Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-24 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 24/04/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use coated filters, but my cleaning warning, as I'm sure you understood, was for those who would do harm to the lens element coatings. I suspect that you severely underestimate the robustness of modern lens coatings. -- Rob Studdert

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-24 Thread eric
Doug Franklin wrote: Digital Image Studio wrote: I suspect that you severely underestimate the robustness of modern lens coatings. I quit worrying so much about the robustness of the front element coatings when I saw the Pentax demonstration of crushing out a cigarette on the

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-24 Thread Doug Franklin
Digital Image Studio wrote: I suspect that you severely underestimate the robustness of modern lens coatings. I quit worrying so much about the robustness of the front element coatings when I saw the Pentax demonstration of crushing out a cigarette on the front element like it was an ashtray.

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-24 Thread Jack Davis
I can only hope. ;) Jack --- Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/04/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use coated filters, but my cleaning warning, as I'm sure you understood, was for those who would do harm to the lens element coatings. I suspect that you

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-24 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 24/04/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can only hope. ;) Lifted directly from a post I made re lens cleaning Nov 2000: In an except from the Leica Fotographie International magazine 6/99 page 37 the following can be found: The resistance and adhesive power of the outer layer is so

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-24 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Rob, A few years ago I did something like that using a damaged SMC filter. I couldn't see any scratches or abrasions, even when using a magnifier. However, I did ruin a 20mm Super Tak by cleaning it with Kodak lens tissue. although I couldn't see the scratches. When I brought the lens in for a

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-24 Thread Jack Davis
No, I don't care to run the test. (LoL) Well, this gives me even more hope. Jack --- Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/04/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can only hope. ;) Lifted directly from a post I made re lens cleaning Nov 2000: In an except from the

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-24 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 24/04/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, A few years ago I did something like that using a damaged SMC filter. I couldn't see any scratches or abrasions, even when using a magnifier. However, I did ruin a 20mm Super Tak by cleaning it with Kodak lens tissue. although I

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-24 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 24/04/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I don't care to run the test. (LoL) Well, this gives me even more hope. Nearly 20 years of regular cleaning the front element of my A16/2.8 fisheye and later my A15/3.5 (both of which can't be protected using a screw on filter) with all and

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-24 Thread Jack Davis
So far as you can tell.(?) Jack --- Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/04/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I don't care to run the test. (LoL) Well, this gives me even more hope. Nearly 20 years of regular cleaning the front element of my A16/2.8 fisheye and

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-24 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm sorry, I don't hate any of my lenses that much... Digital Image Studio wrote: On 24/04/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can only hope. ;) Lifted directly from a post I made re lens cleaning Nov 2000: In an except from the Leica Fotographie International magazine 6/99

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-24 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 25/04/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far as you can tell.(?) You can either see the damage on a lens or you can't, that's the nice thing about optics ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread wendy beard
On 4/21/07, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People tend to get into religious wars about this sort of thing. I'm a firm believer in filtering my lenses, but I think I'm the only person on the list who's ever dropped a camera on its front and had the UV filter shatter and the lens remain

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread David J Brooks
When the FA70-200 fell , with camera still in hand, filter or not, it would not have helped in this case, as the focus barrell bent. I generally do not use filters, but have on on my Nikon 70-200VR Dave On 4/23/07, wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/21/07, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread David J Brooks
I find that to. Dave On 4/22/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The curious thing I discovered was that, with a filter in place, I needed to remove it frequently to clean the lens and the backside of the filter. Without a filter in place, cleaning my lenses is required far less

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread Jack Davis
That certainly is a curious thing. I'm overly speck vigilant and rarely need to remove a filter to puff one away. If I do see a speck on the lens, I assume it drifted in while I was changing filters. I try to be quick about changing filters and now, in changing lenses on the K10D. Jack --- David

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The thing is, Jack, that a couple of bits of dust on the front element of a lens does *nothing* to affect image quality in any significant way. (Those same specs on the *rear* element can have an impact, depending upon the lens.) A fine layer of dust between the front element and the back

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread Jack Davis
To eliminate that possibility, I ALWAYS thoroughly clean both the front and back of each filter before placing or replacing it on the lens. Thus virtually eliminating the problem. Additionally, because I used the word speck, don't assume I'm not including any offending debris such as dust...etc,

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Dust is speck for me too. Sounds to me like you're posing a greater risk to the glass surfaces with all that cleaning, Jack. I haven't needed to clean a lens more than a couple of times in the past year at most. I give them a puff with a hand blower to get the dust off if I see any, and I

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread Jack Davis
You're making some erroneous assumptions, Godders. All that cleaning, for example. Lightly flicking or puffing on either side of a filter (unless an oily smear is seen) may be described as a thorough cleaning. My filter changing is very infrequent at that. In any case, if one is aggressive enough

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 23, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Jack Davis wrote: BTW, in my world dust cannot migrate to the area between the filter and the lens unless the filter is removed. :) lol ... Do you have them sealed somehow? ;-) I always thought that too, which is why I found the consistent build up of

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah, me too. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 23, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Jack Davis wrote: BTW, in my world dust cannot migrate to the area between the filter and the lens unless the filter is removed. :) lol ... Do you have them sealed somehow? ;-) I

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass On Apr 23, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Jack Davis wrote: BTW, in my world dust cannot migrate to the area between the filter and the lens unless the filter is removed. :) lol

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass On Apr 23, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Jack Davis wrote: BTW, in my world dust cannot migrate to the area between the filter and the lens unless the filter is removed. :) lol ... Do you have them sealed somehow

RE: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread Bob W
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass On Apr 23, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Jack Davis wrote: BTW, in my world dust cannot migrate to the area between the filter and the lens unless the filter

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread Jack Davis
Must have leaky filter/lens threads. ;) Jack --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass On Apr 23, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Jack Davis wrote: BTW, in my world dust

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread John Francis
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 23 April 2007 21:00 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass In my case it was more than dust, but something more akin to a haze or a film. Yeah, there was a little dust

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 23, 2007, at 3:05 PM, John Francis wrote: That looks like the sort of explanation Calvin's dad would provide :-) I always liked Calvin's dad. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass Must have leaky filter/lens threads. ;) It was a Nikkor lens, after all. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread Jack Davis
Belinkoff Sent: 23 April 2007 21:00 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass In my case it was more than dust, but something more akin to a haze or a film. Yeah, there was a little dust in there as well. Apart from

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread Tom C
@pdml.net Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:24:24 -0700 (PDT) All right!! That's got to be the answer and explains why some images are more prone to this phenomenon than others. I think maybe cat fur may be the worst offender. Photo fur balls

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-23 Thread Jack Davis
the photonic residue, you'll be offsetting that reduced mass by some amount. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass Date: Mon, 23 Apr

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-22 Thread Jack Davis
If no filter in place, use restraint in aggressive lens cleaning. I tend to do more frequent, if casual, cleaning when I have a filter on. Proper methods and cleaners should only be used. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I stopped using protection filters 25 years ago when I

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-22 Thread Thibouille
Godfrey, do you still have one of those shots? It would be interesting to see the effect of a filter on a real shot. 2007/4/22, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I stopped using protection filters 25 years ago when I saw how much they cut image quality. I've only dropped a lens once, a

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The curious thing I discovered was that, with a filter in place, I needed to remove it frequently to clean the lens and the backside of the filter. Without a filter in place, cleaning my lenses is required far less frequently and most of the time all that's required is a quick puff with a

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I'll see if I can find the particular two rolls of film that convinced me once and for all. Don't hold your breath waiting ... it was 25 years ago and I'll have to search and see if I didn't just shred the nasty one in disgust. ;-) G On Apr 22, 2007, at 7:16 AM, Thibouille wrote:

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-21 Thread eric
I learn something new every day on this list, it seems. I'm probably still a youngin' compared to most of you (rolling over to 27 in about a month), and just started getting serious about photography late last year when I picked up a *ist-DL. Wonderful camera, only complaint of sorts is the

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-21 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
I generally leave my UV filter on my lens. My (aging) eyes don't see any difference in image quality with or without the filter, but there are those who disagree. Maris eric wrote: I learn something new every day on this list, it seems. I'm probably still a youngin' compared to most of you

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-21 Thread Amita Guha
People tend to get into religious wars about this sort of thing. I'm a firm believer in filtering my lenses, but I think I'm the only person on the list who's ever dropped a camera on its front and had the UV filter shatter and the lens remain ok. :) I've never noticed a difference in quality, but

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-21 Thread Mark Cassino
Amita Guha wrote: People tend to get into religious wars about this sort of thing. I'm a firm believer in filtering my lenses, but I think I'm the only person on the list who's ever dropped a camera on its front and had the UV filter shatter and the lens remain ok. :) I've never noticed a

Re: Protection glass / filters, especially consumer glass

2007-04-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I stopped using protection filters 25 years ago when I saw how much they cut image quality. I've only dropped a lens once, a Nikkor 20mm f/3.5 AI-S that was two weeks old, and no filter or hood would have prevented the damage to the lens' optical alignment that was caused (both filter

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-11 Thread mike wilson
From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/04/10 Tue PM 11:24:38 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters Cotty wrote: Well, here's a combo that works for me: a 6X7 hood on a 35mm lens. PH-SB on the A*85mm 1.4. Looks like

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-11 Thread Cotty
On 11/4/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: OK, added. Here's the beginnings of the page http://NutDriver.org/hoodxref.html Might be worth adding this link to your page. http://www.lenshoods.co.uk/pentax.php Doug, also - this page is a superb reference:

RE: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-11 Thread Markus Maurer
at 24mm it did not. Greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:25 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters Cotty wrote: Well, here's a combo

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
For the FA 43, I use a Takumar 1:2.8/105 -- 1:4/100 hood. Just happen to have that hood have no further need for it. Anyone interested? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters On 4/10/07, Doug Franklin

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-11 Thread Doug Franklin
mike wilson wrote: Might be worth adding this link to your page. http://www.lenshoods.co.uk/pentax.php Cotty wrote: Doug, also - this page is a superb reference: http://www.vanwalree.com/optics/lenshood.html Thanks guys, added both of them. I'll be uploading an updated copy of the cross ref

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-11 Thread Doug Franklin
Markus Maurer wrote: Are you interested in all Pentax lenses/hood combinations or only for the newest DA lenses? I'll put information in there for any Pentax K mount lens, regardless of manufacturer. I may need to adjust the table a little to accommodate non-Pentax brand lenses, though.

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread David Mann
On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:58 AM, Bob W wrote: you can also move up to better filters you know. What a waste of good lens money :) - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Try a hood (was: Protection glass / filters)

2007-04-10 Thread David Mann
On Apr 10, 2007, at 3:49 AM, Mark Erickson wrote: I think it's been said before, but you might try using lens hoods for protection. They create no optical degradation and sometimes even reduce lens flare! Yes that's true, but metal, plastic or rubber? - Someone who should know better

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread Doug Franklin
Hey, folks, While reading this thread, it occurred to me that there have been some messages over the years about which hoods fit which lenses, even using the wrong hood on the wrong lens or using some other manufacturer's hood on a lens. If the group thinks there is utility in doing so, I could

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Cool idea - although you may get some strange-sounding responses from me LOL Shel [Original Message] From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 4/10/2007 5:36:40 AM Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters Hey, folks, While reading

Re: Try a hood (was: Protection glass / filters)

2007-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 10, 2007, at 1:14 AM, David Mann wrote: I think it's been said before, but you might try using lens hoods for protection. They create no optical degradation and sometimes even reduce lens flare! Yes that's true, but metal, plastic or rubber? I prefer a rigid lens hood ... metal,

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 10/04/07, Nick Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I rely on filters for protection. Because I feel much better cleaning a $40 filter than the front element of a $300+ lens. It's just like insurance, you really have to assess if it's warranted. Looking at it another way I could say

RE: Try a hood (was: Protection glass / filters)

2007-04-10 Thread Bob W
I think it's been said before, but you might try using lens hoods for protection. They create no optical degradation and sometimes even reduce lens flare! Yes that's true, but metal, plastic or rubber? - Someone who should know better than to make such inflammatory posts I

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/4/07, Doug Franklin, discombobulated, unleashed: While reading this thread, it occurred to me that there have been some messages over the years about which hoods fit which lenses, even using the wrong hood on the wrong lens or using some other manufacturer's hood on a lens. If the group

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread Doug Franklin
Cotty wrote: Well, here's a combo that works for me: a 6X7 hood on a 35mm lens. PH-SB on the A*85mm 1.4. Looks like this: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/mods/a85ineos.html OK, added. Here's the beginnings of the page http://NutDriver.org/hoodxref.html -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) --

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: Well, here's a combo that works for me: a 6X7 hood on a 35mm lens. PH-SB on the A*85mm 1.4. Looks like this: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/mods/a85ineos.html That's good lookin', Cotty! OK, added. Here's the beginnings of the page

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 4/10/07, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cotty wrote: Well, here's a combo that works for me: a 6X7 hood on a 35mm lens. PH-SB on the A*85mm 1.4. Looks like this: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/mods/a85ineos.html OK, added. Here's the beginnings of the page

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread Doug Franklin
Mike Hamilton wrote: For the DA 70, I use a Takumar 1:3.5/135 -- 1:5.6/200 hood. For the FA 43, I use a Takumar 1:2.8/105 -- 1:4/100 hood. Any part numberish things stamped/printed on them? -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 4/10/07, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Hamilton wrote: For the DA 70, I use a Takumar 1:3.5/135 -- 1:5.6/200 hood. For the FA 43, I use a Takumar 1:2.8/105 -- 1:4/100 hood. Any part numberish things stamped/printed on them? The data that's listed above is stamped in the

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist
My favorite hood swap is the Pentax Super Tak 135/3.5 metal hood on the FA 50/1.4. No vignetting on APS-C digital and superb protection. Paul On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: Well, here's a combo that works for me: a 6X7

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-10 Thread Doug Franklin
Paul Stenquist wrote: Updated http://NutDriver.org/hoodxref.html -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Roman
What protecting glass / UV filter brands do you use on DSLR. I've good experience with Sigma UV EX DG (for digital). Hoya UV Pro1 Digital I recently purchased had hard dirt stuck to the glass from the inner side that has been contacting with porolone in the filter case, so cleaned it with

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 09/04/07, Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What protecting glass / UV filter brands do you use on DSLR. I've good experience with Sigma UV EX DG (for digital). Hoya UV Pro1 Digital I recently purchased had hard dirt stuck to the glass from the inner side that has been contacting with porolone

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Dario Bonazza
On film, I mostly used Hoya 1B filters. On digital I've become most demanding on image quality, hence no more filters on my lenses. Dario - Original Message - From: Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Protection glass / filters

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread David Savage
I don't use protective filters. Cheers, Dave On 4/9/07, Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What protecting glass / UV filter brands do you use on DSLR. I've good experience with Sigma UV EX DG (for digital). Hoya UV Pro1 Digital I recently purchased had hard dirt stuck to the glass from the

RE: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I have never used filters for protection in over 30 years and have never had an incident where a filter would have made a protective difference..Just lucky I guess, I do use caps cases at all times except shooting though... jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Bob W
I have a Hoya plain glass thing on one lens, and a Contax skylight filter on the other. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roman Sent: 09 April 2007 09:11 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Protection glass / filters What

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Boris Liberman
Roman, my limited lenses have Pentax SMC UV protective filters on them at all times. I notice no deterioration of image quality but I feel slightly better having invested *a lot* of money into these three lenses. My other lenses are protected by Pentax UV protective filters (probably not SMC

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Bong Manayon
Thanks for posting your question, Roman. It is helping me a lot too...am in this debate with myself to filter or not to filter...? My hunch is to take off all the filters in shooting digital, but have not gotten over the protection issue. Somehow wanting to be ready in case Murphy strikes. My

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
I use filters only for image modification. And with digital that is only rarely necessary. I don't use them for lens protection. They just add another opportunity for flare. On Apr 9, 2007, at 4:10 AM, Roman wrote: What protecting glass / UV filter brands do you use on DSLR. I've good

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Roman Subject: Protection glass / filters What protecting glass / UV filter brands do you use on DSLR. None of my lenses have protective filters on them. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Mark Roberts
None of my lenses has a protective filter on it except the FA*80-200/2.8, and that's mainly because the lens's own filter threads are damaged to the extent that it's really difficult to put a filter on it (and particularly so with a polarizer, which is my most-used filter). So the SMC Pentax

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Why would a DSLR require different filters than used on a film camera? Personally, I think the use of DSLR filters is hype and just a marketing ploy. I stopped using protective filters a long time ago, and have stuck with using good, deep lens hoods. In fact, I've sold most of my protective

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Same here. If you must use a lens condom, B+W multicoated clear optical glass filters are what I'd recommend. G On Apr 9, 2007, at 5:25 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I use filters only for image modification. And with digital that is only rarely necessary. I don't use them for lens

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters None of my lenses has a protective filter on it except the FA*80-200/2.8, and that's mainly because the lens's own filter threads are damaged to the extent that it's really difficult to put a filter on it (and particularly so with a polarizer, which is my

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Jack Davis
I agree! Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here. If you must use a lens condom, B+W multicoated clear optical glass filters are what I'd recommend. G On Apr 9, 2007, at 5:25 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I use filters only for image modification. And with

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters Why would a DSLR require different filters than used on a film camera? Personally, I think the use of DSLR filters is hype and just a marketing ploy. DSLRs seem less forgiving of optical defects than

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Eactivist
I have one BW filter that I might use if needed. But nowadays, with digital, I no longer use filters on my lenses. I stopped using them when I realized the quality of the glass in a filter was less than the quality of glass in my lenses (after I moved up to better lenses). It is also why

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Christian
Digital Image Studio wrote: On 09/04/07, Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What protecting glass / UV filter brands do you use on DSLR. I've good experience with Sigma UV EX DG (for digital). Hoya UV Pro1 Digital I recently purchased had hard dirt stuck to the glass from the inner side that has

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Mark Roberts
BTW: http://www.robertstech.com/filters.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread mike wilson
Roman wrote: What protecting glass / UV filter brands do you use on DSLR. I've good experience with Sigma UV EX DG (for digital). Hoya UV Pro1 Digital I recently purchased had hard dirt stuck to the glass from the inner side that has been contacting with porolone in the filter case, so

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Cotty
No filters except polariser. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Jack Davis
Mark, I took a quick scan of the filter size listing. If I may, a couple of what may be exceptions. My A*300 f2.8 ED(IF) takes a 49mm drop-in filter. My recently sold 28~80 f/3.5-4.5, a 58mm. I realize that you may be only the publisher of this listing and take no responsibility for its accuracy.

RE: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Markus Maurer
, 2007 11:33 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters Thanks for posting your question, Roman. It is helping me a lot too...am in this debate with myself to filter or not to filter...? My hunch is to take off all the filters in shooting digital, but have not gotten

Try a hood (was: Protection glass / filters)

2007-04-09 Thread Mark Erickson
I think it's been said before, but you might try using lens hoods for protection. They create no optical degradation and sometimes even reduce lens flare! --Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Try a hood (was: Protection glass / filters)

2007-04-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Bingo! But not just any hood. It really helps to get one that's truly appropriate for the lens/camera combination, and don't be afraid to experiment with lenses from different brand cameras or sources other than Pentax. Shel [Original Message] From: Mark Erickson I think it's been said

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread ann sanfedele
Cotty wrote: No filters except polariser. me too ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Markus Maurer
glass / filters BTW: http://www.robertstech.com/filters.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: Try a hood (was: Protection glass / filters)

2007-04-09 Thread Bob W
I use both! I never put lens caps on though, except when the lens is stored in my safe. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Erickson Sent: 09 April 2007 16:49 To: pdml Subject: Try a hood (was: Protection glass / filters

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Jack Davis wrote: I took a quick scan of the filter size listing. If I may, a couple of what may be exceptions. My A*300 f2.8 ED(IF) takes a 49mm drop-in filter. Thanks, I just posted an updated list that shows the drop-in filters for the extreme telephotos. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Bob W
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 April 2007 15:40 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Protection glass / filters I have one BW filter that I might use if needed. But nowadays, with digital, I no longer use filters on my lenses. I stopped using them when I realized

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Nick Wright
Digital sensors are much more prone to recording reflections bouncing off a cheap filter than film. I learned this first hand a couple years back when I purchased the cheapest filters I could for protection and found an ugly ghosting effect on any white highlights taken in bright sun. I switched

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread mike wilson
Mark Roberts wrote: BTW: http://www.robertstech.com/filters.htm There seems to be a hiccup threequarters of the way down the A lenses (35-80) and, following that, some of the numbers seem wrong. Assuming the numbers should move up one, does the 50/2.8 macro really have a 145mm thread?

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread mike wilson
mike wilson wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: BTW: http://www.robertstech.com/filters.htm There seems to be a hiccup threequarters of the way down the A lenses (35-80) and, following that, some of the numbers seem wrong. Assuming the numbers should move up one, does the 50/2.8 macro

Re: Protection glass / filters

2007-04-09 Thread Mark Cassino
I use a protective filter when the lens needs protection - particularly with macro shooting. It's just too physical - crawling on the ground, laying prone, twisting into odd positions - to not expect that sooner or later the camera will take a hit in the front element. More than one time I've