Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-06-10 Thread collinb
So if it's not exactly IR but like IR .. I'm taking a trip back in my mind to 24-pin dot matrix printers. "Near Letter Quality" Or, how to sell something by admitting that it's not quite what we think it needs to be. Next they'll be saying "Near IR Quality" or something like that. My 2

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-28 Thread Subash Jeyan
On Sat, 29 May 2021 07:23:41 +0530 Subash Jeyan wrote: > On Fri, 28 May 2021 16:04:05 -0400 > John wrote: > > > I wonder if you could emulate the IR filter similar to how the K3 > > emulates an anti-aliasing filter? (I think that AA filter emulation > > feature first appeared in the K-3) >

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-28 Thread Subash Jeyan
On Fri, 28 May 2021 16:04:05 -0400 John wrote: > I wonder if you could emulate the IR filter similar to how the K3 > emulates an anti-aliasing filter? (I think that AA filter emulation > feature first appeared in the K-3) k5iis... > I.E. remove the physical IR filter from the camera and have

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-28 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 28.05.21 um 22:04 schrieb John: I wonder if you could emulate the IR filter similar to how the K3 emulates an anti-aliasing filter? (I think that AA filter emulation feature first appeared in the K-3) The AA filter emulation is just a bit of carefully controlled blur. Camera sensors are

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-28 Thread John
I wonder if you could emulate the IR filter similar to how the K3 emulates an anti-aliasing filter? (I think that AA filter emulation feature first appeared in the K-3) I.E. remove the physical IR filter from the camera and have the firmware/software "filter" the IR for "normal" photography &

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Saw that before, didn't think it warranted posting, as it didn't contradict anything that I expected, and, well things like;  "Is the IR recording real?";  would be answered by one thing. Can it record IR images in RAW, (and show IR images in live view), with an 87b filter in front of the

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-27 Thread John Francis
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 02:50:28PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > On May 27, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Bill wrote: > >> > >> It's like trying to fake stereo out of a mono recording. > >> > > > > Infrared film is effectively making something out of nothing in that it is > > translating something

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-27 Thread Bill
On Thu., May 27, 2021, 3:50 p.m. Larry Colen, wrote: > > > > On May 27, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Bill wrote: > >> > >> It's like trying to fake stereo out of a mono recording. > >> > > > > Infrared film is effectively making something out of nothing in that it > is > > translating something we can't

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-27 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 27.05.21 um 23:15 schrieb Bill: Infrared film is effectively making something out of nothing in that it is translating something we can't see into something we can see. The infrared film 'sees' the IR light and turns it into something visible. The DSLR sensor doesn't. It just doesn't look

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-27 Thread Larry Colen
> On May 27, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Bill wrote: >> >> It's like trying to fake stereo out of a mono recording. >> > > Infrared film is effectively making something out of nothing in that it is > translating something we can't see into something we can see. > It's not a big leap to think that

RE: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-27 Thread rrvelar
Bill wrote: The interesting thing about computers that take pictures is that the people who write the software can program in the characteristic curve of, in this case, infrared film, and how it translates the invisible to the eye into something visible and have the camera emulate the result

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-27 Thread Bill
On Thu., May 27, 2021, 2:09 p.m. Ralf R Radermacher, wrote: > Am 27.05.21 um 18:22 schrieb Bill: > > > The interesting thing about computers that take pictures is that the > people > > who write the software can program in the characteristic curve of, in > this > > case, infrared film... > > You

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-27 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 27.05.21 um 18:22 schrieb Bill: The interesting thing about computers that take pictures is that the people who write the software can program in the characteristic curve of, in this case, infrared film... You can't make something out of nothing. Normal DSLRs have a strong anti-IR-filter

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-27 Thread Larry Colen
> On May 27, 2021, at 9:22 AM, Bill wrote: > > On Thu., May 27, 2021, 8:28 a.m. Toine, wrote: > >> Monochrome and IR mode??? That would be monochrome jpg? And what about >> IR mode, does it really record IR or just some silly IR look a like >> monochrome. If it records real IR I'm sold >> >

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-27 Thread Toine
Pfff... I guess your the smart person in this setup. And yes it's silly especially for a $2000 cam. Goodbye everyone -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-27 Thread Bill
On Thu., May 27, 2021, 8:28 a.m. Toine, wrote: > Monochrome and IR mode??? That would be monochrome jpg? And what about > IR mode, does it really record IR or just some silly IR look a like > monochrome. If it records real IR I'm sold > The interesting thing about computers that take pictures

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-27 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 27.05.21 um 16:28 schrieb Toine: Monochrome and IR mode??? That would be monochrome jpg? And what about IR mode, does it really record IR or just some silly IR look a like monochrome. If it records real IR I'm sold More like the famous wax crayon and finger paint filters, I suppose... Ralf

Re: Video review - K3iii

2021-05-27 Thread Toine
Monochrome and IR mode??? That would be monochrome jpg? And what about IR mode, does it really record IR or just some silly IR look a like monochrome. If it records real IR I'm sold On Thu, 27 May 2021 at 16:16, Paul Sorenson wrote: > >