Actually, I was thinking about this rumour:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1028message=9474786
a REAL full frame 645...
DagT
Fra: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Once again I must ask, Why. It makes more sense to put the FF sensor in
a 35mm size body, maybe with a
: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is
Dying)
On 18 Jul 2004 at 16:21, Antonio Aparicio wrote:
You correct Don. DOF is an issue for 1.5x cropped APS digital sensor
cameras. Of course, having said that its only an issue if you enjoy a
shallow DOF. For those who want greater DOF I guess
Yes, but because of the crop factor your 85mm portrait lens is now a
132mm lens. Therefore for a portrait lens you would use say the 50mm,
hence a different DOF, no?
A.
On 19 Jul 2004, at 01:20, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 18 Jul 2004 at 16:21, Antonio Aparicio wrote:
You correct Don. DOF is an
Yes, but what about the old 85mm range which is what most people use
for portraits?
A.
On 19 Jul 2004, at 03:53, Rob Studdert wrote:
On 18 Jul 2004 at 21:40, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Makes no sense, for same AOV you are using shorter lenses and
have a smaller reproduction ratio with APS size
not aware of at work here?
Don
-Original Message-
From: Tom Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 6:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is
Dying)
Antonio wrote:
Shorter lenses have greater DOF
Message-
From: Tom Reese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 6:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is
Dying)
Antonio wrote:
Shorter lenses have greater DOF and because you are using shorter
lenses to get the same AOV
On 19 Jul 2004 at 7:39, Tom Reese wrote:
Antonio wrote:
Shorter lenses have greater DOF and because you are using shorter
lenses to get the same AOV as with 35mm you are therefore getting more
DOF.
It doesn't work that way. If you shoot a full length portrait with a 135mm
lens at f/8
- Original Message -
From: Antonio Aparicio
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100
Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)
Yes, but because of the crop factor your 85mm portrait lens is now
a
132mm lens. Therefore for a portrait lens you would use say the
50mm,
hence
:
- Original Message -
From: Antonio Aparicio
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100
Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)
Yes, but because of the crop factor your 85mm portrait lens is now
a
132mm lens. Therefore for a portrait lens you would use say the
50mm,
hence a different
John Francis wrote:
A few years ago many of the best 16x20 and 20x30 prints were digitally
produced on a lighjet printer (205ppi R/G/B lasers on photographic paper).
I remember that. LaserPhoto or something like that, out of Florida.
Amazing prints. They had some type of process where they
-Original Message-
From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 3:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying?
Hi,
El Gringo wrote:
snicker
do that. Also, digital sensors are limited by physics, but there may be a
day when there is a sensor for every photon
På 19. jul. 2004 kl. 19.11 skrev Gonz:
El Gringo wrote:
Maybe a thousand years from now,
science will invent a gravity generator, then a portable gravity
generator,
then tiny gravity generators and anti-gravity generators, then maybe
cameras
in the future will focus with perfectly formed
the idiots in the world all to often... Thanks for reminding me.
-el gringo
-Original Message-
From: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying?
El Gringo wrote:
Maybe a thousand years from now,
science
Once again I must ask, Why. It makes more sense to put the FF sensor in
a 35mm size body, maybe with a dual
lens mount 645 and K mount but the 35mm lenses have a major advantage in
resolution.
DagT wrote:
På 16. jul. 2004 kl. 22.48 skrev Alan Chan:
there are probably other equally plausible
On 17 Jul 2004 at 21:05, El Gringo wrote:
Sorry if this is old news but only came though a moment ago:
You're so negative Rob, why is that??
I guess I'm just older and wiser than yourself, give it time, you'll get there,
just don't be impatient :-)
It's scheduled for early 2005, not
What's a Cotty? Did he convert to Canonism?
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 17. juli 2004 09:34
Til: pentax list
Emne: Re: Pentax is Dying?
On 17/7/04, Rob Studdert, discombobulated
. There will always be a place for portable systems, but
for
those who want the UTMOST quality, MF is the promised land.
-el gringo
-Original Message-
From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying?
On 17
On 17/7/04, Herb Chong, discombobulated, offered:
i'm giving them until October to promise a high end DSLR body and a couple
of lenses of FA* quality with DA features. if not then, i can't wait and
continue to lose photos that i haven't been able to get purely because of
hardware limitations.
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Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 8:19 PM
Subject: RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)
I guess most DSLR buyers are looking for practical and affordable lenses,
instead of luxury lenses like the Limited which really aim for manual
focus
buyers.
On 18 Jul 2004 at 7:41, Herb Chong wrote:
the ones that are paying attention to their images will discover that the
practical and affordable lenses are not good enough for the *istD. the lens
quality matters even more with a DSLR than with a film camera.
What makes you say this Herb?
All my
well, let's just say that i'm not optomistic either.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying
Ain't gonna happen Herb. I reckon the best you can hope for is the *ist D
Alan Chan wrote:
Some news from Taiwan retailers (or just rumour) suggested some Pentax FA
lenses were not manufactured anymore (like FA100/2.8 FA50/2.8 etc)
because
they are expecting new lenses to replace them. But then again, nobody can
confirm.
Just wait a few weeks and you'll see...
On 18 Jul 2004 at 14:12, Dario Bonazza wrote:
Just wait a few weeks and you'll see...
I'll be more disappointed than ever if they start fixing areas of the lens line-
up where it 'aint broke before they fix where it is i.e. down the wide/fast
end.
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel
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From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)
What makes you say this Herb?
All my primes but for the FA24/2 seem up to the task.
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll be more disappointed than ever if they start fixing areas of the lens
line-up where it 'aint broke before they fix where it is i.e. down the wide/fast
end.
Frankly, I have no problem with Pentax's lens lineup at all. I suppose
I'd rather like a fast
: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is
Dying)
my observations while scanning a lot of slides, mostly Provia 100F.
acceptable lenses that seemed to deliver neglibly
Message-
From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 7:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is
Dying)
my observations while scanning a lot of slides, mostly Provia 100F.
acceptable lenses that seemed
? (Re: Pentax is Dying)
Do you attribute this to rather unforgiving square pixels in digital as
versus the softer random edges in film grain?
Most of my lenses are in the adequate/good/very good category, I'd hate to
think I'd get less from them than I do now by going digital.
, 2004 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is
Dying)
that's one factor. the other is the automatic 1.5 magnification of the
center portion of the lens circle.
Herb
- Original Message -
From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL
generators and anti-gravity generators, then maybe cameras
in the future will focus with perfectly formed gravity lenses...
-el gringo
-Original Message-
From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying
. Way, way, way, beyond and the istD
cant approch
what my $125 4x5 speed graphic can do with film, color or BW, NOW.
JCO
-Original Message-
From: El Gringo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 1:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying?
Sorry, Thats
Perhaps but I wasnt talking low end 35mm systems. I was talking 35mm
SLR vs digital APS SLR. Pentax *ist Film vs Pentax *istD, for arguments
sake each with the same glass.
A.
On 18 Jul 2004, at 19:39, El Gringo wrote:
Sorry, Thats bullshit. What you get from a digital PS camera easily
exceeds
cant approch
what my $125 4x5 speed graphic can do with film, color or BW, NOW.
JCO
-Original Message-
From: El Gringo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 1:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying?
Sorry, Thats bullshit. What you get from a digital PS
that's one factor. the other is the automatic 1.5 magnification of the
center portion of the lens circle.
I'm not aware of magnification. It is a crop of the central part of the
lens circle, giving a field of view that looks like a 1.5x magnification.
Even the photography magazines seem to have
And maybee pigs will fly.
A.
On 18 Jul 2004, at 19:39, El Gringo wrote:
Maybe a thousand years from now,
science will invent a gravity generator, then a portable gravity
generator,
then tiny gravity generators and anti-gravity generators, then maybe
cameras
in the future will focus with
Alan wrote:
I read the patent for the 118/2.4 too last year but it doesn't make sense for Pentax
ro release another expensive Limited lens consider the last one (FA31/1.8) hasn't sold
that well.
REPLY:
I've no idea whether there will be more Limited lenses. I've heard though, that the
El Gringo wrote:
The 645 digital on the other hand
has massive potential. It could be made smaller than it is, more in the
range of a large 35mm, it could burst faster than any film MF camera, and it
has a real viewfinder, unlike the Mamiya 7. Not to mention that it has a
nice range of high
Message -
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)
that's one factor. the other is the automatic 1.5 magnification of the
center portion of the lens circle
with it.
Whew! I think I understood what I just said!
Don
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 1:05 PM
To: pdml
Subject: Re: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is
Dying)
that's one factor. the other is the automatic
: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is
Dying)
But it seems that if you take the same information from a SMALLER
section of
the image circle,
Then enlarge that to the same size you would have using the FULL FRAME the
image circle is capable of,
you have magnified
Have you seen the new (?) Mamiya 7 II? Popular Photography July 2004
adv., page 7.
I have not yet compared to the model 7 (basic) but it does seem
comparatively small for a 6x7 cm camera...
They must be very expensive, as I can't find a hint of a price on their
web site.
keith whaley
Pål
Earlier Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Antonio wrote:
Not to mention the poor quality of those digital prints.
Here I must disagree. A properly printed digital print is equal in quality
to an average film print, up to 8x10 at least. Above 8x10 and for severe
crops I'll agree with you. Our
Antonio wrote:
Not to mention the poor quality of those digital prints.
Here I must disagree. A properly printed digital print is equal in quality
to an average film print, up to 8x10 at least. Above 8x10 and for severe
crops I'll agree with you. Our Frontier 375 minilab does a
The Mamiya 7II is the current model, the 7 was replaced by it about 3-4 years
ago. A 6x7 range finder camera with fabulous (by all reports) lenses. Yes it is
expensive, ridiculously so in the US, but many people think the image quality is
worth the money. Some think of it as a decendant of the
-Original Message-
From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 3:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying?
Antonio wrote:
Not to mention the poor quality of those digital prints.
Here I must disagree. A properly printed digital print is equal
I think the 7 is a follow on from the Mamiya 6 actually.
Antonio
On 18 Jul 2004, at 21:19, graywolf wrote:
Some think of it as a decendant of the Mamiya Press, but I would call
it more of a direct decendant of the Simon Omega Rapid, Koni-Omega,
Rapid Omega 100 (made by Mamiya) line of cameras.
Hi,
El Gringo wrote:
snicker
do that. Also, digital sensors are limited by physics, but there may be a
day when there is a sensor for every photon of light.
I'm not sure you are saying what you mean.
snak)
up significantly?? Decades ago?? What about digital?? A few months ago,
and not only
I stand corrected. Not having seen one of the prints you refer to i was
guided by poor quality stuff you get on the high-street. Obviously
there is more to it than that.
A.
On 18 Jul 2004, at 20:08, Bill Owens wrote:
Antonio wrote:
Not to mention the poor quality of those digital prints.
Here I
LOL!
mike wilson wrote:
So, if I don't _need_ one, why should I buy one now if a better one will
come along next month? That would be a remarkably stupid action by your
predictions. Except, if I and many others don't, what you prophesy will
not come to pass. I managed to destroy APS and disc
Hi,
Sunday, July 18, 2004, 9:33:52 PM, Antonio wrote:
I stand corrected. Not having seen one of the prints you refer to i was
guided by poor quality stuff you get on the high-street. Obviously
there is more to it than that.
You should pay attention at exhibitions. There are some
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Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 1:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying?
And maybee pigs will fly.
A.
On 18 Jul 2004, at 19:39, El Gringo wrote:
Maybe a thousand years from now,
science will invent a gravity generator, then a portable gravity
generator,
then tiny gravity
Hi,
Digital could be doomed..
Absolutely! I mean, the best they've been able to come up with so far
is the one on Hubble, and that can't resolve anything smaller than a
galaxy. Crap!
--
Cheers,
Bob
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Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying?
Hi,
El Gringo wrote:
snicker
do that. Also, digital sensors are limited by physics, but there may be a
day when there is a sensor for every photon of light.
I'm not sure you are saying what you mean.
snak)
up significantly?? Decades ago?? What about
to do
TTL view finding with digital quite obviously... Thats my point really, I
would love to see a Mamiya 7 III with a 14+ MP sensor.
-el gringo
-Original Message-
From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 2:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax
Will do, living in small village surrounded by the sea on one side and
by desert on the other on the south-eastern spanish coast its not that
easy to do - but will watch out for the prints next time I am at one in
London.
A.
On 18 Jul 2004, at 23:29, Bob W wrote:
Hi,
Sunday, July 18, 2004,
Ah, but isn't the Galaxy doomed?
A.
On 18 Jul 2004, at 23:53, Bob W wrote:
Hi,
Digital could be doomed..
Absolutely! I mean, the best they've been able to come up with so far
is the one on Hubble, and that can't resolve anything smaller than a
galaxy. Crap!
--
Cheers,
Bob
backwards fools, the rest of us are
moving
forward.*
-el gringo
-Original Message-
From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 1:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying?
And maybee pigs will fly.
A.
On 18 Jul 2004, at 19:39, El Gringo wrote:
Maybe
Lets not forget that the Pentax 645 system IS portable. In fact it weights
no more than comparable Nikon/Canon high-end slr systems. The 645 is down
right small compared to EOS-1Ds or similar! I'm sure Pentax will make a 645
DSLR even smaller.
Without the film transport mechanisms, it is quite
By then time viewers will have been invented so there won't be a need for photographs
as you can just set your picture frame to show any scene from any viewpoint at any
time.
Nick
-Original Message-
On 18 Jul 2004, at 19:39, El Gringo wrote:
Maybe a thousand years from
Hah! The same way they dealt with power supply issues with the *ist
Dlet the owners worry about it! Many other DSLR's come with
rechargeable batteries (or they are at least available for them), but
not the *ist D. This is a major let down IMHO. The ability to use of
AA's is great, but not
On 18 Jul 2004 at 21:40, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
Makes no sense, for same AOV you are using shorter lenses and
have a smaller reproduction ratio with APS size formatvs FF 35mm. DOF
should not be same as 35mm full frame format. It should be more DOF
than 35mm.
It might be a greater DOF in
Hi,
I just logged on to the list earlier today and this is my first message.
Can you explain what a wet mount is, why or how it is better than the
standard setup, and how you go about making such a modification. I've an
LS-9000 on order, and based on results I've gotten with a Tango drum
On 18 Jul 2004 at 20:24, Jerry Todd wrote:
Hi,
I just logged on to the list earlier today and this is my first message.
Can you explain what a wet mount is, why or how it is better than the
standard setup, and how you go about making such a modification.
Hi Jerry,
Wet mounting isn't a
.
-Original Message-
From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 19 July 2004 10:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying?
On 19 Jul 2004 at 6:40, Dr. Shaun Canning wrote:
Hah! The same way they dealt with power supply issues with the *ist
Dlet
at
a time.
-el gringo
-Original Message-
From: Dr. Shaun Canning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 5:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying?
Hah! The same way they dealt with power supply issues with the *ist
Dlet the owners worry about it! Many
On 19 Jul 2004 at 14:05, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:
OMG, Rob, did you just say something *positive* about the *istD?!!? Or was I
just hallucinating? Maybe I've been eating too many choc chip cookies... (I've
been on a bit of a baking binge the last few days...)
Sort of, in a round-about
battery replacement costs when the camera is getting on a
bit and no l9nger supported.
Nick
-Original Message-
From: Dr. Shaun Canning[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18/07/04 23:40:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying?
Hah! The same way
and the Optio MX are good excamples of these lines of future
Pentax cameras.
Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: El Gringo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 17. juli 2004 07:04
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: RE: Pentax is Dying?
Man you
On 17/7/04, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, offered:
Maybe they have been in the process of replacing the FA lenses?
That would be nice, a set of DA prime lenses with the Quick shift focus
and the 14mm build.
Let´s face it, the FF sensor is for the 645 :-)
If they do that and replace
Given recent discussions, it might offend someone to describe him as
Canonized...:-)
No brand glorification intended, though...
Jostein
- Original Message -
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 10:30 AM
Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying
- Original Message -
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying
I've been told (by Pentax distributors) that Pentax have no plans of
meeting demand for the *istD. Maybe the same is the case for the DA lenses
- Original Message -
From: Otis Wright
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying
And, when is this supposed to happen? I hear all these promises
about
how good its going to be... you know the rest of the
story..
I've heard that there will be wonderful things announced
- Original Message -
From: Pål Jensen
Subject: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is
Dying)
Alan wrote:
Some news from Taiwan retailers (or just rumour) suggested some
Pentax FA
lenses were not manufactured anymore (like FA100/2.8 FA50/2.8
etc) because
- Original Message -
From: Alan Chan
Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying?
Also, DA16-45 does not meet the built quality of Canon L lenses.
I don't think it meets the price point of the Canon L lenses either.
William Robb
Unique? What about the Hasselblad H1 - isn't that a 645 that will take
both film and digital backs? Or the Mamiya 645? I guess if the rumored
new digital Pentax 645 is a dedicated digital body then that will be
kinda of unique, although not as flexible or indeed desirable as the
other systems
Its also almost half the price of Canon L lens. I'm not bragging, I'm
saying WAIT AND SEE.
-el gringo
-Original Message-
From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 12:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying?
I think it is quite pointless
-Original Message-
From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying?
Unique? What about the Hasselblad H1 - isn't that a 645 that will take
both film and digital backs? Or the Mamiya 645? I guess
Do you know when this show does take place ?
Thibouille
-Message d'origine-
De : William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : samedi 17 juillet 2004 15:22
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : Re: Pentax is Dying
- Original Message -
From: Otis Wright
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying
Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying?
Unique? What about the Hasselblad H1 - isn't that a 645 that will take
both film and digital backs? Or the Mamiya 645? I guess if the rumored
new digital Pentax 645 is a dedicated
: Re: Pentax is Dying?
Well Gringo, given that nobody knows anything about it you make some
big statements.
My point about flexibility related to the Hasselblad and Mamiya systems
ability to take film and digital backs.
Antonio
On 17 Jul 2004, at 18:43, El Gringo wrote:
Antonio... It's more
- Original Message -
From: Thibouille
Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying
Do you know when this show does take place ?
I think the next one is April 1st, 2014
It's a joke.
William Robb
- Original Message -
From: Otis Wright
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying
And, when
Not being inmate with the finances of Leica and Co. cant comment on
whether they could have afforded to produce their own digital backs -
sounds like they must really be in the financial doldrums if true.
Personally it is a solution I like (apart from the cable).
Lets hope that the 645 DSLR at
I read the patent for the 118/2.4 too last year but it doesn't make sense
for Pentax ro release another expensive Limited lens consider the last one
(FA31/1.8) hasn't sold that well. This is especially true when people are
saving money for DSLRs and digital lenses now. 87/2.4 is just too close
The next installments of DSLR's from Pentax is perhaps the real thing
developed to sell in quantities.
It is possible considered Pentax used to be slow to upgrade their cameras. K
series, (the 1st bayonet K mount system), MX (fully mechanical high end body
when everyone was doing electronics),
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004, Alan Chan wrote:
saving money for DSLRs and digital lenses now. 87/2.4 is just too close to
FA77 and would be a mistake imho.
Why? Was it a mistake to have 50s at 1.4, 1.7 and 2.8 at the same
time?
I thought macros (like the 87 Paal is talking about) are a different
Why not an DA Limited series ?
-Message d'origine-
De : Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : samedi 17 juillet 2004 22:23
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : RE: Replacement for the FA 50 and 100 Macros? (Re: Pentax is Dying)
I read the patent for the 118/2.4 too last year
On 17/7/04, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, offered:
What's a Cotty? Did he convert to Canonism?
Fraid so.
Cheers,
Cotty
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Hi,
I've heard that there will be wonderful things announced, though not
necessarily shown, at the Ulan Bator show.
Mongolia? Is this a first? Sounds liike it might be...
Pentax announce hordes of new products there. The local people have
a real 'khan do' attitude.
I'm hoping to make it to
Why not an DA Limited series ?
I guess most DSLR buyers are looking for practical and affordable lenses,
instead of luxury lenses like the Limited which really aim for manual focus
buyers.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
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like i said in other posts, what they say, what they promised last year, and
what they are doing, seem to be three different things.
Herb...
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From: Otis Wright rusty.@att.net
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying
Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying
I think the *ist D main purpose is to provide Pentax with a DSLR (like the
MD-S function) and thereby signalize to the market that the company will be
a DSLR manufacturer and that the K
the baby D is so far the only concrete move in that direction that has been
formally announced.
Herb...
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From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: Pentax is Dying
This could mean the Baby D
Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 7:22 PM
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Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying?
On 17 Jul 2004 at 12:08, El Gringo wrote:
And Antonio, people do know things about it, for one, it's supposed to be
out in early 2005. For another, the things I've said
of
powerful hardware.
-el gringo
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From: David Miers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 8:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Pentax is Dying?
I mean, how many owners of the *istD wish that they could
put a roll of film in it as well?
I don't own one
Why not an DA Limited series ?
I guess most DSLR buyers are looking for practical and affordable lenses,
instead of luxury lenses like the Limited which really aim for manual focus
buyers.
Manual focus good - auto-focus bad.
Manual focus good - auto-focus bad.
Film-based SLR good - DSLR
Boy, do I have news for you.
--
El Gringo wrote:
will
be like putting diesel fuel in the space shuttle, a serious waste of
powerful hardware.
--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
Joseph Tainter checked his mailbox everyday for four months for lenses that
never came then wrote:
I am frustrated beyond description about being unable to buy the lenses I
want. I need them soon. Why is Pentax doing this?
I am puzzled that few on the list seem to think this is something worth
Another: Pentax is doing fine as a company but is beginning to
de-emphasize their photo division, or at least moving to a leaner photo
division..
Possible explanations that come to mind:
demand has suddenly skyrocked and Pentax can't ship fast enough (yeah
right)
labor troubles, political
Or Pentax is about to bring out a whole new line of lenses and cameras
and is depleting current stock in the run up...
A.
On 16 Jul 2004, at 15:37, Tom Reese wrote:
Joseph Tainter checked his mailbox everyday for four months for lenses
that
never came then wrote:
I am frustrated beyond
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Tom Reese wrote:
demand has suddenly skyrocked and Pentax can't ship fast enough (yeah right)
I think this might actually be the case for some of the popular lenses.
I ordered my FA 35/2 in Feb or March and it showed up in April.
During that time everyone showed it as
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