Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-19 Thread P. J. Alling
John Francis wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 07:03:29PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> John Francis wrote: >> >>> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 08:23:22PM -0700, Bob Blakely wrote: >>> To do perspective correction in photoshop or any other imaging software, you must loos

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Francis" Subject: Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift >> >> With a perspective shift lens you're using a larger-image-circle lens >> and those generally (though not always) have lower resolution than >> standard 35mm le

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-18 Thread John Francis
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 07:03:29PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: > John Francis wrote: > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 08:23:22PM -0700, Bob Blakely wrote: > >> To do perspective correction in photoshop or any other imaging software, > >> you > >> must loose pixels, synthisize pixels or both. Shift is s

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-18 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 08:23:22PM -0700, Bob Blakely wrote: >> To do perspective correction in photoshop or any other imaging software, you >> must loose pixels, synthisize pixels or both. Shift is still the way for >> digital purists. > > That's possibly true (but watch o

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On May 18, 2008, at 7:47 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >>> digital purists. >> Surely an oxymoron? > It's a bit off. Just words. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and foll

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-18 Thread Bruce Walker
Cotty wrote: > On 17/5/08, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >> digital purists. >> > > Surely an oxymoron? > It's a bit off. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the l

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-18 Thread David Savage
2008/5/18 Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 17/5/08, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>digital purists. > > Surely an oxymoron? No chemical contaminants Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from t

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/5/08, Bob Blakely, discombobulated, unleashed: >digital purists. Surely an oxymoron? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.n

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-17 Thread John Francis
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 08:23:22PM -0700, Bob Blakely wrote: > To do perspective correction in photoshop or any other imaging software, you > must loose pixels, synthisize pixels or both. Shift is still the way for > digital purists. That's possibly true (but watch out for those loose pixels :-)

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
of this message, > but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. > > - Original Message - > From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:28 PM > Subject: Re: Pentax K2

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-17 Thread Bob Blakely
this message, but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:28 PM Subject: Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift >I know that

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Then I'd have to buy Pentacon lenses. Hell, when I was looking at the Pentax 28mm shift it was selling for around $1000 used if the dealer knew what they had, and I didn't run into any who didn't. The real utility comes into play on shorter FL lenses, (most manufactures of these types of lens

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-15 Thread lists
>DagT wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 14:25:50 -0700 > >> I suddenly bought one for about $200. (it sounds fun and I had a weak >> moment) >> >> Does anybody know anything about it? > >I bought a used copy a couple years ago on EvilBay for about $450 and >thought I got a decent deal, but yours certain

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-15 Thread Sandy Harris
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:38 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First off you got the bargain of the century, I was looking into a shift > lens some time ago and decided I couldn't afford the Pentax it was just > too expensive. I hate you. If you want a cheap shift lens, does this do y

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-14 Thread Ken Waller
> Does anybody know anything about it? Yeah - its doesn't have a tilt mechanism. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "DagT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift >I suddenly bought one for about $200. (it

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift- correction

2008-05-14 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Jim King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adam Maas wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 17:01:32 -0700 > > > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Jim King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Jim King wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 16:39:12 -0700 > > > > > > > (snip) > > > > I've enjoy

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift- correction

2008-05-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Jim King" Subject: Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift- correction > Yes - I was using the Green Button for manual exposure metering after > I adjusted the amount of shift. The resulting images were underexposed > Ok, post this on pentax

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift- correction

2008-05-14 Thread Jim King
Adam Maas wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 17:01:32 -0700 > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Jim King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim King wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 16:39:12 -0700 > > > > > (snip) > > > I've enjoyed using it on my Pentax DSLRs but found that it > tends to > > > progressively unde

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift- correction

2008-05-14 Thread Jim King
Adam Maas wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 17:01:32 -0700 > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Jim King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim King wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 16:39:12 -0700 > > > > > (snip) > > > I've enjoyed using it on my Pentax DSLRs but found that it > tends to > > > progressively unde

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift- correction

2008-05-14 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Jim King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jim King wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 16:39:12 -0700 > > > (snip) > > I've enjoyed using it on my Pentax DSLRs but found that it tends to > > progressively underexpose when using TTL metering as I move to smaller > > apertures

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift- correction

2008-05-14 Thread Jim King
Jim King wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 16:39:12 -0700 > (snip) > I've enjoyed using it on my Pentax DSLRs but found that it tends to > progressively underexpose when using TTL metering as I move to smaller > apertures. That's not usually a problem because this lens requires a > deliberative style of

Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-14 Thread Jim King
DagT wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 14:25:50 -0700 > I suddenly bought one for about $200. (it sounds fun and I had a weak > moment) > > Does anybody know anything about it? I bought a used copy a couple years ago on EvilBay for about $450 and thought I got a decent deal, but yours certainly beats t

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I know that in the days before digital it sold for three times that or more. But now with PhotoShop perspective controls, it's somewhat redundant. But it should be fun. Good buy:-). Paul On May 14, 2008, at 5:24 PM, DagT wrote: > I suddenly bought one for about $200. (it sounds fun and I had a

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-14 Thread Derby Chang
Its also really handy for doing panoramas. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/07_09/07_09_blackwattle/01.htm You certainly got a bargain. D Bob Sullivan wrote: > You got a good deal. $450-$500 would be a fair price. > It's been one of the few perspective correction lenses out there. > Bef

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
You got a good deal. $450-$500 would be a fair price. It's been one of the few perspective correction lenses out there. Before photoshop, it was THE LENS for architectural exteriors. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 4:24 PM, DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suddenly bought one for about

Re: Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-14 Thread P. J. Alling
First off you got the bargain of the century, I was looking into a shift lens some time ago and decided I couldn't afford the Pentax it was just too expensive. I hate you. DagT wrote: > I suddenly bought one for about $200. (it sounds fun and I had a weak > moment) > > Does anybody know anyth

Pentax K28mm 3.5 shift

2008-05-14 Thread DagT
I suddenly bought one for about $200. (it sounds fun and I had a weak moment) Does anybody know anything about it? DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow