so difficult and require a lot of patience... I would rate it much more difficult than photographing children. Sridhar -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread John Francis
It looks like a very awkward position for the bird - it's hard to be sure what it's doing. I find the sharp head, but narrow depth of field, makes it look almost as if the bird has stuck it's head through a piece of tissue paper, and is struggling to get away. I also think it needs a little more

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks ... you are bucking the tide of PDML opinion - my kinda guy ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: gibikote > for the first one, this is very good! > there is the 'subcategory' of flight > pics as well, and you have got a hybrid > pic :-)) > I have a feeling you will be taking many m

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Never saw such a message ... the archives aren't coming up for me so I can't search to find the comment to which you refer ;-(( Shel > [Original Message] > From: Ann Sanfedele > I love bluejays and like the motion in the bird - but I'd > clone out the nuts as they add too much of a scatalogica

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi John, It's a pleasant surprise to see you commenting. If you care to take the time, please post specifically what you find objectionable, and why. Shel > [Original Message] > From: John Francis > > http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/Birds/missed.html > > Well, the subject fills most of th

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks Bruce - I bow to your applause Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bruce Dayton > Interesting first attempt. Quite a mix of sharpness and motion blur. > Certainly not a cliche shot, but not particularly appealing. Kind of > like, viewing it once is interesting, but not something I wou

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread Kenneth Waller
he won a fairly large local competition with that image. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 6:16 PM Subject: PESO - MIssed Opportunity > Hi gang, > > This morning I decided to

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I didn't say that ... I said "more serious," meaning, as suggested by mentioning the park, looking for less common species, learning more about habitats and habits, and the like. While not completely ignorant about birds - I used to do a little bird watching and still have a nice, but small, colle

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Shel, Interesting first attempt. Quite a mix of sharpness and motion blur. Certainly not a cliche shot, but not particularly appealing. Kind of like, viewing it once is interesting, but not something I would view over and over. I applaud your desire to do something beyond the usual. --

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread gibikote
for the first one, this is very good! there is the 'subcategory' of flight pics as well, and you have got a hybrid pic :-)) I have a feeling you will be taking many more bird pics. regards Sridhar - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So, for better or for w

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: PESO - MIssed Opportunity > Hi gang, > > This morning I decided to try my unsteady hand at bird photography. One > of > the big objections I have with bird pics is that so many of them, > regardless o

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 03:16:57PM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > So, for better or for worse, here's my first bird picture. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/Birds/missed.html Well, the subject fills most of the frame quite well, and the exposure seems reasonable. Other than that, there

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I love bluejays and like the motion in the bird - but I'd clone out the nuts as they add too much of a scatalogical tone to the shot - as , um, some wag pointed out in a more succinct way :) Id like the jay moved left in the frame a bit... but I like very much tne look of him appearing to be danci

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele
David Savage wrote: > > LOL. Exactly - but you don't get it unless you look at the shot :) Cotty is such a wag ann > > On 6/25/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 24/6/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > > >http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/Birds/missed.html > > > >

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi, David, neither am I, but I'm in an urban environment, and didn't have the time or the gear to head out into the park* and do anything more serious. Anyway, y'gotta start somewhere, and these birds can still have interesting antics and poses, and are fun to watch. It's a good place to practi

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread David Savage
LOL. On 6/25/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 24/6/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/Birds/missed.html > > > >istDS, 1/250 sec, f/4.0, K135/2.5 hand held > > > >Comments, crits welcome ... > > Crap. > > Regards, > > -- > > > Cheers, >

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread David Savage
It's an alright picture. The mix of blur & sharpness is interesting. But I'm not a big fan of bird pictures taken at feeders, and IMHO this is just one step up from that. Cheers, Dave On 6/25/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi gang, > > This morning I decided to try my unsteady

RE: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'm not a wildlife photographer, didn't enter any competition, but the year's not over Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob W > > So, for better or for worse, here's my first bird picture. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/Birds/missed.html > Quite an interesting mixture of sharp and

Re: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/6/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: >http://home.earthlink.net/~morepix/Birds/missed.html > >istDS, 1/250 sec, f/4.0, K135/2.5 hand held > >Comments, crits welcome ... Crap. Regards, -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http:/

RE: PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread Bob W
> One of > the big objections I have with bird pics is that so many of them, > regardless of how well executed they are, are rehashes of the > same photo - > a bird sitting on a branch with a blurred background. "Bird on twig with catchlight" is the withering expression that was used about such

PESO - MIssed Opportunity

2006-06-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi gang, This morning I decided to try my unsteady hand at bird photography. One of the big objections I have with bird pics is that so many of them, regardless of how well executed they are, are rehashes of the same photo - a bird sitting on a branch with a blurred background. They can be great