Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-09 Thread Toralf Lund
Cotty wrote: On 8/8/05, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes, that's what I really want, but it won't just fit on any old camera, right? Unless you really bring out the tools... Has anyone tried that? I mean, modify other bodies so that the LX viewfinders will fit. Har!!!

Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Toralf Lund
I've been wondering if there is there is any way I might be able to actually see what I'm doing if I want to shoot from the hip with one of my Pentax cameras. Are there any good options for this, besides getting an LX and a proper waist-level finder? I'm not necessarily looking for a finder

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Toralf Lund a écrit : I've been wondering if there is there is any way I might be able to actually see what I'm doing if I want to shoot from the hip with one of my Pentax cameras. Are there any good options for this, besides getting an LX and a proper waist-level finder? I'm not

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/8/05, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: I've been wondering if there is there is any way I might be able to actually see what I'm doing if I want to shoot from the hip with one of my Pentax cameras. Are there any good options for this, besides getting an LX and a proper waist-level

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/8/05, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: I've been wondering if there is there is any way I might be able to actually see what I'm doing if I want to shoot from the hip with one of my Pentax cameras. Are there any good options for this, besides getting an LX and a proper waist-level

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me you want a waist-level finder, plain and simple. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/focusing/viewfinders/FF-1.jpg Nah. One of THESE: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060701zigview_lcd.asp -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread P. J. Alling
A bit pricey... http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060701zigview_lcd.asp Toralf Lund wrote: I've been wondering if there is there is any way I might be able to actually see what I'm doing if I want to shoot from the hip with one of my Pentax cameras. Are there any good options for this,

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Glen
At 12:17 PM 8/8/2005, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me you want a waist-level finder, plain and simple. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/focusing/viewfinders/FF-1.jpg Nah. One of THESE: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060701zigview_lcd.asp I had a friend who

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/8/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: A bit pricey... http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060701zigview_lcd.asp COOL. I'd forgotten about this. That would be ideal for you Torulf. Cor, I fancy one of them myself Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places,

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Glen wrote: At 12:17 PM 8/8/2005, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me you want a waist-level finder, plain and simple. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/focusing/viewfinders/FF-1.jpg Nah. One of THESE: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060701zigview_lcd.asp

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Vic Mortelmans
I have been thinking about the same. Building a finder that mounts on the flash shoe and that you can look into from above from a distance of at least 30cm and see (more or less) what's in scope of the camera. The conclusion was that optically at least a mirror and a lens are needed, but I

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread P. J. Alling
P. J. Alling wrote: Glen wrote: At 12:17 PM 8/8/2005, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me you want a waist-level finder, plain and simple. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/focusing/viewfinders/FF-1.jpg Nah. One of THESE:

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I've never seen a waist level finder for a rangefinder, and I've been looking for a couple of years. Shel [Original Message] From: Vic Mortelmans In the rangefinder world there are lots of flash shoe mountable viewfinders around, to accomodate lenses of focal lengths not supported by

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/8/05, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Nah. One of THESE: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060701zigview_lcd.asp Here's a user review: http://www.kickstartnews.com/reviews/hardware/ zigview_digital_angle_viewfinder.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People,

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I decided to check again, and discovered that Leica made three such waist level finders.. I guess my searching technique has improved a bit, or maybe some new pages have been posted to the web. However, I've yet to actually see such a finder. Shel [Original Message] From: Shel Belinkoff

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The Zigview LCD that has been talked about in this thread might work, with a custom adapter. Godfrey On Aug 8, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I decided to check again, and discovered that Leica made three such waist level finders.. I guess my searching technique has improved a

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Looks like a handy gizmo. I'm bookmarking Intro2020... :-) Godfrey On Aug 8, 2005, at 10:21 AM, Cotty wrote: Nah. One of THESE: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060701zigview_lcd.asp Here's a user review: http://www.kickstartnews.com/reviews/hardware/

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I think it's a bit overpriced for what it is. Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Looks like a handy gizmo. I'm bookmarking Intro2020... :-) Godfrey On Aug 8, 2005, at 10:21 AM, Cotty wrote: Nah. One of THESE: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060701zigview_lcd.asp Here's a user review:

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Further searching brought up a number of other hot shoe mounted waist level finders that could possibly do the trick. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi The Zigview LCD that has been talked about in this thread might work, with a custom adapter. Godfrey On Aug 8, 2005,

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Toralf Lund
Cotty wrote: On 8/8/05, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: I've been wondering if there is there is any way I might be able to actually see what I'm doing if I want to shoot from the hip with one of my Pentax cameras. Are there any good options for this, besides getting an LX and a

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Toralf Lund
Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me you want a waist-level finder, plain and simple. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/focusing/viewfinders/FF-1.jpg Nah. One of THESE: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060701zigview_lcd.asp Yes, you are absolutely right.

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Toralf Lund
P. J. Alling wrote: I think it's a bit overpriced for what it is. Yep. You can get now get some very basic bs digicams for less, can't you? Perhaps if I glue one of those to the back of my MX-5n... Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Looks like a handy gizmo. I'm bookmarking Intro2020... :-)

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Toralf Lund
P. J. Alling wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Glen wrote: At 12:17 PM 8/8/2005, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me you want a waist-level finder, plain and simple. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/focusing/viewfinders/FF-1.jpg Nah. One of THESE:

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Toralf Lund
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Further searching brought up a number of other hot shoe mounted waist level finders that could possibly do the trick. Any good links? Trying to find info on this may serve as a perfect illustration of what's wrong with the common web search engines. I mean, if you

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Toralf Lund
Cotty wrote: On 8/8/05, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: I've been wondering if there is there is any way I might be able to actually see what I'm doing if I want to shoot from the hip with one of my Pentax cameras. Are there any good options for this, besides getting an LX and a

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 8, 2005, at 12:47 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: I think it's a bit overpriced for what it is. Yep. You can get now get some very basic bs digicams for less, can't you? What, you expect a *NEW* waist level finder for an LX would be much less than $200? A used one is listed at KEH for $140

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Vic Mortelmans
It is feasible, just look at what the box camera's had or some of the folding camera's... Not very bright, but it was a basic waist-level viewfinder. I've got a box camera that even has two: one for portrait and one for landscape shooting! Groeten, Vic Toralf Lund wrote: Mark Roberts

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/8/05, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: Yes, that's what I really want, but it won't just fit on any old camera, right? Unless you really bring out the tools... Has anyone tried that? I mean, modify other bodies so that the LX viewfinders will fit. Har!!! You speaka my lingo. But

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I read the review, it's a fairly low resolution device, I would expect a bit more for $219.09 (listed as £119.99). That's about what you could expect to pay for a refconverter, a device that requires a greater precision of manufacture. This is probably cobbled together from off the shelf

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 8, 2005, at 3:46 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I read the review, it's a fairly low resolution device, I would expect a bit more for $219.09 (listed as £119.99). That's about what you could expect to pay for a refconverter, a device that requires a greater precision of manufacture.

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I doubt it. I've been involved in manufacturing and packaging. These people put the cheapest parts they could into an extruded plastic shell. Costs relatively pennys to manufacture. The retail package and shipping are probably worth more. Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Aug 8, 2005, at 3:46

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Ok. Go make one and sell it for less. Godfrey On Aug 8, 2005, at 5:14 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I doubt it. I've been involved in manufacturing and packaging. These people put the cheapest parts they could into an extruded plastic shell. Costs relatively pennys to manufacture. The retail

Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Don't have the contacts any more. If I did I would. Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Ok. Go make one and sell it for less. Godfrey On Aug 8, 2005, at 5:14 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I doubt it. I've been involved in manufacturing and packaging. These people put the cheapest parts they could into

RE: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)?

2005-08-08 Thread Jens Bladt
-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Waist-level viewing on 35mm Pentaxes (besides the LX)? I think it's a bit overpriced for what it is. Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Looks like a handy gizmo. I'm bookmarking Intro2020... :-) Godfrey On Aug 8, 2005, at 10:21 AM, Cotty wrote: Nah. One of THESE: http