Re: Semi-OT Photoshop Rant!

2011-02-11 Thread Igor Roshchin
Thu Feb 10 23:58:33 CST 2011 mike wilson wrote: > On 10/02/2011 15:06, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > > That's great! > > > > That's basically what they say in the books about > > scientific/engineering > > writing. The very first thing a writer has to recognize are these > > three factors: audience,

Re: Semi-OT Photoshop Rant!

2011-02-10 Thread mike wilson
On 10/02/2011 15:06, Igor Roshchin wrote: That's great! That's basically what they say in the books about scientific/engineering writing. The very first thing a writer has to recognize are these three factors: audience, purpose, and occasion. The first, audience, defines "what do they know?", "

Re: Semi-OT Photoshop Rant!

2011-02-10 Thread Igor Roshchin
Wed Feb 9 12:23:34 CST 2011 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Doug Franklin > wrote: > >> ... I want to know why or under what circumstances I might wish to use a > >> particular tool or technique. ... > > > > Yep. It's a really common problem with technical documentati

Re: Semi-OT Photoshop Rant!

2011-02-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: >> ... I want to know why or under what circumstances I might wish to use a >> particular tool or technique. ... > > Yep.  It's a really common problem with technical documentation.  They > (usually) tell you 'what' and 'how'.  Rarely to they gi

Re: Semi-OT Photoshop Rant!

2011-02-09 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2011-02-09 9:18, Tom C wrote: I also I detest the $75 books that are 2" thick that purport to teach one how to do something, yet are little more than screen shots of what the author did. Totally useless. I want to know why or under what circumstances I might wish to use a particular tool or t

RE: Semi-OT Photoshop Rant!

2011-02-09 Thread Tom C
I also detest the $75 books that are 2" thick that purport to teach one how to do something, yet are little more than screen shots of what the author did. Totally useless. I want to know why or under what circumstances I might wish to use a particular tool or technique. Many of them are totally su

Re: Semi-OT Photoshop Rant!

2011-02-09 Thread Tom C
I also I detest the $75 books that are 2" thick that purport to teach one how to do something, yet are little more than screen shots of what the author did. Totally useless. I want to know why or under what circumstances I might wish to use a particular tool or technique. Many of them are totally

Re: Semi-OT Photoshop RANT!

2011-02-08 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 8, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> On Feb 8, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >>> What have you found that's un-shitty? I could use one for each of PS CS5 >>> and LR. >> >> I just post my question to PDML a

Re: Semi-OT Photoshop RANT!

2011-02-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Feb 8, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > >> What have you found that's un-shitty?  I could use one for each of PS CS5 >> and LR. > > I just post my question to PDML and Godfrey, the font of all adobe knowledge, > usually answers it

RE: Semi-OT Photoshop RANT!

2011-02-08 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Bob W" they do something similar, though not quite as bad, with Lightroom. It's to force you into buying a set of shitty books until you find one that's useful. B I've got the books, but they didn't answer the *simple* question ... "I created a signature brush in Photoshop CS3. I have

Re: Semi-OT Photoshop RANT!

2011-02-08 Thread Larry Colen
On Feb 8, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > What have you found that's un-shitty? I could use one for each of PS CS5 and > LR. I just post my question to PDML and Godfrey, the font of all adobe knowledge, usually answers it fairly promptly. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i

RE: Semi-OT Photoshop RANT!

2011-02-08 Thread Bob W
I don't use Photoshop, but when I did I used Evening's book, and another one I can't remember which was about colour management based on numbers, and therefore useful to a colour-blind person like me. For Lightroom I have this: http://www.amazon.com/Photoshop-Lightroom-Workbook-Workflow-Workslow/

Re: Semi-OT Photoshop RANT!

2011-02-08 Thread Bruce Walker
What have you found that's un-shitty? I could use one for each of PS CS5 and LR. I have yet to find an actual "reference" myself. But for photo task-oriented stuff I'm pretty happy with two: Adobe PS CS4 for Photographers, Martin Evening The Creative Digital Darkroom, Katrin Eismann & Sean D

RE: Semi-OT Photoshop RANT!

2011-02-08 Thread Bob W
they do something similar, though not quite as bad, with Lightroom. It's to force you into buying a set of shitty books until you find one that's useful. B > "Help" in CS5 *SUCKS*. There is no help file. You have to download a > new updated version of Adobe Air every time you need to consult hel

Semi-OT Photoshop RANT!

2011-02-08 Thread John Sessoms
"Help" in CS5 *SUCKS*. There is no help file. You have to download a new updated version of Adobe Air every time you need to consult help. And then it doesn't even have a help file, it's just a new proprietary web browser specific to some Adobe product. And what it turns up are goddamn VIDEO