Re: Wide dynamic range in Andes mountains/Argentina (questions and PESO)

2007-12-11 Thread Boris Liberman
I hear you, Igor. Yes, indeed, since I got my *istD I shot no more than 10 films (in almost 3 years)... And indeed with digital some kind of HDR solution would be necessary. Well, I think I'd rather play with gray gradient filters 'cause I am very reluctant to do any serious post-processing.

Re: Wide dynamic range in Andes mountains/Argentina (questions and PESO)

2007-12-10 Thread Igor Roshchin
Boris, Yes, that's indeed an option. Although, I should admit, I haven't used the film camera since I got DS. It would not be a convenient option to have two bodies during a vacation trip where we tried to fly without checking in any luggage (except for the return trip, where we had to check in

Re: Wide dynamic range in Andes mountains/Argentina (questions and PESO)

2007-12-10 Thread David Savage
My advise is to bracket exposure. I haven't as yet had much luck with HDR, so I just layer the bracketed shots and paint on masks for the bits I do, and don't, want. Cheers, Dave On Dec 10, 2007 5:14 PM, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boris, Yes, that's indeed an option. Although,

Re: Wide dynamic range in Andes mountains/Argentina (questions and PESO)

2007-12-10 Thread Doug Franklin
David Savage wrote: My advise is to bracket exposure. I haven't as yet had much luck with HDR, so I just layer the bracketed shots and paint on masks for the bits I do, and don't, want. Apparently I'm ignorant, because I thought that was the basic idea of HDR processing anyway. -- Thanks,

Re: Wide dynamic range in Andes mountains/Argentina (questions and PESO)

2007-12-10 Thread David Savage
On Dec 11, 2007 9:57 AM, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Savage wrote: My advise is to bracket exposure. I haven't as yet had much luck with HDR, so I just layer the bracketed shots and paint on masks for the bits I do, and don't, want. Apparently I'm ignorant, because I

Re: Wide dynamic range in Andes mountains/Argentina (questions and PESO)

2007-12-07 Thread Boris Liberman
Igor, I sincerely think that taking a film camera with good negative film along might help. Another option of course is to use gray gradient filters in order to lower the d.r. Boris Igor Roshchin wrote: Does anybody have any tips on how to best shoot such shots with or without HDR in mind?

Re: Wide dynamic range in Andes mountains/Argentina (questions and PESO)

2007-12-06 Thread Igor Roshchin
Yes, I shot them in RAW. What I've done in the shot quoted is essentially changing the response curve - compressing some regions and bringing up others. Do you think what you suggest would be much different? It is the same information that would be used, so the only difference would be that

Re: Wide dynamic range in Andes mountains/Argentina (questions and PESO)

2007-12-06 Thread P. J. Alling
The response curve will change similar tones everywhere. For example you want to darken the sky, but some of the foreground has a patch of something the same general brightness of the sky, you don't want to change that. Just changing the curve will effect both, in this hypothetical you need

Re: Wide dynamic range in Andes mountains/Argentina (questions and PESO)

2007-12-06 Thread Igor Roshchin
Sorry, I don't have any experience with how PS does the HDR, but I would naively assume that the same dilemma would be when you try to combine two (or whatever number) layers. Of course, masking a part of the photo would be the way out of it. Is this what you have in mind, or you are talking

Re: Wide dynamic range in Andes mountains/Argentina (questions and PESO)

2007-12-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually I use masking and layer transparency. But even if you're not using Photoshop whatever software you're using to combine the exposures is using layers of a sort. It's just easier than doing it by hand. I expect an expert using layers could do a better job, not that I could, but an

Wide dynamic range in Andes mountains/Argentina (questions and PESO)

2007-12-05 Thread Igor Roshchin
We had a very nice trip to the Andes in Argentina. The views were breathtaking. One of the challenges was the large dynamic range, especially in the afternoon, when shadows appeared. At one point I was trying to get the wild flowers in front, the mountains in the back, and the high-contrast

Re: Wide dynamic range in Andes mountains/Argentina (questions and PESO)

2007-12-05 Thread P. J. Alling
If you shot them in RAW you could convert them with different exposure compensation for each conversion then combine. That works rather well. Igor Roshchin wrote: We had a very nice trip to the Andes in Argentina. The views were breathtaking. One of the challenges was the large dynamic