On May 4, 2006, at 2:51 AM, John Francis wrote:
These guys have an interesting product:
http://www.GlobalImagination.com/
They look really cool... I'd certainly like one. Can they be hooked
into Google Earth?
When I was at university (mid 90's) there was a guy working with a
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 12:14:23PM -0700, Powell Hargrave wrote:
On 2006-04-29 20:21, Bob W wrote:
Sure. In that case, North America is tiny compared with Europe. As long as
you forget everything except Maryland.
Check the globe or an area-true map to compare north america vs. africa...
-
On 2006-04-30 12:13, graywolf wrote:
Those numbers are pretty close to what I came up with for Canada, but
not for the US.
Maybe your numbers include all military bases, embassies, ships or ruled
countries ;-)
- Martin
On 2006-04-29 20:21, Bob W wrote:
Sure. In that case, North America is tiny compared with Europe. As long as
you forget everything except Maryland.
Check the globe or an area-true map to compare north america vs. africa...
Or check China or India vs. US
Or check the density of inhabitants of
On 2006-04-29 20:21, Bob W wrote:
Sure. In that case, North America is tiny compared with Europe. As long as
you forget everything except Maryland.
Check the globe or an area-true map to compare north america vs. africa...
- Martin
I find a globe works well. Mine is stuck on cold war
Powell Hargrave wrote:
On 2006-04-29 20:21, Bob W wrote:
Sure. In that case, North America is tiny compared with Europe. As long as
you forget everything except Maryland.
Check the globe or an area-true map to compare north america vs. africa...
- Martin
I find a globe works
- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
Gallons of gas sold is only a part of such a company's profit picture.
Profits are generated from other areas as well, including investments and
refining. Almost 1/4 of their profits came from refining
On 29/4/06, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:
For
instance Canada is nowhere near as big as it looks on most maps.
I understand they say the same thing about Bill...
Cheers,
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On Apr 30, 2006, at 1:29 AM, Bob W wrote:
Unless somebody thinks of ideas that,
to the majority, sound outrageous and ridiculous, nothing will ever
change.
From the end of one of the very few TV ads that I actually like...
[...] the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:23:23 +0100, Paul Stenquist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Um, the oil companies can easily sell gas for far less than they're
currently getting. Exxon profits are in the billion plus per quarter
range. They will make the sacrifice when called upon.
You omitted the
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:44:08 +0100, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, spend trillions of dollars on infrastructure to save billions on
gasoline. Europeans spent that kind money on mass trans portation
because between 1945 and 1960 most of them were too poor to afford a
private motor
Yep Canada is only about 10 million square kilometers just 10% bigger
than the US. And you are wrong, Cotty. Bill is at least as big as you.
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Cotty wrote:
On Apr 30, 2006, at 7:05 AM, graywolf wrote:
Yep Canada is only about 10 million square kilometers just 10%
bigger than the US. And you are wrong, Cotty. Bill is at least as
big as you.
USA is 9,631,418 square kilometers. Canada is 9, 976,410 square
kilometers. That makes Canada
For instance Canada is nowhere
near as big as it looks on most maps.
must be really tiny then, because on my map it's only about 6 inches
coast-to-coast...
--
Cheers,
Bob
Maybe to the international border, (12 mile limit)?
Bob Shell wrote:
On Apr 30, 2006, at 7:05 AM, graywolf wrote:
Yep Canada is only about 10 million square kilometers just 10%
bigger than the US. And you are wrong, Cotty. Bill is at least as
big as you.
USA is 9,631,418 square
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William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
Gallons of gas sold is only a part of such a company's profit
picture.
Profits are generated from other areas as well, including
investments and
refining. Almost 1/4 of their profits came from
Thesis plus antithesis equals synthesis.
You both have valid points. Having driven transit in the 80's the busses
were full during rush hours and practically empty the rest of the time. You
have to run busses frequently enough to make them practical to use. My
solution to that would be to use
Those numbers are pretty close to what I came up with for Canada, but
not for the US. However I did not do an exhaustive search but just took
the numbers from the first sight google came up with. Yes by the numbers
I came up with it was actually only 7-8% bigger but I figured I would
round it
Thesis plus antithesis equals synthesis.
You both have valid points. Having driven transit in the 80's the busses
were full during rush hours and practically empty the rest of the time. You
have to run busses frequently enough to make them practical to use. My
solution to that would be to use
must be really tiny then, because on my map it's only about 6 inches
coast-to-coast...
To quote Coty -
I understand they say the same thing about Bill...
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices
For instance Canada is nowhere
On 30/4/06, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:
must be really tiny then, because on my map it's only about 6 inches
coast-to-coast...
To quote Coty -
I understand they say the same thing about Bill...
I've got 12 inches but I never use it, as a rule.
Cheers,
Cotty
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Reminds me of the guy with an 11 inch head..
one more inch and it would be a foot.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
On 30/4/06, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:
must be really tiny then, because on my
]
Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices
For instance Canada is nowhere near as big as it looks on most maps.
must be really tiny then, because on my map it's only about 6 inches
coast-to-coast...
--
Cheers,
Bob
Cotty wrote:
I've got 12 inches but I never use it, as a rule.
I knew a woman who had a foot fetish, but she'd settle for seven or
eight inches. :-)
--
Thanks,
DougF (KG4LMZ)
On 28/4/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
And
put more effort and money into finding exploiting alternatives to petrol.
Side note: filmed at Oxford University last week, watched as methane I
think it was methane) was mixed with a catalyst to produce heat and
clean steam - at room
And
put more effort and money into finding exploiting
alternatives to petrol.
Side note: filmed at Oxford University last week, watched as
methane I think it was methane) was mixed with a catalyst to
produce heat and clean steam - at room temperature! Watch as
steam makes a
I do understand the wider consequences of rising fuel prices; I just
wish that our society hadn't become so dependent on the stuff.
To be honest I'm far more concerned about the effects of rising
property prices, but this thread is OT enough already.
- Dave
On Apr 29, 2006, at 1:56 AM,
You me both.
Dave S.
On 4/29/06, David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To be honest I'm far more concerned about the effects of rising
property prices, but this thread is OT enough already.
- Dave
On Apr 28, 2006, at 12:23 AM, John Mullan wrote:
take a gander at this page.
http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx
Looks like Wyoming is the place to live. You'd think gas prices
would be somehow related to proximity to refineries, but I don't
recall any oil refineries in
On Apr 28, 2006, at 6:59 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
The best price in the Detroit area is now around $2.89/ gallon.
When I started driving in 1964, gas was less than 0.30 per gallon
in most places.
I can well remember storming away from a gas station in outrage back
in the 70s, saying,
On Apr 28, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Martin Trautmann wrote:
Apart from ships dedicated e.g. to
south american orange juice (I don't know what they transport
backwards),
Probably insecticide to spray on the orange trees.
Bob
On Apr 28, 2006, at 11:16 AM, graywolf wrote:
Unfortunately in 99% of the US today an automobile is a necessity
not a luxury. That said, do not believe that price does not affect
gas usage.
I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not been here
generally just don't
Unfortunately in 99% of the US today an automobile is a
necessity not
a luxury. That said, do not believe that price does not affect gas
usage.
I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not
been here generally just don't understand this about the USA.
Things are
I find that Europeans and people from the UK
we're Europeans too!
Bob
On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:20 AM, Bob W wrote:
but that's because you guys have arranged it that way. You can
unarrange it
by building better railroads and improved buses.
And move your cities a bit closer together... That reminds me of an
American
gentleman I met in Munich many, many years
Bob Shell wrote:
I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not
been here generally just don't understand this about the USA.
Things are far apart here, and for the most part we don't
have transportation alternatives.
You're right on the whole. I've had maps out in the past to
On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:20 AM, Bob W wrote:
And move your cities a bit closer together...
Lets attempt to come up with realistic ideas.
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: Malcolm Smith
Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices
I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not
been here generally just don't understand this about the USA.
Things are far apart here, and for the most part we don't
have transportation alternatives
William Robb wrote:
And move your cities a bit closer together...
Lets attempt to come up with realistic ideas.
Over here the expansion of cities is making that a reality.
Malcolm
William Robb wrote:
A friend of ours had a fellow from England over for a visit.
He decided he
wanted to see a bit of the countryside, so we took a short
drive in the
country, perhaps 4 hours at highway speeds (100kph). When we
got home, he
wanted to see how much of Canada we had
But then those cities would be in danger of being hit by hurricanes. BTW
I had this friend who had the solution. He figured that you could move
all the people in North America into high rise apartments on Long
Island. Then the deer and the bear would have the rest of the continent
to
Smith
Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices
I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not
been here generally just don't understand this about the USA.
Things are far apart here, and for the most part we don't
have transportation alternatives.
You're right on the whole. I've had maps out
A hardy laugh is a good way to start the day. Thanks, Bob.
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Bob W wrote:
[...]
Expect fuel cell technology to take off in a very large way
over the
On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Bob W wrote:
I find that Europeans and people from the UK
we're Europeans too!
Some of my UK friends bristle if called European, so I always try to
make the distinction.
Bob
And they will get the methane by cracking petroleum.
I get a rather grand sense of deja vu from this report, Cotty. How many
times over the years have I heard that same story? There is a miracle
break through every few years and that is the last you hear of that. As
long as you can just pump
-Magnons pointing and laughing at him for such a stupid idea.
--
Cheers,
Bob
-Original Message-
From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 April 2006 13:43
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
But then those cities would be in danger of being hit
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Sent: 29 April 2006 14:00
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
What really is shocking is when you look on a globe and see
what a tiny place Europe is.
graywolf
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http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
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Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices
don't go confusing Europe and the European Union. Europe
stretches from the Urals to the Atlantic, and is much larger
than North America. The European Union occupies a remote
peninsula on the westernmost tip of Europe.
--
Cheers,
Bob
-Original
Den 29. apr. 2006 kl. 14.20 skrev Bob W:
Unfortunately in 99% of the US today an automobile is a
necessity not
a luxury. That said, do not believe that price does not affect gas
usage.
I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not
been here generally just don't understand this
Den 29. apr. 2006 kl. 14.30 skrev William Robb:
- Original Message - From: Malcolm Smith
Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices
I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not
been here generally just don't understand this about the USA.
Things are far apart here
Many American cities are close together. If you count the suburbs where
commuters live, New York and Philadelphia almost touch. Ditto New York
and Boston. But that's beside the point. Part of the American psyche
depends heavily on mobility and freedom of movement. Before we solve
the problem
Yes, let's all get together and move Chicago to just outside of New York
All together now ... 1-2-3 PUSH! LOL
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Bob W
And move your cities a bit closer together...
Den 29. apr. 2006 kl. 15.11 skrev Bob Shell:
On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Bob W wrote:
I find that Europeans and people from the UK
we're Europeans too!
Some of my UK friends bristle if called European, so I always try
to make the distinction.
From an English newspaper:
Storm in the
There are a couple of problems with this, I don't expect that steam will
make a comeback, as direct to electricity is more
convenient. Then there's the waste CO(2) from using methane. I don't
see it as a problem but the global warming fanatics
will.
Cotty wrote:
On 28/4/06, Bob W,
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/04/29 Sat PM 03:34:59 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)
There are a couple of problems with this, I don't expect that steam will
make a comeback, as direct to electricity is more
Bob W wrote:
Unfortunately in 99% of the US today an automobile is a
necessity not
a luxury. That said, do not believe that price does not affect gas
usage.
I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not
been here generally just don't understand this about the
with N.
America.
--
Cheers,
Bob
-Original Message-
From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 April 2006 14:34
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices
don't go confusing Europe and the European Union. Europe
stretches from the Urals to the Atlantic
Think taxes, in NYC the combined state local and federal taxes are
approaching $1.00 per gallon. In Wyoming the state and local taxes are
pretty much non existent.
Bob Shell wrote:
On Apr 28, 2006, at 12:23 AM, John Mullan wrote:
take a gander at this page.
Sounds so reasonable now...
Bob Shell wrote:
On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:20 AM, Bob W wrote:
but that's because you guys have arranged it that way. You can
unarrange it
by building better railroads and improved buses.
And move your cities a bit closer together... That reminds me of an
Not all of you agree on that...
Bob W wrote:
I find that Europeans and people from the UK
we're Europeans too!
Bob
--
When you're worried or in doubt,
Run in circles, (scream and shout).
peninsula on the westernmost tip of Europe.
--
Cheers,
Bob
-Original Message-
From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 April 2006 14:00
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
What really is shocking is when you look on a globe and see
what a tiny place
Another example to show the comparative size of the US:
I live in California, in the San Francisco Bay area -
one of the more densely populated regions of the USA.
There was an article in the paper yesterday about a
guy who wanted to live out in the rural areas, where
he could afford several
I agree, but around here there is a bright side: Even if fuel prices
are increasing the larger effect is that Norway as a country earns a
lot of money. Our pensions are secured .-)
The smart thing to do for the future is to develop alternatives, find
other ways to produce fuel.
DagT
High speed micro turbine electricity generation. Waste heat is enormous...
mike wilson wrote:
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/04/29 Sat PM 03:34:59 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: OT - Fuel Cells (was - Re: Local Gas Prices)
There are a couple of problems
From what I have seen of European cities in movies, we do not have
traffic congestion problems here in the US anyway. This may be one of
those pot and kettle discussions.
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On Apr 29, 2006, at 12:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Think taxes, in NYC the combined state local and federal taxes are
approaching $1.00 per gallon. In Wyoming the state and local taxes
are pretty much non existent.
Sounds like a good reason to move out there.
Bob
From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/04/29 Sat PM 05:17:45 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
From what I have seen of European cities in movies, we do not have
traffic congestion problems here in the US anyway. This may be one of
those pot
and they're all on the 110 at the same time...
mike wilson wrote:
From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/04/29 Sat PM 05:17:45 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
From what I have seen of European cities in movies, we do not have
traffic congestion problems
Sure. In that case, North America is tiny compared with Europe. As long as
you forget everything except Maryland.
--
Cheers,
Bob
-Original Message-
From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 April 2006 16:44
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
Those who disagree with me will be given a fair trial, then shot, in the
interests of democracy.
--
Cheers,
Bob
-Original Message-
From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 April 2006 17:34
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
Not all of you
Only Scotlandshire, and you're welcome to it.
--
Cheers,
Bob
-Original Message-
From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 April 2006 17:41
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
In that case you're Americans, if I remember my Plate
tectonics
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 April 2006 18:54
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Re: Local Gas Prices
From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/04/29 Sat PM 05:17:45 GMT
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
From what I have seen of European
that definitely explains why every other car on the hiways is an
suv. i bet once gas prices get north of $5, the public transportation
will get to european level quite quickly.
best,
mishka
On 4/29/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not
too late for that
mishka
We could move New Orleans in between Baltimore and NYC, I suppose.
Bob
the daily comute to work to NYC iwould become a killer for me.
i'd rather pay for gas.
best,
mishka
On 4/29/06, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 29, 2006, at 12:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Think taxes, in NYC the combined state local and federal taxes are
approaching $1.00 per
-Original Message-
From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 April 2006 16:44
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
Forget Russia and it is. In fact it's smaller than 2 Canadian
Provinces (Quebec, if you count north-south vs. east-west,
and Ontario
On 29/4/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
we're Europeans too!
Har, speak for yourself!!!
Cheers,
Cotty
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William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: Malcolm Smith
Subject: RE: Local Gas Prices
I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not
been here generally just don't understand this about
On 29/4/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
Brittan
Peter, your regressing again...
Cheers,
Cotty
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On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 14:11:42 +0100, Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:23 AM, Bob W wrote:
I find that Europeans and people from the UK
we're Europeans too!
Some of my UK friends bristle if called European, so I always try to
make the distinction.
You need to
Bob Shell wrote:
I find that Europeans and people from the UK who have not been here
generally just don't understand this about the USA. Things are far
apart here, and for the most part we don't have transportation
alternatives. Most of us don't have access to passenger train
service. Bus
- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
Many American cities are close together. If you count the suburbs where
commuters live, New York and Philadelphia almost touch. Ditto New York and
Boston. But that's beside the point. Part of the American
- Original Message -
From: Adam Maas
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
Forget Russia and it is. In fact it's smaller than 2 Canadian Provinces
(Quebec, if you count north-south vs. east-west, and Ontario)
To be fair, those are the two largest provinces.
William Robb
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
Forget Russia and it is. In fact it's smaller than 2 Canadian
Provinces (Quebec, if you count north-south vs. east-west,
and Ontario)
-Adam
Bob W wrote:
Correction: it's not larger - I just looked at a map. I was
thinking of
the whole
. As long
as
you forget everything except Maryland.
--
Cheers,
Bob
-Original Message-
From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 April 2006 16:44
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
Forget Russia and it is. In fact it's smaller than 2 Canadian
Provinces
That seems fairly unlikely, but I would expect that intercity trains for
intermediate distances might make a comeback. Then again the Federal
Government would have to repeal some of tax disincentives that killed
them in the first place.
Mishka wrote:
that definitely explains why every
Hey, the spell checker let it pass and I wasn't paying attention.
(That's my story and I'm stickin' to it).
Cotty wrote:
On 29/4/06, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
Brittan
Peter, your regressing again...
Cheers,
Cotty
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So the Republicans get voted out because high gas prices are caused by
external problems. The democrats are voted in and their solution to
high gas prices is to put higher taxes on gasoline and oil producers...
They'll be gone two years if they follow that prescription, (which is
exactly
- Original Message -
From: graywolf
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
Of course Bush's cronies may lower gas prices 6 months before the
election, and my opinion of the public's intelligence says they will
forget by election time.
That would require the aquisition of oil at less
- Original Message -
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
high gas prices are caused by
external problems.
That is debatable, but this is not the forum to debate it.
William Robb
Subject: Re: Local Gas Prices
Of course Bush's cronies may lower gas prices 6 months before the
election, and my opinion of the public's intelligence says they will
forget by election time.
That would require the aquisition of oil at less than the world PPB.
Not sure how he would do
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Um, the oil companies can easily sell gas for far less than they're
currently getting. Exxon profits are in the billion plus per quarter
range. They will make the sacrifice when called upon.
Their gross and net margins are flat. They're simply selling more
product, and
Billion PLUS!?
This past quarter Exxon/Mobile had profits of more than 8-billion, and the
last quarter of 2005 their profits were more than 10-billion (that's
American dollars, boys, and a lot of 'em)
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Paul Stenquist
Um, the oil companies can easily sell gas
Where do you get those figures from? My understanding is that they are
making the highest percentage of profit to gross right now of anytime
since WWII.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf
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- Original Message -
From: Shel Belinkoff
Billion PLUS!?
This past quarter Exxon/Mobile had profits of more than 8-billion, and the
last quarter of 2005 their profits were more than 10-billion (that's
American dollars, boys, and a lot of 'em)
How many gallons of gas did they
graywolf wrote:
Where do you get those figures from? My understanding is that they are
making the highest percentage of profit to gross right now of anytime
since WWII.
Their SEC filings as of a month or two ago.
--
Thanks,
DougF (KG4LMZ)
graywolf wrote:
Where do you get those figures from? My understanding is that they are
making the highest percentage of profit to gross right now of anytime
since WWII.
Notice that not a single news report (well, maybe one or two, but not
the ones I've seen) talks about their margin rates,
Gallons of gas sold is only a part of such a company's profit picture.
Profits are generated from other areas as well, including investments and
refining. Almost 1/4 of their profits came from refining. For example,
when they bought or contracted for crude @ $40.00 per barrel, and the price
Op Fri, 28 Apr 2006 05:07:55 +0200 schreef P. J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
About $2.99 for regular.
Quickly approaching €1,50/l (which is about $7,- per gallon). Glad I ride
a bicycle to work :o)
I haven't seen any fewer cars on the road...
No, but people do adapt their style of
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4950680.stm
That's $6.52 per US gallon at today's exchange rates.
Not that I care much since I don't have a car anymore.
--
Cheers,
Bob
-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 April 2006 03:22
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