Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-12 Thread steve harley
on 2013-10-06 11:26 Mark Roberts wrote ...but it sells, so I need to be able to teach it to my students. Hence this experiment. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dd06804-hdr.htm OMG that's goorjus! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-12 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting steve harley p...@paper-ape.com: on 2013-10-06 11:26 Mark Roberts wrote ...but it sells, so I need to be able to teach it to my students. Hence this experiment. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dd06804-hdr.htm OMG that's goorjus! Sounds like you're channelling Dick Solomon

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-08 Thread Mark Roberts
For the curious, here's the non-HDR version of my Milan street scene (just basic Lightroom processing): http://www.robertstech.com/temp/112-7dd06804.jpg -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-08 Thread Bruce Walker
Not bad, but it really needs to be amped up. ;-) I think what this really shows is you need to start with a great shot no matter what you do with it afterward. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: For the curious, here's the non-HDR version of my

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-08 Thread P.J. Alling
Metal flake paint on velvet was popular back in the day as well. I hate to admit but I own a small picture in that medium. I even like it but it's subdued for the genre. On 10/6/2013 1:33 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Pretty clear why this kind of image sells; it's very eye-catching. And you

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-08 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I liked the HDR version a bit better. You definitely did not overdo it. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: For the curious, here's the non-HDR version of my Milan street scene (just basic

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-08 Thread Attila Boros
Finally I could access the page. Overall I like the HDR version better (not overdone at all), but prefer the light streaks in the non-HDR. -- Attila On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I liked the HDR version a bit better. You definitely did not

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-08 Thread P.J. Alling
On 10/7/2013 1:51 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 04:03:39PM +1100, Philip Northeast wrote: Unfortunately I managed to access the image from Oz, and yes it is way over the top. A good example of what not to do. But he did what he shouldn't very well. That sounds like

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-08 Thread Eactivist
Well, I'll be different and say I like this one better. The other looked unreal to me. BUT... I would do some recovery in the shadows. Somewhere between this one and the other one. HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 10/8/2013 1:05:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-07 Thread Eactivist
Well, since you hate it, what are we supposed to say? Huh, not my kind of thing either. Hey, look, you even have star lights! Whee! Heh. Marnie aka Doe ;-) Nice composition? Can say that. In a message dated 10/6/2013 10:26:36 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, postmas...@robertstech.com writes:

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-07 Thread Darren Addy
Contrived and unnatural, but in a Thomas Kinkade kind of style. Which, perhaps, explains the commercial appeal. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:42 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Well, since you hate it, what are we supposed to say? Huh, not my kind of thing either. Hey, look, you even have star

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-07 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: ...but it sells, so I need to be able to teach it to my students. Hence this experiment. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dd06804-hdr.htm It's not my thing either - but I've seen lots of others that I hate more... Cheers Brian

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-07 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Yikes! Mark, I hope you also tell your students that (a) you hate it too and (b) it is a good example of what good photographers (like you) don't do and don't need to do. Please show image before you mangled it ann On 10/7/2013 08:08, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts

The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-06 Thread Mark Roberts
...but it sells, so I need to be able to teach it to my students. Hence this experiment. http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dd06804-hdr.htm Pseudo-HDR treatment (it's tone mapped from a single exposure). Lots of tweaking with masks, selective noise reduction and other tricks to make look more like

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-06 Thread Bruce Walker
Pretty clear why this kind of image sells; it's very eye-catching. And you managed to do it without that kind of crinkly edges look. After producing this, do you feel dirty now? ;-) On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: ...but it sells, so I need to be

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: Pretty clear why this kind of image sells; it's very eye-catching. And you managed to do it without that kind of crinkly edges look. After producing this, do you feel dirty now? ;-) We'll see. I'm going to put it in my NAPP portfolio because they seem to love

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-06 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bruce Walker wrote: Pretty clear why this kind of image sells; it's very eye-catching. And you managed to do it without that kind of crinkly edges look. After producing this, do you feel dirty now? ;-) We'll see.

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-06 Thread Attila Boros
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dd06804-hdr.htm Ooops... Sorry, you are not permitted to access this material. This is usually because of excessive hacking/spaming/probes from your general IP space. If you wish to

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-06 Thread Bruce
You may hate it but you have done an effective job with it. Very interesting scene. -- Bruce -- Sent from Sony Tablet S Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: ...but it sells, so I need to be able to teach it to my students. Hence this experiment.

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-06 Thread Alastair Robertson
I would look except that you rather isolationist policy of blocking foreign IP addresses prevents from me from doing so - do you really have to be so paranoid? Alastair On 7 October 2013 16:57, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: You may hate it but you have done an effective job with it.

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-06 Thread Philip Northeast
Unfortunately I managed to access the image from Oz, and yes it is way over the top. A good example of what not to do. Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au On 7/10/13 3:56 PM, Alastair Robertson wrote: I would look except that you rather isolationist policy of blocking foreign IP

Re: The kind of HDR I hate

2013-10-06 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 04:03:39PM +1100, Philip Northeast wrote: Unfortunately I managed to access the image from Oz, and yes it is way over the top. A good example of what not to do. But he did what he shouldn't very well. Philip Northeast www.aviewfinderdarkly.com.au On