Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-08-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 7/29/2010 6:09 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: What I was saying was not so much a series of statements leading to a conclusion as a summary of my use and insight into using scanners. Information, discussion perhaps, not really argument in this literal sense. Argument, when used in the context

RE: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-29 Thread John Coyle
: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Slide copier for Pentax On 2010-07-28 5:41, Boris Liberman wrote: I used argument as a synonym to reasoning... In no way did I imply

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-29 Thread John Sessoms
From: Brian Walters On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:10 -0400, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:30 -0400, Doug Franklin many Americans would use the word discussion, or maybe something else. At least in the US, the word argument has overtones

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-29 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:24 -0400, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Brian Walters On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:10 -0400, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:30 -0400, Doug Franklin many Americans would use the word

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-29 Thread Toralf Lund
Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:30 -0400, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: On 2010-07-28 5:41, Boris Liberman wrote: I used argument as a synonym to reasoning... In no way did I imply an argument as in: a reason given in proof or rebuttal or in discourse

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-29 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jul 29, 2010, at 8:08, Toralf Lund wrote: Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:30 -0400, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: On 2010-07-28 5:41, Boris Liberman wrote: I used argument as a synonym to reasoning... In no way did I imply an argument as in: a

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
What I was saying was not so much a series of statements leading to a conclusion as a summary of my use and insight into using scanners. Information, discussion perhaps, not really argument in this literal sense. Argument, when used in the context of talking about a discussion, nearly always

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-28 Thread Boris Liberman
On 7/27/2010 8:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I didn't think it was an argument, Boris. Just information. From Merriam Webster on the web: argument: a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to a conclusion. I used argument as a synonym to reasoning... In no way did I imply

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-28 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2010-07-28 5:41, Boris Liberman wrote: I used argument as a synonym to reasoning... In no way did I imply an argument as in: a reason given in proof or rebuttal or in discourse intended to persuade. All quotes of course are from the same Merriam Webster page. The more English language I

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-28 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:30 -0400, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: On 2010-07-28 5:41, Boris Liberman wrote: I used argument as a synonym to reasoning... In no way did I imply an argument as in: a reason given in proof or rebuttal or in discourse intended to persuade. All

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:30 -0400, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: On 2010-07-28 5:41, Boris Liberman wrote: (snip) many Americans would use the word discussion, or maybe something else. At least in the US, the word argument has overtones of

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-28 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:10 -0400, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Brian Walters wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:30 -0400, Doug Franklin many Americans would use the word discussion, or maybe something else. At least in the US, the word argument has overtones of disagreement, though

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-27 Thread Boris Liberman
On 7/27/2010 4:51 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: However, with today's 10-14 Mpixel DSLRs and a suitable setup, you can achieve approximately the same image resolution as a 4000 ppi scanner with better dmax from 35mm film. To add to Godfrey's good argument here, I am thinking that there are more

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I didn't think it was an argument, Boris. Just information. - Scanners which have IR-based dust and scratch reduction/removal features can automate dust removal much more easily than DSLR capture can, although the spotting tools in LR and the contextual-aware cloning tools in PS CS5 go a long way

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-27 Thread Toralf Lund
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:34 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I get a RAW file using vuescan on my Epson 3200. Or, I assume, with any other scanner. Paul A VueScan raw file is different from a DSLR raw file. It's essentially a linear gamma RGB

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-27 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote: ...VueScan raw file is different from a DSLR raw file. ... You can also write in DNG format these days, though, and feed the file into standard raw converters. I would assume there isn't much you can't do with these files

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-27 Thread Igor Roshchin
Boris, If I will buy, I'll definitely share my experience. It is not the highest priority on my to do list, I just have learned about that possibility which made me thinking... :-) .. and I thought I might hear helpful information from others, while sharing this finding with PDMLers. And yes,

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-27 Thread P N Stenquist
On Jul 27, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I didn't think it was an argument, Boris. Just information. Yes. And good information. - Scanners which have IR-based dust and scratch reduction/removal features can automate dust removal much more easily than DSLR capture can, although

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28/07/2010, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: The .DNG files it outputs are an encapsulation of TIFF RGB files and are very editable in Camera Raw; they're not actually raw files at all, simply a TIFF using the ability of DNG to encapsulate them and provide more functionality.

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-27 Thread Toralf Lund
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Toralf Lund tor...@toralf.net wrote: ...VueScan raw file is different from a DSLR raw file. ... You can also write in DNG format these days, though, and feed the file into standard raw converters. I would assume there isn't

Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-26 Thread Igor Roshchin
I wonder if anybody has used this combination: http://www.amazon.com/Opteka-Copier-Pentax-Digital-Camera/dp/B0017WCKTE and http://www.amazon.com/Slide-Negative-Carrier-Opteka-Copiers/dp/B0011N43H6/ ? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I haven't used those products but presuming the hold the film or slide flat, and are decent resolution, they should do the job well. Slides and bw negs are relatively easy to work with but color negs take some work to invert well due to the crossover masking. I built custom camera calibration

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-26 Thread Northeast Media
standard but for digitising family snapshots they are good and fast. Phil - Original Message - From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org To: PDML@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 6:52 AM Subject: Slide copier for Pentax I wonder if anybody has used this combination: http

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-26 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I haven't used those products but presuming the hold the film or slide flat, and are decent resolution, they should do the job well. Slides and bw negs are relatively easy to work with but color negs take some work to invert well due to the crossover masking. I built

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-26 Thread Rick Womer
://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Northeast Media northeastme...@bigpond.com wrote: From: Northeast Media northeastme...@bigpond.com Subject: Re: Slide copier for Pentax To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 6:37 PM I have a a similar device

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-26 Thread paul stenquist
...@bigpond.com Subject: Re: Slide copier for Pentax To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 6:37 PM I have a a similar device but not an Opteka for duplicating slides.. It is reasoanble but my biggest problem is the quality of my old slides - I guess we all have

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:34 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I get a RAW file using vuescan on my Epson 3200. Or, I assume, with any other scanner. Paul A VueScan raw file is different from a DSLR raw file. It's essentially a linear gamma RGB TIFF file without VueScan's

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-26 Thread paul stenquist
On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:34 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I get a RAW file using vuescan on my Epson 3200. Or, I assume, with any other scanner. Paul A VueScan raw file is different from a DSLR raw file. It's

Re: Slide copier for Pentax

2010-07-26 Thread Boris Liberman
Igor, if you decide to buy one and use it, I'd sure like you to write a word or two on the list as to how it went... Boris On 7/26/2010 11:52 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I wonder if anybody has used this combination: http://www.amazon.com/Opteka-Copier-Pentax-Digital-Camera/dp/B0017WCKTE and