Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-16 Thread Cotty
You're all a bunch of goddam communist preverts! On 15/12/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I am *not* a communist! Well, that's two of us for the preverts. Any more? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: You're all a bunch of goddam communist preverts! On 15/12/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I am *not* a communist! Well, that's two of us for the preverts. Any more? Do you know the definition of pervert in North Carolina? Someone who likes sex more than basketball.

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-16 Thread P. J. Alling
I take exception to that, communist? Hardly. Cotty wrote: Holy mackerel that sucker moves about a lot! Which, the camera or the sensor? ]'-) And if you were referring to a third alternative, we don't want to know... You're all a bunch of goddam communist

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
Do you know the definition of pervert in North Carolina? Someone who likes sex more than basketball. Same for Indiana. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SR Weirdness Cotty wrote: You're all a bunch of goddam communist preverts

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, J and K Messervy wrote: I just tested my camera and more often than not, the sensor does not move. This backs up my experience when trying out SR in photos. I got the impression it wasn't working much of the time. Turns out it isn't. :( Make sure that for the testing,

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread J and K Messervy
Yes, I used manual mode and sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. - Original Message - From: Lawrence Kwan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 7:45 PM Subject: Re: SR Weirdness On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, J and K Messervy wrote: I

Re: Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread John Whittingham
Thinking about this more: SR is probably only good for up to 1.5 seconds or so. After that, there's little point to the sensor continuing to move around, attempting to stabilize. The engineers probably just had it lock to a certain point after that specified time. Will it not re-activate

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
If it takes good pictures when you don't bounce it around, it's probably fine. I think I'll pass on torture testing mine. Paul On Dec 14, 2006, at 11:43 PM, Peter Loveday wrote: Interesting, after the last big movement it just sort of goes I'm over it, I'll just rest here in the corner for a

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread mike wilson
From: Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/12/15 Fri AM 04:43:47 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: SR Weirdness Interesting, after the last big movement it just sort of goes I'm over it, I'll just rest here in the corner for a bit. Yeah, I wonder

Re: SR Weirdness (Mine isn't working?)

2006-12-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
SR doesn't work on B setting, because the camera thinks you're smart enough to use a tripod. Paul On Dec 15, 2006, at 12:31 AM, Mike Hamilton wrote: That's the second video that I've seen of the SR working. The sensor moves around quite visibly. I just took a look at my own K10D, Bulb

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Rick Womer
Peter, What is normal about an 8-second handheld exposure??? This sort of thing is what clutters the dpreview forum! Rick --- Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still not sure if I should be returning it or if this is 'normal'. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I tend to agree. I'm in the camp that buys a camera to take pictures with, not calculate theoretics or reverse engineer. ;-) G On Dec 15, 2006, at 3:14 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: If it takes good pictures when you don't bounce it around, it's probably fine. I think I'll pass on torture

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
SR will do very little to sharpen an 8 second hand-held shot imo. Godfrey On Dec 15, 2006, at 6:21 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Peter, What is normal about an 8-second handheld exposure??? This sort of thing is what clutters the dpreview forum! Rick --- Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Scott Loveless
You must be new here. g On 12/15/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tend to agree. I'm in the camp that buys a camera to take pictures with, not calculate theoretics or reverse engineer. ;-) G On Dec 15, 2006, at 3:14 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: If it takes good pictures when

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
LOL I was just testing the image stabilization. Seems to me that I can get a pretty darn sharp picture with the DA21mm lens at about a half second exposure time when it's enabled. I could post a pair of example shots ... but why bother? Since someone will undoubtedly ask to see it, here ya

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I'm in the camp that buys a camera to take pictures with, not calculate theoretics or reverse engineer. Heretic! BURN 'IM! ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Cory Papenfuss
I'm in the camp that buys a camera to take pictures with, not calculate theoretics or reverse engineer. Pffft! Wuss ;-) -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * *

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/12/06, Peter Loveday, discombobulated, unleashed: I've done a quick video (sorry about the dodgy quality) to illustrate the sensor popping to a corner and locking issue I'm seeing in SR. http://www.users.on.net/~ploveday/SRTest.mov (its about 5MB) Holy mackerel that sucker moves about a

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 15, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Cotty wrote: I've done a quick video (sorry about the dodgy quality) to illustrate the sensor popping to a corner and locking issue I'm seeing in SR. http://www.users.on.net/~ploveday/SRTest.mov (its about 5MB) Holy mackerel that sucker moves about a lot!

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Dec 15, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Cotty wrote: Holy mackerel that sucker moves about a lot! Which, the camera or the sensor? ]'-) And if you were referring to a third alternative, we don't want to know... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Cotty
Holy mackerel that sucker moves about a lot! Which, the camera or the sensor? ]'-) And if you were referring to a third alternative, we don't want to know... You're all a bunch of goddam communist preverts! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: Holy mackerel that sucker moves about a lot! Which, the camera or the sensor? ]'-) And if you were referring to a third alternative, we don't want to know... You're all a bunch of goddam communist preverts! I am *not* a communist! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Dec 15, 2006, at 3:18 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Holy mackerel that sucker moves about a lot! Which, the camera or the sensor? ]'-) And if you were referring to a third alternative, we don't want to know... You're all a bunch of goddam communist preverts! I am *not* a communist! Would

SR Weirdness

2006-12-14 Thread Peter Loveday
I've done a quick video (sorry about the dodgy quality) to illustrate the sensor popping to a corner and locking issue I'm seeing in SR. http://www.users.on.net/~ploveday/SRTest.mov (its about 5MB) The movement of the camera looks a little exagerated in this video.. I'm not actually shaking

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 15/12/06, Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've done a quick video (sorry about the dodgy quality) to illustrate the sensor popping to a corner and locking issue I'm seeing in SR. http://www.users.on.net/~ploveday/SRTest.mov (its about 5MB) The movement of the camera looks a little

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-14 Thread Peter Loveday
Interesting, after the last big movement it just sort of goes I'm over it, I'll just rest here in the corner for a bit. Yeah, I wonder if that is it... basically decides its too damn bumpy. Still, I really would expect it to go to the centre, even if it made such an choice. Or perhaps if it

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 15/12/06, Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I wonder if that is it... basically decides its too damn bumpy. Still, I really would expect it to go to the centre, even if it made such an choice. Or perhaps if it hits the stop, it stays there to protect itself? I dunno, its odd.

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If you're shaking the camera that forcibly when making an exposure, you have more problems than the fact that the SR decides to take a rest. ;-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: SR Weirdness (Mine isn't working?)

2006-12-14 Thread Mike Hamilton
That's the second video that I've seen of the SR working. The sensor moves around quite visibly. I just took a look at my own K10D, Bulb setting, no lens mounted, and there is *no* sensor movement at all! I hear a gentle buzzing, just like Peter, but I can't see sensor movement.

Re: SR Weirdness (Mine isn't working?)

2006-12-14 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 15/12/06, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the second video that I've seen of the SR working. The sensor moves around quite visibly. I just took a look at my own K10D, Bulb setting, no lens mounted, and there is *no* sensor movement at all! I hear a gentle buzzing, just like

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-14 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 12/14/06, Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll see the sensor moving quite happily (its kinda cool to watch if you've not done so already), then about 2/3rds of the way through the sensor pops to the lower corner, then never moves again... I'd be interested to know if anyone else

Re: Re: SR Weirdness (Mine isn't working?)

2006-12-14 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 12/14/06, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15/12/06, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the second video that I've seen of the SR working. The sensor moves around quite visibly. I just took a look at my own K10D, Bulb setting, no lens mounted, and there is

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-14 Thread J and K Messervy
digital camera. James - Original Message - From: Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:12 PM Subject: SR Weirdness I've done a quick video (sorry about the dodgy quality) to illustrate the sensor popping to a corner

Re: Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-14 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 12/14/06, Mike Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/14/06, Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll see the sensor moving quite happily (its kinda cool to watch if you've not done so already), then about 2/3rds of the way through the sensor pops to the lower corner, then never

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-14 Thread Peter Loveday
Thinking about this more: SR is probably only good for up to 1.5 seconds or so. After that, there's little point to the sensor continuing to move around, attempting to stabilize. The engineers probably just had it lock to a certain point after that specified time. Nah, its not time based,

Re: SR Weirdness

2006-12-14 Thread Peter Loveday
I'll have a play with mine later but I'm really not fussed about have the sensor exposed to the elements if it's not really necessary so there won't be any videos. Return to the centre makes sense unless it's done that way in an effort to effectively anchor the sensor in order to prevent