From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/04 Fri PM 04:34:05 GMT
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Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's me. Or, rather, the eight
Couldn't make the sound work from this PC, but it seems like a
reversed Coca-cola Light Break...
Jostein
2008/4/4 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Although my new one might be Woolfhardisworthy.
Mike: Is this an adjective for that famous British Wolf
From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/03 Thu PM 10:30:00 GMT
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Although my new one might
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/03 Thu PM 10:53:58 GMT
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On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 05:30:00PM -0500, Christine Aguila wrote:
Apparently, a construction company
If you do a validation of a set of files that you know to be good and
generate a checksum, then run the validation again at another time ...
and the checksums match ... the files are good.
If this weren't true, there would be no point to file validation.
Godfrey
On Apr 3, 2008, at 2:05 PM,
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All the words I mentioned are names.
Mike: I know that--and I followed the link. I guess I forgot the ;-)--the
wink, wink, winkicon.
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From: Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/04 Fri PM 02:41:26 GMT
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Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All the words I mentioned
In a message dated 4/3/2008 2:11:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Godfrey,
My point of view is that you haven't validated that you can recover
your pictures from the data until you actually do such, or at least do
a sample. To say the bits and bites are all the same
On 4/4/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
I guess I forgot the ;-)--the
wink, wink, winkicon
You have an LX?
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's me. Or, rather, the eight days of two hours sleep. The five second
micronaps aren't working.
King Zombie
I'll send you the link to my online photo gallery--that'll put you right to
sleep ;-). Seriously, get some
of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
On 4/4/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
I guess I forgot the ;-)--the
wink, wink, winkicon
You have an LX?
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On 4/4/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
I'm sorry to say, I don't get the point of the question here. camera? car?
large-sized winkicon? having-a-brain-fart-in-Chicago, Christine
Soyou've never actually owned an LX then...? You've never actually
experienced that, ahhh,
On Apr 4, 2008, at 8:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have storage paranoia like you do. Probably the best thing to do
is, back
up to CDs/DVDs, two copies, keep on hard disk. Then go in in one
to three
months or so and see if one can get photos off CDs/DVDs.
In the past week or two
On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
he feeling that everything is alright with the world, nothing is too
much?
E...
Dave :-)
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Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
On 4/4/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
I guess I forgot the ;-)--the
wink, wink, winkicon
You have an LX?
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In a message dated 4/4/2008 10:01:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Usually, for me, if a disc is bad, it is bad from the beginning.
That's why you should *always* run a verification/validation pass
immediately after burning a CD/DVD, and make at least two
Well, actually, Godfrey, not sure how to do a
verification/validation pass.
And you can't help, as you're Mac and I am PC.
Marnie aka Doe :-)
A read-after-write check should be built into the hardware (albeit
switchable from the operating system).
Bob
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Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
Well, actually, Godfrey, not sure how to do a verification/validation pass.
And you can't help, as you're Mac and I am PC.
I know Nero can be told to verify the data
On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:22:33 +0100
Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, actually, Godfrey, not sure how to do a
verification/validation pass.
And you can't help, as you're Mac and I am PC.
Marnie aka Doe :-)
well both are PC's really. I add another confusion as i run Ubuntu
On Apr 4, 2008, at 13:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, actually, Godfrey, not sure how to do a verification/
validation pass.
And you can't help, as you're Mac and I am PC.
Marnie aka Doe :-)
Marnie -
It really depends upon what you're using to run your backups to disc.
But MOST
On Apr 4, 2008, at 14:52, Bran Everseeking wrote:
I burn 2 dvds and two sets of CDs as backup each month. One is a
straight copy of the originals and edits and the other is a compressed
file copy. I also keep copies on my machine and an hidden directory
on
my son's machine ( he has all
On Apr 4, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:
Well, actually, Godfrey, not sure how to do a verification/
validation pass.
And you can't help, as you're Mac and I am PC.
It really depends upon what you're using to run your backups to disc.
But MOST software has an option to
Don't use the built in software in XP use something like Nero which will
automatically verify the burn, if you ask it to.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 4/4/2008 10:01:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Usually, for me, if a disc is bad, it is bad
In my blissful ignorance, I've always done the verify. I guess that's because
I've always used either the apple sofware or toast. Now I use Toast 9
exclusively. It's excellent. In addition to doing he verify, it automatically
will pick the best write speed if you allow it that option. On my
Charles Robinson wrote:
It really depends upon what you're using to run your backups to disc.
But MOST software has an option to immediately do a verify/compare
between your source files and the burned disc immediately after the
disc is written.
Having been burned before, I never
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Subject: Re: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
In my blissful ignorance, I've always done the verify. I guess that's because
I've always used
either the apple sofware or toast. Now I use Toast 9 exclusively. It's
On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:00:59 -0500
Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is your intent to actually COMPRESS files (which, if they're JPEG
files, won't really happen) or to just park them inside of some
larger file structure which has error-checking and such?
-Charles
the latter.
Thanks for all the answers. I think checksums or byte comparisons are best,
but I will look into what my software offers. Actually, never done any
verification, so anything will probably be better than nothing.
Marnie aka Doe :-)
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Subject: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Most of my film scans are stored on CDs, and they still read well.
Keep your fingers crossed.
I've had serious trouble with a whole bunch of CDRs containing my
back-ups of film scan data
From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/03 Thu AM 08:19:17 GMT
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At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation
last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs
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iterative
Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
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At 04:47 PM 3/04/2008, Cotty wrote:
On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
iterative
Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
I think it's Norwegian for Boring as bat s#!t
Cheers,
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
iterative
Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
You've got
Just try again...
On 4/3/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
iterative
Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
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Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
Reminds me of the good old days of German coastal radio station
Norddeich Radio. One of their routine messages was that owing to
severe weather the pilotage in the Elbe and Weser estuary had been
*temporarily*
lol yeah... It needs practice... :-)
Jostein
2008/4/3, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Just try again...
On 4/3/08, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
iterative
Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
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, a continuous and iterative process.
Jostein
2008/4/3, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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Subject: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Most of my film scans are stored on CDs, and they still
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At the agency where I work, we received roughly a TB of documentation
last year. Loads of DVDs and CDs.
We've had important documentation
2008/4/3, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
iterative
Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
Ach, that's easier than aperture. :-)
Recently sorted out ascertain, but I'm still struggling with superfluous.
The best surprise yet, though, was
From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/04/03 Thu PM 02:01:44 GMT
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2008/4/3, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 3/4/08, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:
iterative
Holy
iterative
Holy mackerel, I wish I could say that word.
Ach, that's easier than aperture. :-)
Recently sorted out ascertain, but I'm still struggling
with superfluous.
The best surprise yet, though, was Southwark. :-)
Cheers,
Jostein
I bet they taught you the tourist
Put your images into industry-standard formats (TIFF, JPEG, DNG) and
archive the files. Upgrade the storage medium as the medium is
improved by copying the files. Hard drives are the current standard
storage medium.
These formats will be around for many many years. You don't have to
worry
2008/4/3, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I bet they taught you the tourist pronunciation, didn't they! Ha ha -
it gets them every time. I love it when tourists ask me how to find
their way to 'Suvverk' and 'Lester Square'. I never get tired of that
joke.
If you really want to impress the locals
The backup heaven is Restore. :-)
Jostein
2008/4/3, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I understand the need for archival storage and try to do some.
My main fear is the amount of data I manipulate now and will in the future.
With a large amounts of data, checking the conditions of the back-up
I understand the need for archival storage and try to do some.
My main fear is the amount of data I manipulate now and will in the future.
With a large amounts of data, checking the conditions of the back-up
becomes an issue.
Some of us have encountered problems where the backup hasn't worked
for
I run a drive/file system validation utility about once every month
or two on my archives. It's too much work to do that frequently on
the small capacity media like CD and DVD ... loading and unloading
200-300 of these volumes is days of tedious work ... so I concentrate
doing that for the
I run a drive/file system validation utility about once every month
or two on my archives. It's too much work to do that frequently on
the small capacity media like CD and DVD ... loading and unloading
200-300 of these volumes is days of tedious work ... so I concentrate
doing that for the
Well my point was that I burned some perfectly good CDs on an HP 2100
burner under Win98. I moved that burner to a machine running Win2K,
those CDs were unreadable. They weren't that important so I put them
aside to try some data recovery at a later time. I acquired a DVD
burner, that was
I prefer redundant information.
AlunFoto wrote:
2008/4/3, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I bet they taught you the tourist pronunciation, didn't they! Ha ha -
it gets them every time. I love it when tourists ask me how to find
their way to 'Suvverk' and 'Lester Square'. I never get tired of
Bob Sullivan wrote:
My point of view is that you haven't validated that you can recover
your pictures from the data until you actually do such, or at least do
a sample. To say the bits and bites are all the same implies no other
glitches in the process.
No doubt. The number one most
AlunFoto wrote:
Recently sorted out ascertain, but I'm still struggling with superfluous.
Superfluous is properly pronounced extra. :-)
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Temporarily... An awful word to pronounce for us Germans. Usually
sounded as if someone had just fed them a glowing hot potatoe. :-))
vorübergehend ... hmmm, I see what you mean. :-)
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Godfrey,
My point of view is that you haven't validated that you can recover
your pictures from the data until you actually do such, or at least do
a sample. To say the bits and bites are all the same implies no other
glitches in the process.
Regards, Bob S.
On 4/3/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL
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Although my new one might be Woolfhardisworthy.
Mike: Is this an adjective for that famous British Wolf whistle or Wolf
call British construction workers are famous for?--Heard a funny BBC radio
story on the way to work
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Although my new one might be Woolfhardisworthy.
Mike: Is this an adjective for that famous British Wolf
whistle or Wolf
call British construction workers are famous for?--Heard a
funny BBC radio
story on the way to work today. Apparently, a
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 05:30:00PM -0500, Christine Aguila wrote:
Apparently, a construction company by the
name of Wimbley (sp?) has banned the famous Wolf whistle.
Wimpey, at a guess.
(Often jokingly regarded as an acronym for We Import More Paddies
Every Year - many of the construction
lol!!! Cheers, Christine
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I'm not at all surprised that the construction workers are in broad
agreement with such a policy - they are terribly enlightened over
here, as this documentary proves:
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Wimpey, at a guess.
yes, I think that was the name! Cheers, Christine
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Most of my film scans are stored on CDs, and they still read well.
Keep your fingers crossed.
I've had serious trouble with a whole bunch of CDRs containing my
back-ups of film scan data. They were stored in specially made CD paper
jackets, the kind commonly used in
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From: Ralf R. Radermacher
Subject: Reliabilty of CD storage - was: Lightroom 2.0 beta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Most of my film scans are stored on CDs, and they still read well.
Keep your fingers crossed.
I've had serious trouble with a whole bunch of CDRs
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