Re: New Zoom Lenses : Highest Zoom Ever??

2015-02-05 Thread Bill
On 05/02/2015 12:37 PM, J C OConnell wrote: I don't know why they are calling the 150-450mm their highest zoom ever. I own a Pentax Zoom takumar that is 135-600mm F6.7. Even though mine is a screwmount, they made the same lens available in K mount back in the 70's jco Remember the crop

Re: New Zoom Lenses : Highest Zoom Ever??

2015-02-05 Thread P.J. Alling
The writer was probably born in the 1980's and history began for him, at least, the day he was born and will end the day he dies. Ricoh didn't correct that because they have no interest in promoting old Pentax lenses, only new ones. On 2/5/2015 1:37 PM, J C OConnell wrote: I don't know why

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-05 Thread Larry Colen
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Re: New Zoom lenses on Sale at Pentax Store

2015-02-05 Thread P.J. Alling
I expect a Full Frame body is now on it's way, K mount with a Pentaprism, the lenses are available for pre-order at BH now. List price of course, (other people will be excited about the New Oly OM-D EM5 MARK II). At those prices I would hope that those lenses would be optically near

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-05 Thread P.J. Alling
Just because you don't have a need to work in rabidly changing light doesn't mean no one does.I'm not saying everyone works the same or has the same needs, Now Nikon at the top end supports their aperture simulator well at least one of them. Pentax could make theirs work more easily, they

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-05 Thread Mark C
I'm a little surprised that a normal zoom (24/28 - 70/100) was not announced, though there is plenty of time between now and mid October. Mark On 2/3/2015 10:38 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Via Asahi Man at DP Review, according to Photo Rumors, two new lenses are to be released on 5 Feb. Both

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-05 Thread John Francis
I'd expect to see any such lens announced as a possible 'kit lens' with the new FF body. I'm with Paul, though - the newly announced item that interests me the most is the 150-450 zoom. I've got an 80-200/f2.8 that I haven't used since I got the 60-250/f4, so the 70-200 doesn't really tempt me.

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-05 Thread J C OConnell
Pentax probaby wont support aperture rings on this new FF body to help keep it cost competitive, but once they get a few FF bodies under their belt, there's always the possibility of supporting the rings later on a top line model. ?? jco On 2/5/2015 12:42 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Just because

Re: New Zoom Lenses : Highest Zoom Ever??

2015-02-05 Thread J C OConnell
I don't know why they are calling the 150-450mm their highest zoom ever. I own a Pentax Zoom takumar that is 135-600mm F6.7. Even though mine is a screwmount, they made the same lens available in K mount back in the 70's jco On 2/5/2015 12:52 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: I don't know, this time

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-05 Thread P.J. Alling
I don't know, this time I think you're hat should be worried. On 2/4/2015 4:17 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 4/2/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed: I think I'll save my frenzy until they actually announce a FF DSLR. Me too! http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/yum.html -- I don't want to

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-05 Thread P.J. Alling
I think Leica already makes one of those, don't they. Then there's the cabal that want's a Fuji full frame, which is especially silly, since the current Fuji system is designed around the APS-C format sensor and is therefor already full frame... On 2/5/2015 2:19 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote:

RE: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-05 Thread Malcolm Smith
P.J. Alling wrote: I think Leica already makes one of those, don't they. Then there's the cabal that want's a Fuji full frame, which is especially silly, since the current Fuji system is designed around the APS-C format sensor and is therefor already full frame... Whatever they launch,

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-05 Thread John
On 2/4/2015 5:34 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 4/2/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed: If that day ever comes, I hope you'll bring it to Grandfather Mountain to hold the feast. You bring the maple syrup ;-) It's a deal. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion -

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-05 Thread John
Then you have reason enough to buy two of them. On 2/4/2015 11:04 PM, Alan C wrote: What about those who want to need one? Alan C -Original Message- From: James King Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:27 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: New Zoom Lenses Malcolm Smith wrote on Tue

RE: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Malcolm Smith
J C Oconnell wrote: remember when Pentax was late with their first DSLR compared to the competition? Using the same logic, everyone who wanted a DSLR would have already switched to Canon, nikon. That didnt happen and Pentax caught up in the APSC DSLR competion. I remember the long

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Malcolm, while I understand what you meant, -- the photographers who are hooked on a particular system and have invested in the glass, etc. But that's only part of the picture. Your conclusion is based on the assumption that there is no movement on the DSLR market. First of all, there are

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread J C OConnell
I never even switched to an advanced film SLR, I was very happily using my spotmatics and takumars until I bought a Pentax DSLR. I did have one K mount body to use K lenses and motordrive but it was a low model A3000. jco On 2/4/2015 11:44 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Malcolm, while I understand

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread John
On 2/3/2015 10:38 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Via Asahi Man at DP Review, according to Photo Rumors, two new lenses are to be released on 5 Feb. Both are D-FA. Let FFF (full frame frenzy) commence HD Pentax-D FA 70-200mm f/2.8 Pentax-D FA 150-450mm f/4.5-5.6

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 4 Feb 2015, at 03:38, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Via Asahi Man at DP Review, according to Photo Rumors, two new lenses are to be released on 5 Feb. Both are D-FA. Let FFF (full frame frenzy) commence I shall eat mine with a nice Chianti. FFF... B -- PDML

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Larry Colen
P.J. Alling wrote: Kind of old news, they were displayed at CES with the new K-50 replacement, (still to be named). I don't know how much credence you should put in a web site that lists as related news rumors of a cheaper Pemtax mirrorless camera from 2012! Really, since Pentax won't offer

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Malcolm, Yep, agree. The lack of Pentax brand at the camera stores is not helping. ... but!... 1. There are very few true camera stores remaining. For many people, especially in smaller cities, the only places selling cameras are BestBuy, Walmart and Target. So, if people are advanced

RE: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Malcolm Smith
Igor wrote: Malcolm, while I understand what you meant, -- the photographers who are hooked on a particular system and have invested in the glass, etc. But that's only part of the picture. Your conclusion is based on the assumption that there is no movement on the DSLR market. First of

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread John
On 2/4/2015 4:17 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 4/2/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed: I think I'll save my frenzy until they actually announce a FF DSLR. Me too! http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/yum.html If that day ever comes, I hope you'll bring it to Grandfather Mountain to hold the

RE: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread James King
Malcolm Smith wrote on Tue, 03 Feb 2015 23:36:50 -0800 (snip) The real problem with selling an FF camera when the competition has had them on the camera store shelves for years, is who are they going to sell it to in a large enough quantity to justify the expense? Everyone who really

RE: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Malcolm Smith
James King wrote: Yes, but many who *want* one rather than *need* one are still out there. IMO most FF enthusiasts are in this category, myself included. Can't disagree, I fall into the same category. I just hope there is enough of a market for a FF body. I'd be delighted to see such a camera

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Malcolm Smith Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:43:55 -0800 wrote: Can't disagree, I fall into the same category. I just hope there is enough of a market for a FF body. FF body, - in this context it sounds almost as superlative of F. ;-) PS. And with respect to need vs want, - James wrote exactly what

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread John
On 2/4/2015 3:28 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote: Igor wrote: Yep, agree. The lack of Pentax brand at the camera stores is not helping. ... but!... 1. There are very few true camera stores remaining. For many people, especially in smaller cities, the only places selling cameras are BestBuy, Walmart

RE: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Malcolm Smith
Igor wrote: Yep, agree. The lack of Pentax brand at the camera stores is not helping. ... but!... 1. There are very few true camera stores remaining. For many people, especially in smaller cities, the only places selling cameras are BestBuy, Walmart and Target. So, if people are advanced

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/2/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed: I think I'll save my frenzy until they actually announce a FF DSLR. Me too! http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/yum.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread J C OConnell
these new D-FA lenses are larger, heavier, and more expensive than a DA lens of the same focal length and speed so it seems there would be no reason for pentax to develop and sell them UNLESS a FF digital DSLR is on the way soon. I just hope the new FF body is not too expensive. jco On 2/4/2015

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread J C OConnell
remember when Pentax was late with their first DSLR compared to the competition? Using the same logic, everyone who wanted a DSLR would have already switched to Canon, nikon. That didnt happen and Pentax caught up in the APSC DSLR competion. On 2/4/2015 10:17 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: On

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Alan C
What about those who want to need one? Alan C -Original Message- From: James King Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:27 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: New Zoom Lenses Malcolm Smith wrote on Tue, 03 Feb 2015 23:36:50 -0800 (snip) The real problem with selling an FF camera

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Brian Walters
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:27 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: New Zoom Lenses Malcolm Smith wrote on Tue, 03 Feb 2015 23:36:50 -0800 (snip) The real problem with selling an FF camera when the competition has had them on the camera store shelves for years, is who are they going

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 4/2/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed: If that day ever comes, I hope you'll bring it to Grandfather Mountain to hold the feast. You bring the maple syrup ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv

Re: New Zoom lenses on Sale at Pentax Store

2015-02-04 Thread Rob Studdert
Ouch, that's AU$3218.85 directly converted for the 70-200 here less all the outrageous taxes, very glad I picked up my Sigma 70-200 new for AU$610 On 5 February 2015 at 11:03, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: 2499.95 for the 150-450:

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv: On 4/2/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed: I think I'll save my frenzy until they actually announce a FF DSLR. Me too! http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/yum.html If you start marinating it now, it might just be tender enough to force down by

RE: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Malcolm Smith
Brian Walters wrote: ... or neither want nor need one... Because they want a rangefinder? FF of course! Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread P.J. Alling
On 2/4/2015 2:35 AM, Malcolm Smith wrote: Brian Walters wrote: Via Asahi Man at DP Review, according to Photo Rumors, two new lenses are to be released on 5 Feb. Both are D-FA. Let FFF (full frame frenzy) commence HD Pentax-D FA 70-200mm f/2.8 Pentax-D FA 150-450mm f/4.5-5.6

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote: On 4/2/15, John, discombobulated, unleashed: I think I'll save my frenzy until they actually announce a FF DSLR. Me too! http://www.seeingeye.tv/pages/yum.html Good thing you posted that quickly. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com --

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-03 Thread Darren Addy
Also via Asahi Man at DPReview: Like I told month ago,with good luck we will also see the SLR body. This lens and the fullframe body are to see in internal Pentax papers for the Pentax office's. Press release is in outbox. This year we could get 3 till 4 lenses,next time altogether approximately

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-03 Thread P.J. Alling
Kind of old news, they were displayed at CES with the new K-50 replacement, (still to be named). I don't know how much credence you should put in a web site that lists as related news rumors of a cheaper Pemtax mirrorless camera from 2012! Really, since Pentax won't offer better aperture

Re: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-03 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: Kind of old news, they were displayed at CES with the new K-50 replacement, (still to be named). True, but they were just shown as prototypes with no details. I don't know how much credence you should put in a web site that lists as

RE: New Zoom Lenses

2015-02-03 Thread Malcolm Smith
Brian Walters wrote: Via Asahi Man at DP Review, according to Photo Rumors, two new lenses are to be released on 5 Feb. Both are D-FA. Let FFF (full frame frenzy) commence HD Pentax-D FA 70-200mm f/2.8 Pentax-D FA 150-450mm f/4.5-5.6