Mark wrote:
What baffles me is that the Mz-S - just released a couple of years ago - not only
supports the aperture ring but _needs_ it for aperture priority and metered manual
operation. I don't think releasing a new, limited mount in the new flagship would have
made a lot of sense, but if
At 12:08 PM 6/8/2003 +0200, Bojidar Dimitrov wrote:
I do not think so. I think that Pentax's future really lies in the
crippled (AKA FAJ-mount, AKA Kaf3), and if they are to do this thing,
then why not now? For the kinds of customers that Pentax is after, it
really makes sense economically to
but if Pentax knew this was the direction they were going in why not
include on-body aperture control?
Judging from the Pentax K mount history, I have a strong feeling that they
have never had a strong vision, let alone direction. We all know they have
had many never-seen-the-light products, as
Next June 22nd we'll have a production *ist D to try at Pentax Day, so at
the end I'll get an idea of how it works.
Dario Bonazza
www.aohc.it
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From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Pentax's future
I'd call it the Pentax D Day.
Dario Bonazza 2 wrote:
Next June 22nd we'll have a production *ist D to try at Pentax Day, so at
the end I'll get an idea of how it works.
Dario Bonazza
www.aohc.it
And I choose tripod before USM. I never did figure out
how this is supposed to be so wonderful. The bigger the lens,
the harder to handhold. Jeeze, just how long do you want to
hold even a 300mm lens waiting for the moment?
In fact, most of my tripod shots are pre-framed, pre-focused,
and I sit
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From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 17:57
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And I choose tripod before USM. I never did figure out
how this is supposed to be so wonderful. The bigger the lens,
the harder to handhold
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From: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And I choose tripod before USM. I never did figure out
how this is supposed to be so wonderful. The bigger the lens,
the harder to handhold. Jeeze, just how long do you want to
hold even a 300mm lens waiting for
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From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My 70-200/2.8 IS should be here in time for this weekend's
gig...thanks Mark!
Let me know how it works out. *That's a lens I'd like to
try out! (Wish
I'd had time to try out the
tv's signature shot. Which lens was it this time?
Christian Skofteland
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From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.bigdayphoto.com/images/MarkAndTom.jpg
tv
16-35/2.8
tv
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From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:39 PM
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Subject: tom's signature shot (was: Re: Pentax's future)
tv's signature shot. Which lens was it this time?
Christian Skofteland
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From: Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is also my prediction that if Pentax survives this transition (from
Kaf2 to crippled-mount), there will eventually be a further mount
evolution that will support IS lenses. I am sure that the *ist and ist
D mount does
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From: Heiko Hamann
Subject: Re: Pentax's future
Not much time ago I read on this list, that Pentax will never release
a
DLSR...;-)
Then it should come as no surprise to you that they still haven't
released one.
William Robb
Hi William,
on 10 Jun 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
Not much time ago I read on this list, that Pentax will never release
a DLSR...;-)
Then it should come as no surprise to you that they still haven't
released one.
Isn't that hair-splitting? As there are severeal people among us having
dealt
I have the feeling that Pentax is trying to follow the Nikon route -
drop
the aperture ring, introduce AF-S, then VR.
What's AF-S, besides the autofocus, single setting on the MZ-S?
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX:
I'm wouldn't be too upset about this, after all everyone on staff probably uses
Canon, maybe a Nikon holdout here or there. If they actually handled the
camera they got it with a couple of Pentax supplied lenses. But considering
the lead time in Magazines the decision was made based on the
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From: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm wouldn't be too upset about this, after all everyone on
staff probably uses
Canon, maybe a Nikon holdout here or there.
I'm not upset, I said oddly a bit tongue in cheek.
I would assume if they picked it and had a
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From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 17:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Pentax's future
Well, there aren't that many DSLR's out there, just about every one in
production made the list, including the Sigma. They did leave out the D1X
and H
Actually, Pop photo had the *ist D on their proof sheet page. Basic
description, no evaluation.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
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Ah, so compatibility raises it ugly head yet again.
At 12:39 PM 6/10/03 -0400, tv wrote:
snip
It's notable (to them) due to the claim that's it's the smallest DSLR
and it takes Pentax Af and MF lenses. They also mention the good
viewfinder.
tv
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Bojidar wrote:
Now, this is all a speculation on my side, but just like the prediction
that the *ist and *ist D will not work with the K/M lenses,
No offense, but it wasn't much of a prediction as it well known in Japan at PMA times
and the same whine war as we have now was raging on
Corrected message!
Bojidar wrote:
Now, this is all a speculation on my side, but just like the prediction
that the *ist and *ist D will not work with the K/M lenses,
No offense, but it wasn't much of a prediction as it well known in Japan at PMA times
and the same whine war as we have now
I agree with most cited below except the speculative part. I do think Pentax is about
to introduce a new lens mount interface but I can't see any reasons to assume that
they won't make an easy upgrade path. This path will be visible in upper end models;
not bottom of the line film and digital
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 12:08:27 +0200
From: Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Boz,
...
... it
really makes sense economically to leave out the
aperture ring and the
aperture simulator. These are complex mechanical
shapes that require
lots of machining and complex assembly, and they
Peter wrote:
Then they've lost me, and all of the people I would have convinced to
buy Pentax cameras who would never have considered them. That includes
most of the people on this list who discovered Pentax as a place where
quality and customer loyalty, as well as loyalty to the customer
Customers and users are and have always been two different categories.
Some uses are also customers, but crossing the boundary is up to them.
Either way, they can be fiercely loyal in either guise... Pentaxians all...
keith whaley
I haven't been a buyer (customer) for a LONG time, but don't tell
Or there might be a Limited lens without an aperture ring, and if it is a
good one, you will all buy it. This will ease your move towards the
crippled mount.
LIMITED lens without an aperture ring is no LIMITED lens no more. Oh wait!
What's a better name for a lens with limited ability? :-)
If the plain K-mount compatibility is really gone (and I agree it is) then
actually the IS is not as critical as the USM IMHO.
If you ask me, I think both are important these days. However, if one must
choose, I will put IS before USM. It really saves your lots of blurred shots
with telephotos.
It is fun to speculate but I can't see any reasons why not Pentax would
make manual aperture adjustment from the body available with F and FA
lenses with upper end bodies. Limiting such use makes no sense from any
perspective as it doesn't need mechanical transmissions. Not does make any
sense
Heiko Hamann wrote:
Hi Bojidar,
on 08 Jun 03 you wrote in pentax.list:
The decision to make K and M lenses obsolete (DO YOU ALL BELIEVE ME
NOW?
No.
Now, this is all a speculation on my side, but just like the prediction
that the *ist and *ist D will not work with the K/M lenses,
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